Deontay Wilder and the state of the Heavyweight Division

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I think the WBC will realise it's made a mockery out of itself soon and start distancing itself from Wilder. As for Deontay. Well. You can drag up any pile of dung and wrap a strap around it and call it a champ. But don't be surprised or upset when it doesn't meet your expectations because it was never really a champ to begin with, it was ALWAYS a pile of dung! :lol1: :lol1: :lol1:

Wilder looked decent against Stiverne but on his last fight he looked bad sometimes. I mean he just didn't use circular movement especially when he was on his backfoot. If he doesn't moves around the ring but backing up with small jumps straight to the first corner/ropes he will be an easy target for Klitschko or even for Povetkin. This is very accurate. Wilder just didn't look like he was up for it, I can give him a pass for it, maybe but he has a lot to prove. Looking at heavyweights like Wlad, Fury, Povetkin or even novice AJ, Wilder looks like a poor prospect.

Not bad just like to point out a few things: There will never be Wlad-Povetkin 2. Simply due to the horrific political situation between Russia and Ukraine and the actors involved, all parties more or less acknowledge that this is an impossible fight to make. Wlad will need to fight Wilder to get the WBC. Plain and simple. Secondly, your assessment of Wilder's performance simply doesn't match the facts. The eye test may have failed you at this point. He actually landed triple the punches that Molina did and double the power shots. Total punches landed were 47% with 56% of power shots. He landed his punches at a higher rate than average HWs. He won every round but one according to the official scorecards. He actually outperformed GGG v Monroe yet Wilder is a hypejob bum while GGG is a wrecking machine with unstoppable power. And every single fighter in the division is more or less in Wilder's position. It's Wlad and everyone else. Wilder is not really special in this regard. Soon he will get his Wlad shot just like Pulev, Jennings, Povetkin, Haye etc, etc. If he even makes it a good fight he will surpass everyone else in the division outside of Wlad. He is going to be a factor in the division for awhile, and I see him contending for another 5-8 years pretty easily. Lastly Wilder-Stiverne did blockbuster ratings. So did Wlad-Jennings, a far less known fighter than Wilder. Wilder-Wlad is a blockbuster, no question about it.. Are you saying Wilder didn't look tentative? Are you saying he wasn't stuck in two minds? Hell yeah he looked tentative, even his corner was calling for him to go for it at one stage lol Finally, your idea of blockbuster ratings is based on an American model, not the huge ratings fights do in Europe, a million views would be laughed at here. In fact, when Amir Khan fought, in the early hours of the morning on ITV a couple years back, he did some 6 million views.

Wilder looked decent against Stiverne but on his last fight he looked bad sometimes. I mean he just didn't use circular movement especially when he was on his backfoot. If he doesn't moves around the ring but backing up with small jumps straight to the first corner/ropes he will be an easy target for Klitschko or even for Povetkin.

I think the WBC will realise it's made a mockery out of itself soon and start distancing itself from Wilder. As for Deontay. Well. You can drag up any pile of dung and wrap a strap around it and call it a champ. But don't be surprised or upset when it doesn't meet your expectations because it was never really a champ to begin with, it was ALWAYS a pile of dung!

Molina has hardest uppercut of all time, Wilder took it like a champ and walked through him in a dominating performance.

That's not true, but in a way I guess it is impossible simply because both parties probably won't agree. Wlad has said a couple of times, even Vitali I think has said on his behalf as well, that if Povetkin wants a rematch he needs to get himself in that position where he's top contender, AND the fight has to be made in Kiev. First one was in Moscow, so this time it will be in Kiev if it happens. If anyone will stop it from happening, it will be Povetkin's team IMO. And I can tell you it would be a day of celebration and partying for all Ukrainians if they saw Povetkin KTFO on their own soil...they still have been going on about the first fight result as a way to tease Russians. I just don't see Povetkin taking the risk of going to Kiev and getting embarrassed there. The Moscow fight was bad enough. That's what I'm saying, impossible fight to make..

Not bad just like to point out a few things: There will never be Wlad-Povetkin 2. Simply due to the horrific political situation between Russia and Ukraine and the actors involved, all parties more or less acknowledge that this is an impossible fight to make. Wlad will need to fight Wilder to get the WBC. Plain and simple. Secondly, your assessment of Wilder's performance simply doesn't match the facts. The eye test may have failed you at this point. He actually landed triple the punches that Molina did and double the power shots. Total punches landed were 47% with 56% of power shots. He landed his punches at a higher rate than average HWs. He won every round but one according to the official scorecards. He actually outperformed GGG v Monroe yet Wilder is a hypejob bum while GGG is a wrecking machine with unstoppable power. And every single fighter in the division is more or less in Wilder's position. It's Wlad and everyone else. Wilder is not really special in this regard. Soon he will get his Wlad shot just like Pulev, Jennings, Povetkin, etc, etc. If he even makes it a good fight he will surpass everyone else in the division outside of Wlad. He is going to be a factor in the division for awhile, and I see him contending for another 5-8 years pretty easily... That's not true, but in a way I guess it is impossible simply because both parties probably won't agree. Wlad has said a couple of times, even Vitali I think has said on his behalf as well, that if Povetkin wants a rematch he needs to get himself in that position where he's top contender, AND the fight has to be made in Kiev. First one was in Moscow, so this time it will be in Kiev if it happens. If anyone will stop it from happening, it will be Povetkin's team IMO. And I can tell you it would be a day of celebration and partying for all Ukrainians if they saw Povetkin KTFO on their own soil...they still have been going on about the first fight result as a way to tease Russians. Elroy, regarding what you picked up on about the worth of the WBC title, i'm assuming and I hope Soul Survivor means that that belt is currently worthless in the grand scheme of things as everyone knows Wlad is the 'champ' and the WBC is currently a paper title.

Deontay Wilder is America's first world heavyweight titlist since Shannon Briggs staked a small and short lived claim to the heavyweight title in 2006. The WBC belt which Wilder, fondly labeled the "Brozne Bomber", holds is little more than the last pizza slice, as Wladimir Klitschko sits atop his throne, the legitimate heavyweight champion of the world. The general consensus is that the giant Ukrainian can swoop in for the only title that has eluded him, whenever and wherever he feels like. That is not to say Wilder is a bad fighter. As America's last Olympic medalist and now their first heavyweight title holder in some 9 years, Wilder has a claim to fame. Some may say he has made history. This past weekend, in his home state of Alabama, Wilder made history yet again, hosting the first world title fight in the states long, darkened history. His opponent was Eric Molina, whose only previous flirtation with the so called elite of the division had come in 2012, against Chris Arreola. In his own little way, Molina too was trying to make history in becoming the first latin heavyweight titlist. The fight unfolded with little or no interest from the mass sport media, this was a long way away from the heyday of the heavyweight division or even the publicity that a Klitschko fight heralds. For all the history at stake, this was a quiet sporting event which begs the question: if history was made and there was no one there to witness it, would history really have been made? Wilder did his best in trying to build the bout, he hollered and danced and screeched his way through press conferences and TV appearances. For all his lack of world class experience in the ring, Wilder seems to be a charming and charismatic presence outside of it. It seems he requires the right vessel, a big fight, some controversy, anything to send him on his merry way as a boxing "superstar". In terms of the fight itself, can anyone in sport be blamed for turning a blind eye? Molina was a huge underdog without a single good win on his record. Yes he could hit hard but Wilder hit harder. Molina, the quiet teacher from Texas was supposed to lose and lose quick. In the third round, he almost changed all that, with a sharp left hook that buckled Wilder's knees. Molina threw a few more punches and then backed away, a lack of determination or stamina? We'll never know. From then on, it was business as usual, with the Bronze Bomber dropping Molina 4 times en route to an uninspiring 9th round stoppage. It is difficult to imagine a stoppage victory which was so ordinary and so poor. Wilder looked so nervous, so tentative, unwilling or not knowing how to press home the advantage against a weak but defensive foe. His punches were wild and he missed, a lot. I'm sure the Alabama natives in the arena loved it and from the reception they made for their son, it was obvious they still loved him. The problem is, Wilder was quiet in a division which needs noise. Wladimir Klitschko has held a belt in the heavyweight division for almost a decade now. His cabinet consists of almost the entire English alphabet, apart from the WBC. It's a belt which was once regarded as the most prestigious in all boxing, maybe in all sport. Things have changed now. Wilder is viewed as a bench warmer, a crude puncher who is there for the taking. Many label contenders such as Tyson Fury and Alexander Povetkin as better fighters than Wilder. What is the younger Klitschko waiting for? The answer may lay in a number of problems. Promotional and network issues, which have dampened boxing as a whole in the United States. There may be other reasons too, Britain's Tyson Fury is a more lucrative and better placed opponent, a rematch with Povetkin would probably sell out all across Europe. Can Wilder boast those claims? He is an unknown quantity in the country for which he fights. He has not been able to make noise at a time when he required it. His team is probably looking at a long string of opponents rather than legitimate contenders. Povetkin is mooted as the mandatory challenger but surely he would turn that down for a rematch with Wladimir? So, Deontay Wilder, loud and charismatic but unheard and unseen. Deontay Wilder hard hitting but rarely connecting. Deontay Wilder, holder of the WBC title at a time when it means next to nothing. It is a sure sign of lack of depth withing a division when a fighter, who is still prospect like in many ways, is a "champion". What's even more disheartening is that there are only 2 or 3 other top heavyweights who could beat him. The Great American Hope may be hopeless but then again, he could prove me and those like me wrong. I hope he does, the division needs it but if he carries on like he did on the weekend, unable or unwilling to grab the brass ring, then we can look forward to a few more years of skilled but characterless European domination. It's the cycle of life, the food chain. Not bad just like to point out a few things: There will never be Wlad-Povetkin 2. Simply due to the horrific political situation between Russia and Ukraine and the actors involved, all parties more or less acknowledge that this is an impossible fight to make. Wlad will need to fight Wilder to get the WBC. Plain and simple. Secondly, your assessment of Wilder's performance simply doesn't match the facts. The eye test may have failed you at this point. He actually landed triple the punches that Molina did and double the power shots. Total punches landed were 47% with 56% of power shots. He landed his punches at a higher rate than average HWs. He won every round but one according to the official scorecards. He actually outperformed GGG v Monroe yet Wilder is a hypejob bum while GGG is a wrecking machine with unstoppable power. And every single fighter in the division is more or less in Wilder's position. It's Wlad and everyone else. Wilder is not really special in this regard. Soon he will get his Wlad shot just like Pulev, Jennings, Povetkin, Haye etc, etc. If he even makes it a good fight he will surpass everyone else in the division outside of Wlad. He is going to be a factor in the division for awhile, and I see him contending for another 5-8 years pretty easily. Lastly Wilder-Stiverne did blockbuster ratings. So did Wlad-Jennings, a far less known fighter than Wilder. Wilder-Wlad is a blockbuster, no question about it..

Your article started off alright but I knew there was going to be an agenda.. And there was! Look the WBC belt only means nothing NOW because the WBC itself allowed Wilder to duck. And because it orchestrated Americans only to challenge for it in the first place. The WBC is purposely TRYING to GIVE America a go, to the disgust of myself and all others worldwide and here you are making comments that it means next to nothing!? Now the REASON for your upsetting thoughts about Wilder follow on from that also, that Wilder should never have fought for the title in the first place against Stiverne, who should have LOST the title fight to Wlad and not won it from Arreola in the first place! If Wilder wanted to challenge for a title, he should have challenged WLAD for it! So there you have it, you created your own paper champ to gloat and the WBC made a paper belt out of itself for your American satisfaction only to have it backfire now also! Pathetic! Absolutely pathetic! There is currently a Western zone HW division and a Global zone HW division, until you get your cowardly, ridiculous asses back into real competition. You have 3 fighters, Arreola, Thompson and Jennings, who are better than bloody Wilder anyway in your own country! I suggest you drop that sack of crap and start investing in your real chances.

I don't find the guy charming. I find him stupid and loud. He promised to fight the best but fought another hand picked nobody who had no business fighting for the heavyweight title. Wilder has defeated only one top 10 heavyweight and all his other opponents were ranked 30th or lower by boxrec. He needed 10 rounds to KO Molina who would have been KOed in a round or two by Wlad or Fury. I don't think Wilder is the best heavyweight in the USA or the world. BOMB SQUAD!!!!!!!!