Regarding Catch-weights & Drained Fighters

As if fighters don't drain wait to make the division limits. This only happens at catchweights?

funny cotto said no to manny at 150, but initially demanded his rematch with margarito at 150 too :lol1: and manny had never fought above 150.You noticed that too. Cotto really knows how to use the catch weight. He turns down a fight with little Pacquiao at 150 insisting on 154. Then he tries to get the larger Margarito to fight him at the same 150 he refused to fight Pacquiao at. Cotto is the undisputed catch weight king.

The guy being brought down in weight can win if he knows his own body and doesn't try and make too low of weight. I think Porter will still beat Broner even at 3 pounds below the weight he usually fights at. Hopkins was made to come down to 158 from his usual 160 to fight De La Hoya. He came in even lighter at 156 and still won by KO. Paul Williams would not fight Martinez for Martinez's middleweight title unless Martinez agreed to come in at 157 or less. Martinez made weight and KOed Williams in round one. There are lots of examples of fighters being made to come in below their regular fighting weight and winning just as there are times when coming below their regular weight just ruins them as in Ward vs Dawson.

Just like cotto said to manny right?? and then manny refused the fight funny cotto said no to manny at 150, but initially demanded his rematch with margarito at 150 too :lol1: and manny had never fought above 150.

Is that why Canelo said a rematch with Floyd will be at no catch weights but I can see why a guy with an IQ of 60 wouldn't understand Just like cotto said to manny right?? and then manny refused the fight

Catch weights are gay! Especially if a boxer uses it to have an advantage. Yep like Oscar

Funny how everyone including FloydTurds think the drain fighter is the one getting phucked and weakened except when Canelo fought Floyd I bet Floyd would never fight him at 154. Cannel would steam roll his a$$ thats why they fought so hard to have a catch weight. But Of course you will have idiots that will say it wouldn't matter if it didn't matter than why make the fight at 152 ? Cotto beats manny at 147 and Margarito destroys manny at 154 right

yet canelo is still fight at catchweights But not at 152. He is fighting non title fights at contracted weights. Big difference.

Is that why Canelo said a rematch with Floyd will be at no catch weights but I can see why a guy with an IQ of 60 wouldn't understand yet canelo is still fight at catchweights

Catch weights are gay! Especially if a boxer uses it to have an advantage.

you saw the fight with your own eyes. canelo wasn't weight drained he was flat footed and easy too hit. just as he was against lara, so stop it bro. it is possible too talk boxing without mentioning Floyd mayweather jr. you do know that right? you can tell when a fighter is weight drained, he can barely muster up enough energy too throw a punch. de la hoya vs pacquiao dawson vs ward these are examples of what weight drained fighters look like. canelo was far from the zombie's that were Oscar and dawson and you know that Is that why Canelo said a rematch with Floyd will be at no catch weights but I can see why a guy with an IQ of 60 wouldn't understand

Funny how everyone including FloydTurds think the drain fighter is the one getting phucked and weakened except when Canelo fought Floyd I bet Floyd would never fight him at 154. Cannel would steam roll his a$$ thats why they fought so hard to have a catch weight. But Of course you will have idiots that will say it wouldn't matter if it didn't matter than why make the fight at 152 ? you saw the fight with your own eyes. canelo wasn't weight drained he was flat footed and easy too hit. just as he was against lara, so stop it bro. it is possible too talk boxing without mentioning Floyd mayweather jr. you do know that right? you can tell when a fighter is weight drained, he can barely muster up enough energy too throw a punch. de la hoya vs pacquiao dawson vs ward these are examples of what weight drained fighters look like. canelo was far from the zombie's that were Oscar and dawson and you know that

There is a simple solution to the problem, Weight limits should be respected, and fighters should have to drink a predetermined amount of fluids x amount of hours before the weighin, and have a doctor certify that they are properly hydrated. The catch weights, and dehydrating to squeeze down to 3 divisions below where you will be in the ring is getting more and more ridiculous. Fighter would be forced to actually lose real weight to fight in lower divisions, or god forbid, fight in their actual division, and we would get to see two fighters of the same weight fighting each other. Everyone weighting in at the absolute max limit of the division these days is dumb. Back in the days, middleweights, weighed in between 147 and 160lb, in the ring before the fight, and you knew thats what they weighed during the fight. Good post. I think it's also time to readjust weights for each division. We have the same weight classes as 100 years ago despite the growth in average size of a human being. Olympics have adjusted weights for combat sports, Olympic boxing has had 2 or 3 changes in weight limits.

There is a simple solution to the problem, Weight limits should be respected, and fighters should have to drink a predetermined amount of fluids x amount of hours before the weighin, and have a doctor certify that they are properly hydrated. The catch weights, and dehydrating to squeeze down to 3 divisions below where you will be in the ring is getting more and more ridiculous. Fighter would be forced to actually lose real weight to fight in lower divisions, or god forbid, fight in their actual division, and we would get to see two fighters of the same weight fighting each other. Everyone weighting in at the absolute max limit of the division these days is dumb. Back in the days, middleweights, weighed in between 147 and 160lb, in the ring before the fight, and you knew thats what they weighed during the fight.

Regarding catch-weights, have the results of bringing a guy down in weight ever been positive for the "drained" fighter. This is to say, has the guy being brought down in weight ever won? Was just thinking about this and I can't think of any example of this in the past couple of years. Funny how everyone including FloydTurds think the drain fighter is the one getting phucked and weakened except when Canelo fought Floyd I bet Floyd would never fight him at 154. Cannel would steam roll his a$$ thats why they fought so hard to have a catch weight. But Of course you will have idiots that will say it wouldn't matter if it didn't matter than why make the fight at 152 ?

The fighter being drained is always the B side and therefore usually the underdog so you can't put it down to weight necessarily but guys do seem to under perform which you would expect.

B-hop against Pavlik/ODH

Been wondering that myself. Closest I can think of is Chavez and Fonfara but not many people were giving Chavez a chance anyway so I don't know if that counts. That fight was more about Chavez finally fighting someone his own size vs Fonfara being weight drained. Yes, this is a good one. Chavez bit off more then he could chew, poetic justice. Trying to drain the guy, but it backfired.

Wasn't Pac-Marquez IV at a catchweight? Or was that fight #3? Something along those lines. Wanna say Pacquiao camp was really trying to milk the notion that Marquez didn't belong at Welter. But, I wouldn't really consider that example, since neither guy was really drained, as a result, and are not really welters to begin.

Been wondering that myself. Closest I can think of is Chavez and Fonfara but not many people were giving Chavez a chance anyway so I don't know if that counts. That fight was more about Chavez finally fighting someone his own size vs Fonfara being weight drained.