I think cotto hits harder. Canelo unloads on guys like Angulo and can't put them down, cotto hurts guys with single shots.
This is 100% correct. In his last 3 fights Cotto has done just that, badly hurting guys BIGGER than him with one shot.
Cotto's defense was top notch last night....he had too much Crisco for Geale lol
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Cotto's footwork and overall ring IQ is above and beyond than Canelo's. Also, Cotto's ability to set-up his punches, flowing in and out the pocket and his new ability to attack utilizing angles and his improved right hand.....will be trouble to Canelo's game plan.
Cotto by stoppage <10 rounds.
Canelo would kill Geale too.
On the flipside,how fast would Cotto have had Kirkland out of there?
Manny was able to hurt Cotto, so I think he would be in trouble.
Cotto's brother Jose was able to rock and hurt Canelo.
Canelo still wins, Canelo would kill Geale too. Cotto is a good fighter but his last couple of opponents aren't exactly a murderer's row (Delvin Rodriguez, injured, ring rusted, old, small middleweight Sergio Martinez and weight drained Geale who GGG broke down for Cotto just like Pac did Margachetto). He would be better to fight Floyd, more money and no chance of being KO'd. Canelo and GGG will mop the floor with Cotto, too big and their chins will hold up. Manny was able to hurt Cotto, so I think he would be in trouble.
Great fight, logic just has to make me pick Canelo. Cotto has some serious miles on the clock and Canelo is young and fresh while still having some experience under his belt now. So he should come through and stop Cotto provided he can take what Cotto dishes out.
However the variable in all this is the extreme likelihood that Cotto is roided to the gills. So with his new found one punch power at 160 (lol ) he may be too savvy for Canelo if he can land.
Im a Cotto fan but my guts telling me he is roided. He's had some hard fights, he's 35, and he's a 5''7 former 147lber fighting at 160. Dropping a 175lb guy like a bad habit. Just makes no sense to me.
Cotto is as clean as Floyd, I'm assuming you think he's on steroids too? I mean he used USADA or are we now saying Cotto has a big enough payroll to keep dirty tests underwraps as well?
Ok we have to take a look at the adavantages for either guy
Power - About even but if i have to give the edge I give it to Cotto.
Speed - Another one where they are close but Cotto doesnt telegraph his punches so they are harder to see. so advantage Cotto but not by much.
Defense - Clear adavantage to Cotto.
Footwork - Clear Advantage to Cotto. we all know Canelo fights like he is getting sucked to the ground and has blocks of cements as shoes.
Stamina - Advantage Cotto.
Ring generalship - Advantage Cotto.
Tecnical ability - Advantage Cotto.
Experience - Advanatage Cotto.
Wear and Tear - Advantage Canelo. He is the younger fresher guy.
I think this is a clear win for Cotto unlless he gets caught with something huge that takes his legs out of it. But if he boxes Canelo and circle him moving away from canelos left hook and countering with the jab every time Canelo shoots his right he should have a fearly easy night out boxing him.
Gtfo of my thread.
Idiot.
Ok we have to take a look at the adavantages for either guy
Power - About even but if i have to give the edge I give it to Cotto.
Speed - Another one where they are close but Cotto doesnt telegraph his punches so they are harder to see. so advantage Cotto but not by much.
Defense - Clear adavantage to Cotto.
Footwork - Clear Advantage to Cotto. we all know Canelo fights like he is getting sucked to the ground and has blocks of cements as shoes.
Stamina - Advantage Cotto.
Ring generalship - Advantage Cotto.
Tecnical ability - Advantage Cotto.
Experience - Advanatage Cotto.
Wear and Tear - Advantage Canelo. He is the younger fresher guy.
I think this is a clear win for Cotto unlless he gets caught with something huge that takes his legs out of it. But if he boxes Canelo and circle him moving away from canelos left hook and countering with the jab every time Canelo shoots his right he should have a fearly easy night out boxing him.
IMO, cotto is a more skilled boxer, and will win by 1-3 rounds. He has enough power to make canelo hesitant/respect his power, and enough skill to box circles around him.
I agree 100:boxing:
I think this might be more competetive than I originally thought.
Thoughts?
I think that once Canelo unloads that first combo on Cotto, he will be on his bike. Don't get me wrong, Cotto should make it competitive through the first 3 rounds but he will take damage early and be hurt by the 4th round. Canelo stops him around the 8th round after massive swelling to the face, Cotto's corner stops the action.
Why? Cotto is still a level or two above Canelo and that still holds true now. You had this fight right all along Beer. Cotto by clear UD with a KD in there.
Me too. Cotto reminded me last night about how slippery he can be at times. I think it's going to be a little harder than I initially thought for Canelo to connect flush the way Cotto keeps his chin tucked and his hands up.
However, we have to remember. He had Daniel Geale in front if him last night. Daniel Geale is the epitome of average while Cotto has proven he's atleast two levels above Geale.
Cotto's defense was top notch last night....he had too much Crisco for Geale lol
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bolded is debatable my dude!!
ginger got handspeed but dudes feet is stuck in superglue!!
also I think they defense equal!!!!!
just wanna see the namby pambys get it on!! two divas need to shut up and fight!!!
back in my day all that talking was done with fists, they just wanted to get it on!!
The fact that you think Canelo has better defense, which is sitting in the ropes longer than Cotto ever did, your opinion doesn't really matter.
Cotto has faster hands, faster feet, better defense, better footwork, more experience, better on the inside, better on the outside, better in the pocket.
Stamina is even but I actually think Cotto might have the edge in that too. I'd say they are even in power as well, and given that Cotto is KO'ing MW's, drained or not, I'm inclined to think he might have more but I'd call it even.
The only thing I'd say Canelo does better than Cotto is... really nothing. He has a better chin but when it comes to boxing and what to do in the ring. Cotto literally has every advantage. It's a 9-3 type schooling or possible Cotto KO. The Canelo hype is out of control around here, he's still the same guy because he has the same corner. He lose to any A level and elite fighters with them in the corner.
I think cotto hits harder. Canelo unloads on guys like Angulo and can't put them down, cotto hurts guys with single shots.
Cotto has faster hands, faster feet, better defense, better footwork, more experience, better on the inside, better on the outside, better in the pocket.
Stamina is even but I actually think Cotto might have the edge in that too. I'd say they are even in power as well, and given that Cotto is KO'ing MW's, drained or not, I'm inclined to think he might have more but I'd call it even.
The only thing I'd say Canelo does better than Cotto is... really nothing. He has a better chin but when it comes to boxing and what to do in the ring. Cotto literally has every advantage. It's a 9-3 type schooling or possible Cotto KO. The Canelo hype is out of control around here, he's still the same guy because he has the same corner. He lose to any A level and elite fighters with them in the corner.
bolded is debatable my dude!!
ginger got handspeed but dudes feet is stuck in superglue!!
also I think they defense equal!!!!!
just wanna see the namby pambys get it on!! two divas need to shut up and fight!!!
back in my day all that talking was done with fists, they just wanted to get it on!!
Cotto has faster hands, faster feet, better defense, better footwork, more experience, better on the inside, better on the outside, better in the pocket.
Stamina is even but I actually think Cotto might have the edge in that too. I'd say they are even in power as well, and given that Cotto is KO'ing MW's, drained or not, I'm inclined to think he might have more but I'd call it even.
The only thing I'd say Canelo does better than Cotto is... really nothing. He has a better chin but when it comes to boxing and what to do in the ring. Cotto literally has every advantage. It's a 9-3 type schooling or possible Cotto KO. The Canelo hype is out of control around here, he's still the same guy because he has the same corner. He lose to any A level and elite fighters with them in the corner.