Cotto needs to be on the p4p list

My list based on my fairly complicated system which mainly based on current resume right now (who are inactive for a year automatically out). 1. Floyd Mayweather 2. Manny Pacquiao 3. Wladimir Klitschko 4. Guillermo Rigondeaux 5. Roman Gonzalez 6. Sergey Kovalev 7. Timothy Bradley 8. Canelo Alvarez 9. James Degale 10. Terence Crawford I know some would argue the last three. In my book (as on the official cards) Canelo beat both Lara and Trout. Not easily but he actually beat them and that's the more important factor right now. Before the Degale-Dirrell fight I thought I won't put either of them after a win to my list but considering the fact that in my book Dirrell was unbeaten and one of the top guys in a stacked weight class, Degale's win over him put him on my list. As for Crawford. Some would argue it that if Crawford is on it why Golovkin isn't. Simply because I think Crawford's win over Gamboa is a big win even if he had the size advantage. I put him on it on the same way as I guess many people would put Golovkin on it if he would beat Cotto who is a size smaller than him. Right? If Froch and Ward will be active again and both of them will have a W then I will put them back. Honorable mentions (who are in 11-19 spots in not exactly this order): Cotto, Estrada, Golovkin, Thurman, Brook, Danny Garcia, Lamont Peterson, Matthysse, Stevenson.

How did GGG even get on the list then? He should'nt be on the p4p list imo. He needs a signature win.

Beyond the top 4 or 5, there are no sure names. Cotto absolutely has his case.

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And I really dislike Cotto!

If Miguel beats a top level opponent he'll be back on lists. Until then, nah. Sorry what are Froch's best wins in the last 2 years?!

If Miguel beats a top level opponent he'll be back on lists. Until then, nah. How did GGG even get on the list then?

I have him a couple places behind Austin Trout. C'mon. He should'nt be any more than one spot behind Trout lol.

If GGG is on there for beating Geale and Murray, Cotto should be on there just off of beating Geale and Martinez. Sorry, Cotto doesn't get to look more dominant than Murray (while 20 pounds smaller) and not get credit because Sergio had the same f*cked up knee. Sergio had two more knee surgeries after the Murray fight.

If GGG is on there for beating Geale and Murray, Cotto should be on there just off of beating Geale and Martinez. Sorry, Cotto doesn't get to look more dominant than Murray (while 20 pounds smaller) and not get credit because Sergio had the same f*cked up knee.

I have him a couple places behind Austin Trout.

so? MW is "****ty." cotto just defeated a sh#tty opponent. he beat a sh#tty opponent for the belt, considering that martinez is retiring, and literally has trouble walking. prior to that he beat delvin freaking rodriguez, a club fighter, and lost decisively to austin trout. wladimir is extremely effective. why fight inside when you've got a bad chin, a phone pole jab, and you're strong enough to hold virtually any man on the planet with boxing gloves on? boxing is about fighting to your strengths, and limiting your opponent's strengths. the p4p list isn't a measure of how well rounded you are. it's a measurement of your effectiveness in an abstract evaluation of boxers without considering size. Who is GGG best win..... :bottle: Who was the Linear, Ring and WBC Champ... :bottle: #WarCotto resume @ 160 > GGG resume...

No but he is certainly better than Froch P4P.

For fighting. Bums lol

. . I just realized that you two aren't the same posters. I always mixed up you too and I blended you together. I guess it's because the similar styled username and both of your username starts with an "R". And of course both of you have Golovkin in avi.

so? MW is "****ty." cotto just defeated a sh#tty opponent. he beat a sh#tty opponent for the belt, considering that martinez is retiring, and literally has trouble walking. prior to that he beat delvin freaking rodriguez, a club fighter, and lost decisively to austin trout. wladimir is extremely effective. why fight inside when you've got a bad chin, a phone pole jab, and you're strong enough to hold virtually any man on the planet with boxing gloves on? boxing is about fighting to your strengths, and limiting your opponent's strengths. the p4p list isn't a measure of how well rounded you are. it's a measurement of your effectiveness in an abstract evaluation of boxers without considering size. Cotto has done it in 5 weight divisions against some of the best of the era. Most of Wlad's opponents are no better than Geale p4p. He doesn't have to learn how to fight on the inside because no one currently is good enough to force him to at the weight. Doesn't mean he should get off with that. Joshua already looks to have more layers to his game than Wladimir.

I like Wlad, but heavyweight division been so ****ty. He looks very limited in comparison, can only fight at one range too. so? MW is "****ty." cotto just defeated a sh#tty opponent. he beat a sh#tty opponent for the belt, considering that martinez is retiring, and literally has trouble walking. prior to that he beat delvin freaking rodriguez, a club fighter, and lost decisively to austin trout. wladimir is extremely effective. why fight inside when you've got a bad chin, a phone pole jab, and you're strong enough to hold virtually any man on the planet with boxing gloves on? boxing is about fighting to your strengths, and limiting your opponent's strengths. the p4p list isn't a measure of how well rounded you are. it's a measurement of your effectiveness in an abstract evaluation of boxers without considering size.

froch is arguable for sure. dude needed two fights to get a decisive victory over george groves. wladimir has dominated his opposition for the better part of a decade. I like Wlad, but heavyweight division been so ****ty. He looks very limited in comparison, can only fight at one range too.

the winner of cotto-canelo will surely find a place on most people's lists

Why isn't he on there already, wtf? Far more 'p4p skill' than the likes of Froch and Klitschko. froch is arguable for sure. dude needed two fights to get a decisive victory over george groves. wladimir has dominated his opposition for the better part of a decade.