Is the UK 'p4p' the best...

Boxing nation? Without fail the UK provides 2/3 great fighters every few years.. Most recently Froch & Khan, then Calzaghe & Hatton & prior to that Lewis & Naz etc not only that they consistently provide fighters right through out the weight classes (other great boxing nations like Mexico & Puerto Rico tend to produce great fighters but mainly in the smaller divisions) I don't think any other nation can lay claim to producing consistent quality throughout the divisions other than the states which dwarf's the UK in terms of size... Just look @ the current crop of UK fighters, aswell as current champions such as Frampton, Quigg, Brook, McDonnell, Selby & Degale (Froch & Khan not title holders currently) there are numerous prospects like Joshua, Smith, Saunders, Campbell & men about to get a shot at a title like Groves & Fury too! Even men who have just fallen short @ world level like Kevin Mitchell & Martin Murray gained huge respect (in terms of performance) doing so & both gave world class performances (in fact many thought Murray was stiffed out of the lineal MW title) & proved there metal! (No shame in losing to the best.. In terms of number of boxing champions per nation list I'm sure the UK is right up there! It must be close to 70 or so.. Mexico & Japan may have slightly more I'm not sure. What say you?

Comments (17)

1g5a22

Good responses so far, cheers. In regards to Cuba, yes they do produce great talent & currently may have some champions but this thread was meant historically as well as present. If Cuba had produced pro talent on the scale they produced amateur talent historically then maybe they could have been heads above in terms of p4p (Russia would be right up there too!) But they didn't hence that is pure speculation. Not all great amateur talent go onto be great pro's though! At the minute the very best Cubans are turning pro, Rigo, Solis, Lara etc but many have faltered too.. I think the UK is at least going to get one other champion in the coming months too in Groves! I'd also favour Saunders over MW champion Lee too if that fight comes off! But yeah Cuba right now probably have more champions per population total than the UK but historically the UK trumps them in the pro ranks.

11y ago

fastjabs2015

UK is not a small country - 65 million people is a lot. The UK does produce world class fighters with some regularity and that's really great for the sport.

11y ago

Tom_Cruise

Cuba: 4,5 champions (idk if Lara's regular count or not), 5,5 big belts (with Rigo has two) with only 44 pro boxers. That's TIGHT. Cuba is tricky because the fighters that go pro are the absolute best they have. They have to be to generate enough interest for someone to risk smuggling them out ofCuba (at personal cost) andgetting their pro career started. The UK is a good boxing nation. Our Amateur system is much better than it was 10-15 years ago and hopefully it will continue to bear fruit.

11y ago

HEND

Cuba: 4,5 champions (idk if Lara's regular count or not), 5,5 big belts (with Rigo has two) with only 44 pro boxers. That's TIGHT.

11y ago

HEND

I think you're looking at p4p? I changed p4p to heavyweight and worked down to minimumweight tallying the numbers all up. Ohh, so you tallied up. Yes I looked at P4P, I thought they don't cut the list at 100.

11y ago

dan_cov

For me it counts till 100 and after that no more. USA, Russia, etc are the same... I think you're looking at p4p? I changed p4p to heavyweight and worked down to minimumweight tallying the numbers all up.

11y ago

HEND

The UK has 892 active boxers if my calculations are correct. For me it counts till 100 and after that no more. USA, Russia, etc are the same...

11y ago

RED_REP

Two men striking each other with only their bare hands in competition can be traced back to Ancient Greece and the Olympics of BC688 but Prizefighing as we know it (kind of) was largely happening in Great Britain from the 16th century through to the 18th century and it's here where you'll find the true foundations and originators of Boxing. Humans have being engaging in hand to hand combat since the dawn of time but boxing today certainly grew from the prizefighting that happened here in Britain over 200 years ago and with that in mind it doesn't surprise me that we are in the top tier of countries on the planet with great history of boxing. Pound for pound I'd say we are up there.

11y ago

RED_REP

11y ago

HEND

http://boxrec.com/ratings.php?country=UK&sex=m&division=all&status=A&SUBMIT=Go&pageID=4 Go through every weight tallying up the totals. Oh I just see here that they don't count it over 100. Lames... Leave it then OP...

11y ago

dan_cov

The UK has 892 active boxers if my calculations are correct.

11y ago

dan_cov

So do u know where I can find the list of: 'Number of pro boxers per nation'?! http://boxrec.com/ratings.php?country=UK&sex=m&division=all&status=A&SUBMIT=Go&pageID=4 Go through every weight tallying up the totals.

11y ago

HEND

So do u know where I can find the list of: 'Number of pro boxers per nation'?! Boxrec is the closest thing you've got for a list like that. I think. Maybe it's not very precise but it gives you datas you can count with.

11y ago

Dirk_Diggler_UK

puerto rico, i think. and you also have cuba, ireland and, if we split the uk into smaller chunks, wales seems to do disproportionately well don't forget that while the uk may be small in size, it is one of the most populous european nations. the uk has 65m people while puerto rico only has like 4m How big is boxing in Puerto Rico and what other world sports do they excel at?

11y ago

1g5a22

I think it's more sensible to count by "chapions/number of professional boxers". In that relation I think Cuba is the P4P first but UK is probably in the top 3-5 as well. So do u know where I can find the list of: 'Number of pro boxers per nation'?!

11y ago

HEND

I think it's more sensible to count by "chapions/number of professional boxers". In that relation I think Cuba is the P4P first but UK is probably in the top 3-5 as well.

11y ago

NEETzsche

11y ago