Would Chris Algieri beat Floyd Mayweather's Last 5 Opponents at 147, except Pacquaio?

He'd beat Guerrero and Ortiz. He could beat Mosley only because he's old but no way he does **** with a Mosley closer to his age. Maidana would make him look stupid like he did Broner. Marquez def takes him to school too. EDIT: Then again, given his physical condition as of late I might have to change my mind about that.

Tough to say. He can probably compete with Ortiz, Guerrero, and Maidana. I see a lot of people saying Ortiz but Ortiz was a different animal when he fought Floyd. He's a shell of that guy today. True, Ortiz was on a winning streak but a lot of people still questioned his heart after the Maidana fight. The fact that he's fought again several times after that broken jaw against Lopez I think it shows Ortiz actually does have heart to get back in the ring after that type of injury. And Algieri proved several times that he has tons of heart. Would have been an interesting match up and probably still would be a fun fight.

Algeri/Mariana 50/50???? FOH Alexander beat Maidana at 147 and Algieri did a little better against Khan than Alexander did. Styles make fights and Algieri might well outbox Maidana and win a decision or he might get caught with some big shots and fade. 50/50 IMO.

Goes to show you the general IQ of this site when several people vote "Pacquiao". Chris is too quick for Marcos, IMO. Guerrero would bully and drop him, no doubt. Marquez would be an excellent fight. Shane and Victor would have been competitive back then but not now. Pacquiao should beat Chris again based on styles but at the full 147 he might be more competitive than he was at the 144 catchweight. Based on the first fight it's easy to assume the rematch is a shut out though.

Goes to show you the general IQ of this site when several people vote "Pacquiao". Chris is too quick for Marcos, IMO. Guerrero would bully and drop him, no doubt. Marquez would be an excellent fight. Shane and Victor would have been competitive back then but not now.

This is bearing in mind the new & improved version of Algieri we saw against Khan against the EXACT VERSION of the opponents that Floyd fought, as if the fights had happened around the same time. Maidana - 50/50 fight Guerrero - Algieri wins fairly easy Victor Ortiz - Algieri Wins easy Shane Mosley (after 1.5 year inactivity/layoff) - 50/50 fight Juan Manuel Marquez - (first fight at 147 , jumped up 2 weight division from 135) - Algieri Wins against THAT VERSION of Marquez. So there we have it, the man who Khan recently beat, and who a few naysayers/trolls are slating at the moment, in reality would beat most of Floyd's recent opponents at 147 in my opinion. I'd even give Algieri a better shot against Pacquiao because at 147 he wasn't weight-drained like he was against Pacquiao (144) and Prov (140). I think Pac still wins but it would be a much closer fight. Anyway, which of those does Algieri beat in your view? Algeri/Mariana 50/50???? FOH

Maidana=not washed up=champion Ortiz=not washed up=champion Guerrero=not washed up was on the p4p list Mosley= champion-p4p#3 Pacquiao-not washed up,champion,p4p#2 Mosley and Pacquaio. A wash up 40 year old, a guy who was knock out and carefully matched afterwards, Guerrero is the blown up feather Ortiz was suckered punch. Madaina actually won but was robbed

This is bearing in mind the new & improved version of Algieri we saw against Khan against the EXACT VERSION of the opponents that Floyd fought, as if the fights had happened around the same time. Maidana - 50/50 fight Guerrero - Algieri wins fairly easy Victor Ortiz - Algieri Wins easy Shane Mosley (after 1.5 year inactivity/layoff) - 50/50 fight Juan Manuel Marquez - (first fight at 147 , jumped up 2 weight division from 135) - Algieri Wins against THAT VERSION of Marquez. So there we have it, the man who Khan recently beat, and who a few naysayers/trolls are slating at the moment, in reality would beat most of Floyd's recent opponents at 147 in my opinion. I'd even give Algieri a better shot against Pacquiao because at 147 he wasn't weight-drained like he was against Pacquiao (144) and Prov (140). I think Pac still wins but it would be a much closer fight. Anyway, which of those does Algieri beat in your view? I picked 48 but TBH I dont think Chris would beat any of them the night Floyd fought them. I mean, he just lost to Khan fair and square, it wasnt some type of Mauricio Herrera decision. Why should his stock rise to the level of beating FLoyds last 5 opponents when he just lost? Good question, but no.

This is bearing in mind the new & improved version of Algieri we saw against Khan against the EXACT VERSION of the opponents that Floyd fought, as if the fights had happened around the same time. Maidana - 50/50 fight Guerrero - Algieri wins fairly easy Victor Ortiz - Algieri Wins easy Shane Mosley (after 1.5 year inactivity/layoff) - 50/50 fight Juan Manuel Marquez - (first fight at 147 , jumped up 2 weight division from 135) - Algieri Wins against THAT VERSION of Marquez. So there we have it, the man who Khan recently beat, and who a few naysayers/trolls are slating at the moment, in reality would beat most of Floyd's recent opponents at 147 in my opinion. I'd even give Algieri a better shot against Pacquiao because at 147 he wasn't weight-drained like he was against Pacquiao (144) and Prov (140). I think Pac still wins but it would be a much closer fight. Anyway, which of those does Algieri beat in your view? http://media.giphy.com/media/2XskdWz9y363OIIeLPq/giphy.gif

Algieri would beat Ortiz and Ghost if he fought like he fought against Khan.

If that was the perspective you were coming from then I see what you're trying to do. At the same time you're engaging in a bit of hyperbole yourself by blatantly criticizing Floyd's opponents. You say the Maidana that fought Khan was superior to the Maidana that "arguably" beat Floyd in the first fight. Come on man. Maidana had a few moments in the fight against Floyd (just like every elite opponent Floyd faces), but he was far from being competitive with Floyd. Mosley rocked Floyd. Judah held his own with Floyd for the first five rounds of their fight. DeMarcus Corley hurt Floyd. Pac hurt Floyd. In the end none of those were truly competitive fights. Back to Marcos Maidana for a sec... you're going to tell me that the Maidana that fought Khan was better than the one that fought Floyd? How? Maidana has grown as a fighter ever since he hired Robert Garcia as his trainer. Garcia was not training him for the Khan fight. Algeri is no bum. He's a solid fighter with potential. He seems to get better every time we see him. Is he on Floyd's level tho? Can camels fly? You got your answer. I don't think Robert Garcia had much of an impact on Maidana, in my opinion that's mostly hype. I remember people claiming Maidana had been almost reinvented with a new skillset but if you watch just the very first round of the Khan fight you can see Maidana do all of those so-called "new" skills - like disguising a headshot as a bodyshot, using jab to work his way in, timing with counters etc.. I think the benefit Maidana had with Garcia is mainly one of motivation - Garcia provided Maidana motivation to train hard and prepare well but he had all the actual skills back when he fought Khan. To me, the difference is that by the time he fought Floyd, Maidana had already been in quite a few wars, taken quite a few hits so i'm assuming there was some level of deterioration in his overall physical state because he is that type of fighter that doesn't last long in boxing due to accumulated damage throughout the career due to his style. And when I said Maidana arguably beat Floyd, I personally thought Floyd won it clearly, what I mean is that others have argued that Maidana won and Maidana himself claimed he won.

Hard to say, as he could fight in a certain style against Khan that wouldn't work against other guys. Mosely for example...i don't rate that version that faced Floyd, but he carried power still. So Algieri wouldn't be able to walk him down like he tried against Khan. Guerrero has no quit in him, so that would be a competitive fight. I'd go with Algieri though. The version of JMM that faced Floyd was a bloated mess. He messed up big time in the manner in which he jumped up in the weight. He was an excellent fighter back then though, so i'd pick him to win. Maidana and Pacquiao would beat Algieri. I'd pick Algieri to beat Ortiz though. Every version of Ortiz had always been bang average.

Once Provodnikov landed that hook Algieri went down, Maidana is overall two levels higher than Provodnikov and actually has a jab and a bit of head movement and he can counter Algieri's jab all night, Maidana can stop Algieri. Guerrero will hold and hit behind the head and make it a dog fight and I don't know if Algieri can deal with that. Victor Ortiz only lost to guys with serious power and he quit cuz he couldn't handle the power and with Algieri power is nothing to worry about so I see it as a 50-50 fight, also note that Algieri's style sucks against southpaws because his lead right is weak and his left hook is terrible, also his foot movement is disastrous against southpaws. JMM beats him at any weight Mosley KOs him out after 2 year layoff without a shadow of a doubt. Canelo takes him out at 154.

Whoever wins Mayweather vs Khan is all good with me - I support both fighters. You think I hate Floyd , sure I criticize fighters even if I'm a fan but doesn't mean I "hate" Floyd - the man is a genius in the ring and I watched all his fights since the 2005 Gatti fight (and I was rooting for him to win in all of them apart from the Mosley fight). He did duck Khan at least 2 times though but sh*t happens. That post you quoted was to put things into context that people were severely underrating Algieri when you consider he does have the ability to beat a lot of Floyd's former opponents. So the point was that if you say Algieri is garbage, then you have to say Floyd's former opponents are garbage too and it's funny how all of a sudden people aren't so willing to do that now... lol If that was the perspective you were coming from then I see what you're trying to do. At the same time you're engaging in a bit of hyperbole yourself by blatantly criticizing Floyd's opponents. You say the Maidana that fought Khan was superior to the Maidana that "arguably" beat Floyd in the first fight. Come on man. Maidana had a few moments in the fight against Floyd (just like every elite opponent Floyd faces), but he was far from being competitive with Floyd. Mosley rocked Floyd. Judah held his own with Floyd for the first five rounds of their fight. DeMarcus Corley hurt Floyd. Pac hurt Floyd. In the end none of those were truly competitive fights. Back to Marcos Maidana for a sec... you're going to tell me that the Maidana that fought Khan was better than the one that fought Floyd? How? Maidana has grown as a fighter ever since he hired Robert Garcia as his trainer. Garcia was not training him for the Khan fight. Algeri is no bum. He's a solid fighter with potential. He seems to get better every time we see him. Is he on Floyd's level tho? Can camels fly? You got your answer.

He would beat small slow Guerrero, washed up Mosely, and have a 75% chance against Ortiz who in hindsight was pretty mediocre but thrust into the spotlight for his boyish smile (kinda like Algieri himself... Yes...) He would have a 25% chance against Maidana. He could beat him if he tired Maidana out early, survived it then outboxed him (the way Floyd beat Maidana, the way Algieri beat Provodnikov). His style just sucks vs even old washed up versions of Marquez and Pacquaio.

Floyd is not a big Welterweight himself. Plus he's not a knockout puncher. So exactly where did Floyd's "weight advantage" come in at? Floyd was an established Welterweight while Marquez had no experience at 147 whatsoever at the time, and he jumped up 2 weight divisions (from the Juan Diaz fight) to face Floyd. For any fighter to jump up 2 weight divisions and get in with one of the best fighters in that division, it's crazy without having a tune up fight first. For someone to do that and get in with Floyd Mayweather Jr - it's suicide, you might as well put a gun to your head. Marquez conditioning was garbage at the time too, if you remember he was doing that urine therapy (drinking his own urine) which is something he stopped doing soon after the Floyd fight. He improved his conditioning considerably after Floyd beat him.

A John David Jackson Uncaged Algieri beats all of these guys.

This is only reason you created this thread. To criticize Floyd. Chris Algeri barely beat Provodnokov. I seriously doubt Algeri beats Guererro much less "very easily". Just stop beating around the bush with agenda based-bait threads. Just come out and say I HATE FLOYD. It's really that simple. Whoever wins Mayweather vs Khan is all good with me - I support both fighters. You think I hate Floyd , sure I criticize fighters even if I'm a fan but doesn't mean I "hate" Floyd - the man is a genius in the ring and I watched all his fights since the 2005 Gatti fight (and I was rooting for him to win in all of them apart from the Mosley fight). He did duck Khan at least 2 times though but sh*t happens. That post you quoted was to put things into context that people were severely underrating Algieri when you consider he does have the ability to beat a lot of Floyd's former opponents. So the point was that if you say Algieri is garbage, then you have to say Floyd's former opponents are garbage too and it's funny how all of a sudden people aren't so willing to do that now... lol

The version of Marquez that Floyd fought had just jumped up 2 weight divisions from 135 to face the best fighter in the world at 147, without having any tune ups at the weight. Going into the fight like that was basically suicide. He was far removed from the version that Manny Pacquiao later got knocked out by after he had acclimatized to the weight division. Floyd is not a big Welterweight himself. Plus he's not a knockout puncher. So exactly where did Floyd's "weight advantage" come in at?

He might edge out Vic the tree, I think he could give Marquez a tough fight based on styles, the rest maul the hell out of him.