I should know this, I've been following boxing avidly for over ten years, but some things I don't pay attention to. Anyway, what is the rule or rules for weigh ins? For example if the weight limit is 160 lbs. and a fighter comes in at 160 lbs 1oz or 2 oz, etc.; is he over the limit? Is there an acceptable margin of weight over the limit that is allowed?
I know the rules , its just dumb to make the limit so strict forcing fighters to drain themselves sometimes to cut 2 pounds. Why not just make the limit 3 or 4 pounds over , its would still be not that big of a difference
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this is literally the dumbest shlt i've heard all year:ugh:
For non title fights they they can weigh in up to 1lb above the limit for that division, and no more, unless the contract states otherwise.
For title fights there is no leeway. Even 1oz over and they have 2 hrs to lose it or face a penalty.
I don't know that this is true. I've seen that on The Ultimate Fighter when I use to watch that stupid show, but other than that, I never see it. You can check fighter's weigh ins on boxrec. In significant fights, fighters do not weigh over the limit, title or no title. (By significant, I mean basically anything above C league or D league).
Thanks for all the helpful responses.
This is the core part of my question. If 160 or 175 or whatever is the upper limit, then a fighter cannot come in at anything over that weight? A gram? An ounce? 1/2 ounce? It seems very exact. Is there any acceptable margin over the upper limit?
You know how a scale works right?
The standard scale used in weigh ins doesn't measure micrograms.
It does measure ounces.
For non title fights they they can weigh in up to 1lb above the limit for that division, and no more, unless the contract states otherwise.
For title fights there is no leeway. Even 1oz over and they have 2 hrs to lose it or face a penalty.
Has this always been the case? The 1lb over in non title fights thing that is. In the past I was under the impression that you ALWAYS had to make weight. Couldn't be over whether it was a title fight or non title. The 1 lb rule thing reminds me of a UFC rule. until recent PBC fights (broner molina) I had no idea about the 1 lb over thing for boxing. Obviously if it's agreed upon in the contract it's fine but I remember guys always trying to make weight being ounces over. Maybe it was something I didn't pay attention to much in the past???
I know the rules , its just dumb to make the limit so strict forcing fighters to drain themselves sometimes to cut 2 pounds. Why not just make the limit 3 or 4 pounds over , its would still be not that big of a difference
lol how would pushing the limits 3 or 4 lbs north change anything? use your noggin mate
For non title fights they they can weigh in up to 1lb above the limit for that division, and no more, unless the contract states otherwise.
For title fights there is no leeway. Even 1oz over and they have 2 hrs to lose it or face a penalty.
I know the rules , its just dumb to make the limit so strict forcing fighters to drain themselves sometimes to cut 2 pounds. Why not just make the limit 3 or 4 pounds over , its would still be not that big of a difference
I thought you were kidding in your first comment, nope just retarded.
Why are they always so strict with weight. Whats the big deal if you come in 3 or 4 pounds over, dumb rule.
There's weight limits and classes for a reason; fighters should generally weigh about the same so that their both on an even playing field. Also, if commissions are not strict on making the contracted weight, then fighters would obviously come in at any weight that they're comfortable with.
Also, with weight divisions that are only incrementally only 7 pounds apart e.g. WW 147; Jr MW 154; every pound literally counts.
Do the WBA, WBO and IBF allow extra time if weight is failed the first time?
I mean there should always be additional time given since every scale has a margin of error.
You generally got two hours below are the IBF rules.
IBF - RULES.
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1.A.
The initial weigh-in shall be no less than twenty(20) no more than thirty (30) hours before the scheduled start of the first bout on the bout card. If either Champion or Challenger fails to make the prescribed weight at the initial weigh-in time, each will have two (2) hours thereafter to make the prescribed weight.
1.Champion’s Failure to Make Weight If a Champion shall fail to make the prescribed weight prior to the expiration of the two (2) additional hours, the title shall be forfeited on the scale.
http://www.ibfusbaregistration.com/ibfusba_02APR2014/downloads/Rules_Amended_Jan_27_2014.pdf
Do the WBA, WBO and IBF allow extra time if weight is failed the first time?
I mean there should always be additional time given since every scale has a margin of error.
Depends on the Sanctioning Bodies - these are the rules of the WBC - today Jorge Linares (WBC Lightweight Champion) missed weight by a few OZ's however according the the WBC rules he has two hours to cut.
if the fight is contractual at a specific weight (lets say 160) then the fighters can weigh in at 160 but not a oz more, anything above 160 they must lose or face the penalty (varies).
Sometime the contracts say +1, so basically the same thing about (160) but you are allowed to weigh in 1 pound over but this has to be stated in the contracts.
by default their is no +1 or any of that non sense, its a special clause that is written into the contracts (broner vs molina, broner was allowed +1 for his fight at 140)
This sounds right. Amazing that missing weight is a legit reason for canceling the bout but rarely does. Financial considerations are made to see the show still goes on.
However many a title has been lost at the scales.
Depends on the Sanctioning Bodies - these are the rules of the WBC - today Jorge Linares (WBC Lightweight Champion) missed weight by a few OZ's however according the the WBC rules he has two hours to cut.
WBC RULES.
4.14 Safety Weigh-Ins.
The final and official weigh-in of the boxers shall occur no less than 24
hours but not more than 30 hours prior to a WBC bout due to the possible adverse results of dehydration and subsequent rehydration of boxers to make the required weight limit for a bout. Further, in order to encourage safe weight loss in advance of a WBC bout, additional
official safety weigh-ins are to be held 30 and 7 days prior to the official 30-24-hour weigh-in for non-heavyweight boxers.
IBO - RULES.
2. Weight determines Championships, if either of the contestants (Champion or Challenger) fails to make the prescribed weight at the official weigh-in, they have two hours to re-weigh and make weight in the presence of the I.B.O. Commissioner and or the local Commission.
WBO RULES.
(c)Overweight Contestants.
(1) If a World Champion fails to make the prescribed weight for his category and the challenger makes weight, the Champion shall lose the title at the scales, and the Championship shall then and there be declared vacant. The Championship may not, however, be won at the scales. The fight shall be carried out as planned, and if the challenger, having made the weight, wins the contest, the challenger shall be the successor of the Championship; but if the prior Champion whose Championship was vacated at the scales wins the contest, the championship shall remain vacant.
(2) If the Champion makes the weight and the challenger fails to do so, the Champion, whether or not he loses the fight, shall retain the title.
(3) If both the Champion and the challenger fail to make weight, the Championship shall not be vacated at the scale and the fight will go forward as a non-title fight and the Champion, whether or not he loses the fight, shall retain the title.
Thanks for all the helpful responses.
This is the core part of my question. If 160 or 175 or whatever is the upper limit, then a fighter cannot come in at anything over that weight? A gram? An ounce? 1/2 ounce? It seems very exact. Is there any acceptable margin over the upper limit?
i guess they round up or down after a certain decimal place
Thanks for all the helpful responses.
160.0 lbs is the upper limit, so he can't come in a fraction above it. i don't think there is a lower limit, but if you can reach a lower upper limit you will generally opt to fight at that weight
This is the core part of my question. If 160 or 175 or whatever is the upper limit, then a fighter cannot come in at anything over that weight? A gram? An ounce? 1/2 ounce? It seems very exact. Is there any acceptable margin over the upper limit?
160.0 lbs is the upper limit, so he can't come in a fraction above it. i don't think there is a lower limit, but if you can reach a lower upper limit you will generally opt to fight at that weight
I should know this, I've been following boxing avidly for over ten years, but some things I don't pay attention to. Anyway, what is the rule or rules for weigh ins? For example if the weight limit is 160 lbs. and a fighter comes in at 160 lbs 1oz or 2 oz, etc.; is he over the limit? Is there an acceptable margin of weight over the limit that is allowed?
For title fights you have to be on limit not over at all, but when theres no title i think as long as its not over 1 pound then its acceptable to my knowledge (but catchweights have to be on limit also)