Anyways, I pick floyd in this. I like his defense better, especially vs whitaker, hes more prone to keeping himself always in a position to counter, whitaker is very flashy at slipping shots but doesnt set himself up as good as floyd for counters, against sloppy guys, it doesnt matter because he will get his in, with floyd in a chess match, its going to cost him in a lower output fight with more missed shots by both guys.
Also ditto on the dedication like others said, we know we will get a 100% floyd as always, whitaker is less reliable.
I beg to differ regarding your floyd comments. Floyd makes zero adjustments and figures nothing out. Everyone says as fight goes on floyd adjusts and begins to take fight over as it goes on. This is a falicy. It just appears that way. Re watch any Floyd fight. What always happens is opponents tire and Floyd Floyd doesn't. Floyd is doing that exact same thing in round 12 as he was in rounds 1-11. Everyone else falls off at various rounds. When they loose steam Floyd takes over. The only adjustment that happens is Floyd opponents dropping punch count cause they can't keep pace.
Floyd is a supburb fighter but his greatest asset is his conditioning. That my friend cannot be refuted. Screw what everyone here of his trainers say. There is a reason why Floyd does insane cardio training. It's to keep his 0.
lol, this guy is rediculous. Floyd adjusts all the time and its pretty clear. Even specific examples. The punch Shane landed twice in the 2nd, he tried it again later because it worked and it was blocked because floyd was ready for it. He adjusts his offense for each specific fighter as well, using looping right hands around the high guard, uppercuts for guys susceptible for them ect.
Mayweather's mental strength would be a big factor in this fight, Floyd is the best at keeping his composure while we saw Whitaker himself get frustrated before for example against Dela Hoya, Floyd is a much faster, better defensive fighter than Dela Hoya with one of the best weapons against southpaws which is the the straight right hand to the body and to the head, something Dela Hoya never really had, Whitaker can get off to a fast start and win the early round but he's gonna get broken down cuz the head can movr but the body can't move and we've seen what Floyd did against Judah, he was missing with head shots so he went exclusively to the body and that broke Judah down, by the 5th Mayweather will have figured him out, at 147 i'd put my money on Floyd easily.
I went back and 3 times just reading the other comments. I am a huge Whitaker fan. I can actually see these 2 fighting a trilogy because either one could win. If I had a gun to my head I would pick Whitaker. Simply because I think he would be able to stay in the pocket and make Mayweather miss. The question in this one is, who would be the aggressor? If Whitaker is the aggressor I can see Mayweather winning on counter punches. If Mayweather is the aggressor, then Whitaker can stand his ground and outwork him.
That's an interesting way to think of it. If people had a gun to their heads and their life depended on it I'm thinking 99% of people say "Mayweather". The thought process would be different in this case. I think the logic part of the brain would force someone to say Floyd because he's never lost before.
Pretty close overall in both defense and offense. Floyd has more consistent pop in his shots. Whitaker could do more damage with single left hands, do to timing or loading up on it or whatever. He unified the LW titles on a single left hand in the 1st round against Nazario, basically ended the Lomeli fight with one left hand, rocked Chavez briefly in the 8th round of their fight, and turned the Hurtado fight around with one left hand, and then almost killed him with the follow up lefts while Mercante Jr. stood there and watched. I guess Mercante Jr. can be really active when it comes to helping fighters "suck it up" and deliberately ignoring the requests of the chief second, but just stands there when guys almost get killed with punches.
Whitaker had the superior jab as his right jab was simply brilliant, although Floyd's jab is excellent too, as he has the best jab to the body I have ever seen. Floyd's left hook is better than Whitaker's right hook IMO. Floyd's straight right is better overall in effectiveness than Whitaker's straight left. Whitaker has the edge in workrate and combinations. They are both excellent body-punchers. I give Whitaker the slight edge due to him letting his hands go more and how frequently he contorted his body to get the angles on body punches. There is one instance early in the 8th round against Hatton that I've seen probably 1,000 times because it's so great to watch, when Floyd pivots his body to get the angles on these bodyshots against Hatton (during the part when Manny Steward says Ricky is bringing out the best out of Floyd). He then again uses the jab to the body to set up a right to Ricky's head.
Whitaker did this quite often. He got these weird angles due to his body movements and how he got low. Unorthodox but not necessarily technically unsound either, it would give him angles for offense and also for defense.
Anyway, on offense they are pretty close as they both have areas in which they were better at. Whitaker had an edge on defense. I doubt anyone would get hurt since they were defensive masters and the chances of Whitaker landing a shot on Floyd like he did against Nazario or Lomeli is very slim.
I think Whitaker's pesky jab and superior workrate would be the difference in a close decision. 7-5
Well this one would be the sure cure for insomnia.
If Fraud can be in boring fights offensive opponents, I can just imagine what a "fight"(and I use that word VERY loosely) would look like with someone that was even more boring than he is.
The only entertaining Mayweather/Whitaker match would be Pernell vs Roger in a crack smoking contest. Now that would be entertainment.
Roger alread fought Whitaker in one of the most exciting fights I've ever seen and I've seen everything, go watch it first.
Great match up, but u have to favor Floyd, Floyd has the faster hands and probably more power, also he's mentally tougher and he doesn't get intoxicated with his defense like Whitaker. Even though Whitaker was great defensively, he wasn't the best counter puncher, Floyd beats him in this department too, plus we've seen how good Floyd is at countering smaller guys.
But Whitaker is great and he can probably give him the toughest fight of his career.
In this one I'd expect both to be comfortable, both of them have solid chins, both have been in there with stronger punchers, as well as very good hand speed. So I wouldn't expect either to be too tentative. In this case Mayweather has both a jab/ right hook to worry about, on top of that Whitaker's superior inside game.
Granted Whitaker wasn't the same fighter but McGirt had success leading with the right hand, Mayweather is likely to do more, I don't know man :dunno:
I think Whitaker can hurt Floyd (keep in mind he's southpaw) but in the end Floyd will prevail slightly.
This fight gets brought up from time to time...And it has some history. As everyone here probably is aware the pea fought Roger and what was interesting was that despite getting starched Roger did knock Pea down. He did so because he got to Sweet pea mentally and pea wanted to put an azz whuppin on roger rabbit! Which he did do but....it was kind of intersting that Pea could be brought outside his comfort zone a bit....
Prime for prime its a very interesting fight. In this case Mayweather could (talkin prime here) do more things than Whitaker, but the things Whitaker did so well nulify virtually all the things Floyd could do, so it doesn't really matter. And the opposite is true, because Pea fought real pressers like Chavez, but thats not what Floyd does/did anyway...so what happens?
Its a toss up. Prime Floyd catches you midpunch as he slips and rolls, but Pea seldom commits enough to get countered this way....And pea catches you inside and as you reset but Floyd throws straight as an arrow...So who gets lucky? First guy to crack gets cracked...
I went back and 3 times just reading the other comments. I am a huge Whitaker fan. I can actually see these 2 fighting a trilogy because either one could win. If I had a gun to my head I would pick Whitaker. Simply because I think he would be able to stay in the pocket and make Mayweather miss. The question in this one is, who would be the aggressor? If Whitaker is the aggressor I can see Mayweather winning on counter punches. If Mayweather is the aggressor, then Whitaker can stand his ground and outwork him.
Floyd wins easily, and Sweet Pea is one of my all-time favorite fighters. Sweet Pea looked best by getting the other guy to throw wildly, Mayweather is going to land that straight lead right over and over.
Floyd doesn't win "easily" against a prime sweet pea... nothing was ever "easy" against Pernell and he was truthfully never beat in his prime. But I think I would still favor Floyd who I think can match him in speed,skill, and defense but Floyd has the edge in power and I think Floyd is the bigger man ... so yea.
Loooooool. Boxing isn't the sport for you.
Precisely I couldn't fight all 12 rounds like 95% of professional boxers. I would literally be killed in the first round by 95% of professional boxers. It's why i don't box and simultaneously the reason a respect boxers for what they do and admire those like Floyd who can excel at it for a solid 12 rounds.
It would be interesting for sure. Floyd uses most his legs for defense and Whitaker uses mostly his hips, his upper-body for defense even though both can use a little of the other guy's style at times. I think Whitaker would solve Floyd easier than Floyd could solve Whitaker so a close decision for Sweet Pea.
Depends. Does Floyd get to use PEDs and hide it with exeptions from USADA like he does in all his fights?
If floyd is allowed to continue his peds use and gaming the system, then FLoyd wins. Normal Floyd gets his ass handed to him by Pernel.
Funny that floyds head hasn't grown 4 hat sizes in the last 8 years.
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