So Golovkin gets hit twice in round 4 and hes a bum??

It's all just for good drama show

I rewatched the fight last night, and it's pretty obvious GGG willfully changed tactics after the 2nd round. He completely abandons his jab and starts boxing inside, drawing Monroe out into a fight and getting touched by the Mongoose in spots (particularly the 4th round) but seemingly not affected by any of them. Was it a gift to the fans? It looks like it, simply due to fact that if GGG stuck w/ working behind the jab the fight might have been over at the beginning of the 3rd. GGG is too disciplined to simply have his jab disappear in the middle of a fight he's dominating. however, because he decreased his head movement and stopped working behind the jab, GGG looked more vulnerable. hopefully that will entice some of the bigger names to fight. good post, i think once he didnt get the second round ko, i think he thought, **** it, lets toy with him. Notice the first two round Gennedy was really slick, just schooling the American, as Maericans cant compete with his Athleticism. I want Peter Qullin next...

I rewatched the fight last night, and it's pretty obvious GGG willfully changed tactics after the 2nd round. He completely abandons his jab and starts boxing inside, drawing Monroe out into a fight and getting touched by the Mongoose in spots (particularly the 4th round) but seemingly not affected by any of them. Was it a gift to the fans? It looks like it, simply due to fact that if GGG stuck w/ working behind the jab the fight might have been over at the beginning of the 3rd. GGG is too disciplined to simply have his jab disappear in the middle of a fight he's dominating. however, because he decreased his head movement and stopped working behind the jab, GGG looked more vulnerable. hopefully that will entice some of the bigger names to fight.

figure of speech as in ''I've watched them.'' The fact that those old Southpaws better than Fuchigami or Proksa, went the the distance should hold water why GGG's team doesn'T take risks with elite Southpaws calling him out. You'd think elite fighters can catch other fighter's weaknesses. I had hoped you would come back with responses with all the points I pointed out. =( are you talking about ouma? he didn't go the distance with golovkin, and spent several days in a hospital after that fight. since then, he has fought once, after a long layoff, and it was against a fighter with a losing record. ouma had a great chin at his best, and took some bombs in that fight. golovkin is a much, much better professional today than he was in '11. that was probably a dozen fights ago.

That Floyd Mayweather fans are Jealous of eastern europeans and Canelo taking all his thunder. Gennedy is simply a better p4p fighter than Mayweather, and a number of Mayweather fans dont like that, while Mayweather scrapes through his last 3 fights taking horredous punishmnt on the way...dont forget he lost to castillo and nearly got koed by 40 year old Shane mosley... Wait a minute? GGG beating Monroe is now a better win than Pacquiao? And are u saying he has a better career than Mayweather....lmao. Holy shi..t. I like GGG, but please dont tell me Pacfans are jumping on his bandwagon....because this post, sounds a lot like their retarded clan.

You're seriously defending or buying Loeffler's words?! ''open to the Lara fight.'' No, ''he said IF Lara comes to 160 we MIGHT CONSIDER a fight.'' I don'T know how cut and dry that is, but that's like saying ''we can't make any guarantees even if Lara moves to 160.'' Dude it's called ducking any way you look at it. He could've said, ''Lara is defnitely and currently a top 154 pounder, IF he were to move up to 160 I think it would be a GREAT fight for GGG.'' On Ouma, I have the tapes man, and I have the Gardner bout too. As well as even poorer opposition like Fuchigami with his 6 losses coming in to fight GGG or that scrawny Proksa kid that was landing shots on GGG like a Pac style. All Southpaws. The problem with casual boxing fans is that they don't take into the logistics of how fighters are chosen. In this case EMPIRICALLY it's obvious GGG has not fought elite SOUTHPAW opposition, and you even agreed with me on the Ouma bout that was working GGG for the first 6 rounds as a 154 pounder taking a 160 bout. Are you still not understanding the point as to the HIGH risk of GGG's camp taking on Lara or Andrade? Alvarez is comfortable at 154 and is only 160, the coin is on him, not the pressure of a what a 34 year old GGG camp wants for Loeffler or Sanchez's percentage. Do keep in mind Abel Sanchez unlike other trainers has the worst opinions on boxing, they'Re so generalized it proves he's in the wrong business to train the best. Dropping mitts on the ground on important workouts and saying GGG has the skills to beat Floyd?! Cmon man. I must say your attitude is more reassurring than a Pac fanatic, but please at least acknowledge or try to understand facts and compromise. I know you can. I suggest you watch those Southpaw fights and then make an assertion to the Monroe Jr bout. Monroe Jr. is a great kid verbally, but his fame beating a Vera in some boxceno tournament is nowhere near the level of Lara and who he's fought. Personally how can a boxing fan not like GGG, I think GGG is the next Julio Cesar Chavez in the style of closing the ring and finishing, HOWEVER, I follow boxing crazy. It saddens me that even Julio Cesar Chavez had a padded resume by far. 30 ko streak and 80-0 until he found elite opposition like Whitaker and robbed him. Back then in sports that was the most talked about incident. Keep in mind too back then Floyd was schooling Whitaker and Randall at sparring at the age of 16. You have tapes?

GGG looked good, as he usually does. With the style he puts to use, he's going to take some shots from time to time. The only issue you can have with GGG is level of opposition. Can Canelo beat GGG? I believe he can, yes. It's a hell of a fight and it can go either way (GGG will be the favourite), but to tell me Canelo can't win? I firmly disagree.

wow, frozen 2 grossed more than films like Godfather, Taxi Driver, Drive, fight club etc etc. Its no where near as good as them. Gennedy doesnt YET earn more than floyd, but hes a dam sight better fighter. Floyd struggled with B LEVEL Maidana, 40 year old mosely, past it DDL, and imo scored a draw against a one armed pacquio. plus he lost to castillo. Golovkin is literally slaying his opponents in brutal fashin and not even getting rocked. Face it, hes even better looking than the ugly floyd... Also Floyds in his money making part of his career proped up by liberals in America as the last top fighter from the US. i didn't see frozen 2, but frozen is a much better movie than fight club. fight club is garbage. frozen was legit.

Mayweather got hit twice in twelve rounds and people are pretending he lost.

The ''slow punching Angulo'' is the worst example to bring in justifying Lara's ability to fight GGG. That's like saying ''well, Rigondeaux got dropped by some Japanese dude twice ala Amagasa, so therefore he can't possibly face Santa Cruz, Frampton, or Quigg.'' And you also just proved my point even more. Ouma was a 154 Southpaw taking a 160 bout, AGAIN, Loeffler and Sanchez say that there's NO BUSINESS in fighting a 154 guy, hence Lara or Andrade, yet Alvarez is ok because he's Orthodox and the cash king?! That's again once upon time ''we'll fight anybody at 168 too we want Froch, but NO Ward.'' cmon man. ''We chose Monroe Jr. because we wanted to test an 18 ranked Southpaw and prove we're p4p.'' -Abel Sanchez Right, Abel, that's why Monroe Jr. is a more talked about Southpaw than Lara or Andrade. Speaking of Southpaws that have more pop than a Monroe Jr.. welll geeez he's currently holding a WBO belt.... I do circles on these convos bro. The targeting of Alvarez is not because he's orthodox, it's because he's a PPV fighter and essentially a gateway to stardom, much as fighting De La Hoya was for Mayweather and Pacquiao. Similarly Froch is a PPV fighter whereas Ward is not although they have said they're willing to do the Ward fight provided the money is there. When fighters step up in weight class, it's usually for a big money fight. After the Monroe fight, Golovkin's promoter stated they were open to the Lara fight. They're not avoiding Lara but I would venture that his association with Haymon and his issues with HBO obviously make the politics of the bout difficult. On Ouma, the man was stopped in the 10th round. He had to go to hospital for a couple of days and didn't fight again for over two years. He gave Golovkin a good fight some years ago now, but he's really not great evidence that a JMW could beat Golovkin.

Ouma was durable guy, but Lara is not very durable. A slow punching Angulo managed to drop him twice and a slow-footed Alvarez managed to cut him and consistently land bodyshots on him. While he might be the best JMW, I don't consider Lara elite. He has a draw with Vanes Martirosyan on his record and a loss to Saul Alvarez who is imo not elite himself. I envision Golovkin cracking Lara with something, probably in the first half of the fight and he likely won't recover. It's a bit early for Andrade to warrant the elite tag. I'm not picking Lemieux but he has a good puncher's chance which is a better chance than anyone else in the division imo. When two bangers get into the ring sometimes it's whoever gets hurt first. Rubio actually has more knockouts than Golovkin has fights so I don't know about the light-punching tag. I said relatively light punching for a reason. He's not a knockout artist, he's a great finisher. I'm a bit of a Rubio fan. But his opposition since moving to 160 has been crap besides the fights where he got beat handily...and Lemiux. Rubio upset a lot 9f ppl with that win and to me, it illustrated 1 thing. Lemiux is not that good, which he isnt. Rubio would probably beat him 8x out of 10 if they fought.

wow, frozen 2 grossed more than films like Godfather, Taxi Driver, Drive, fight club etc etc. Its no where near as good as them. Gennedy doesnt YET earn more than floyd, but hes a dam sight better fighter. Floyd struggled with B LEVEL Maidana, 40 year old mosely, past it DDL, and imo scored a draw against a one armed pacquio. plus he lost to castillo. Golovkin is literally slaying his opponents in brutal fashin and not even getting rocked. Face it, hes even better looking than the ugly floyd... Also Floyds in his money making part of his career proped up by liberals in America as the last top fighter from the US. GGG hasn't beaten anyone better than Maidana yet.

This weebler dude dropping knowledge on NSB...

C'mon dude. GGG's camp went the distance with Ouma and Gardner, and look at the tapes if GGG used his infamous left jab posture against Southpaw opponents. He has trouble with Southpaws. Ouma was a 154 but took the 160 bout. These are circumstancial evidences you wont hear Loeffler or Sanchez say. GGG was all tired and getting caught with those fighters. Rd 4 Willie Monroe Jr., GGG all tired out huffing and puffing, you don't see that with the best 154 or 147 fighters in the game. Maybe the Kirkland and Canelo bout but those guys are tugging out a war. Against Monroe Jr. GGG was worn out at the 34 year old age tip. HE didn't look good. This is what many are saying he got exposed by a Monroe Jr. Therefore, rewind, Lara - more significant Southpaw than Monroe Jr - yet Abel Sanchez and Loeffler disrespect and discredit Lara in any excusable way it's comical. Same with Andrade calling out GGG. The gap is 154 and 160 is the gate right, so why is GGG pressuring a 154 Canelo? Doesn't make any sense. I guarantee you that IF Lara and Andrade were Orthodox fighters it'd be a different story with GGG fighting them. It doesn'T matter if Lara potshots and uses footwork or less punches against GGG as it goes to 12, it's just that GGG would be exposed by elite A level fighters like Andrade and Lara. Ouma was durable guy, but Lara is not very durable. A slow punching Angulo managed to drop him twice and a slow-footed Alvarez managed to cut him and consistently land bodyshots on him. While he might be the best JMW, I don't consider Lara elite. He has a draw with Vanes Martirosyan on his record and a loss to Saul Alvarez who is imo not elite himself. I envision Golovkin cracking Lara with something, probably in the first half of the fight and he likely won't recover. It's a bit early for Andrade to warrant the elite tag. yea, it doesnt work like that, but when u get knocked out by a relatively light fisted journeyman, u arent beating golovkin. I'm not picking Lemieux but he has a good puncher's chance which is a better chance than anyone else in the division imo. When two bangers get into the ring sometimes it's whoever gets hurt first. Rubio actually has more knockouts than Golovkin has fights so I don't know about the light-punching tag.

You know that's a triangle theory, obviously boxing doesn't work like that. I like you wove a little politics in there. yea, it doesnt work like that, but when u get knocked out by a relatively light fisted journeyman, u arent beating golovkin.

you guys never state actual Rd. comparisons of boxers not empirically state differences in style. all you guys do is talk like girls. To assume no 154 pounder has a shot at a 160 flat footed fighter suggest nobody really understands divisional challenges. How many times have elite fighters surprised us moving up in weight and taking a belt. This whole GGG unbeatable thing is as ridiculous as a dogmatic *******. goofball double standards in these forums. clearly yall don't box Who are the elite fighters at 154? Be careful not to confuse popularity for ability.

didnt he get knocked out by Rubio. HE HAS ZERO CHANCE You know that's a triangle theory, obviously boxing doesn't work like that. wow, frozen 2 grossed more than films like Godfather, Taxi Driver, Drive, fight club etc etc. Its no where near as good as them. Gennedy doesnt YET earn more than floyd, but hes a dam sight better fighter. Floyd struggled with B LEVEL Maidana, 40 year old mosely, past it DDL, and imo scored a draw against a one armed pacquio. plus he lost to castillo. Golovkin is literally slaying his opponents in brutal fashin and not even getting rocked. Face it, hes even better looking than the ugly floyd... Also Floyds in his money making part of his career proped up by liberals in America as the last top fighter from the US. I like you wove a little politics in there.

lol, dude, u went full retard well in that case you should find it easy to dissect my post....

wow, frozen 2 grossed more than films like Godfather, Taxi Driver, Drive, fight club etc etc. Its no where near as good as them. Gennedy doesnt YET earn more than floyd, but hes a dam sight better fighter. Floyd struggled with B LEVEL Maidana, 40 year old mosely, past it DDL, and imo scored a draw against a one armed pacquio. plus he lost to castillo. Golovkin is literally slaying his opponents in brutal fashin and not even getting rocked. Face it, hes even better looking than the ugly floyd... Also Floyds in his money making part of his career proped up by liberals in America as the last top fighter from the US. lol, dude, u went full retard

Yes. People are definitely buying their PPV's over Floyd. Plus, people have them rated higher all time. :lol1: wow, frozen 2 grossed more than films like Godfather, Taxi Driver, Drive, fight club etc etc. Its no where near as good as them. Gennedy doesnt YET earn more than floyd, but hes a dam sight better fighter. Floyd struggled with B LEVEL Maidana, 40 year old mosely, past it DDL, and imo scored a draw against a one armed pacquio. plus he lost to castillo. Golovkin is literally slaying his opponents in brutal fashin and not even getting rocked. Face it, hes even better looking than the ugly floyd... Also Floyds in his money making part of his career proped up by liberals in America as the last top fighter from the US.