Hypothetically speaking, where would boxing be as a sport if the Mayweather-Pacquiao superfight (5.6 million pay-per-view buys) was a boxing match like Felix Trinidad vs. Fernando Vargas?
What could have happened to boxing if a fight like Trinidad-Vargas took place on May 2nd, 2015, with the world watching?
Please post and discuss this hypothetical question.
the only problem i had with tito-vargas was the low blow
I still feel the ball punching was the real issue. Getting hit with serious power to the balls three times... Trinidad loses this fight without those low blows.
Undoubtedly one of my favorite fights ever:
-Both fighters undefeated
-Both fighters were champions
-Both fighters were young
-Both fighters had a high KO percentage
-Both fighters had aggressive styles
-Both fighters had disdain for each other
-Mexico/PR rivalry
-Both fighters get knocked down for a total of six knockdowns
-Both fighters get deducted points for low blows
-Dramatic opening round
-Dramatic closing round finish
^^^Find me any other fight that has anywhere close to all these ingredients. That fight was just brutal.
All I know is I won't be able to talk to my casual friends about boxing for a while, it would have been the opposite if it was Trinidad vs Vargas. Before some Floyd nuthugger says that I am just "salty" because Manny lost, if anyone bothers to look I said right after the fight was announced that I would prefer that Pacquiao got knocked out if Floyd was to win that way at least the fight is entertaining.
I said miniscule, not non-existent.
Alright. Even thats relative, given you had 5m viewers, miniscule can be a lot. But for sure many would be giving it a second chance if theyd seen Trinidad Vargas
Much better than now. I thought boxing was boring as sh1t till I happened to catch Trinidad Vargas and Barrera Morales, then I was hooked
I said miniscule, not non-existent.
7 million buys? That would set the bar so high.
casuals were suckers specially for exciting fights. the 5.6M will buy it again for sure and the word of mouth would surely add 1.4M minimum.
so bad what we had is an uneventful fight that bore the casuals to death.
I was thinking about this after the Mayweather-Pacquiao fight. If a firefight between two strong accurate punchers like Trinidad-Vargas happens in this day of age it would be the winning lottery ticket for Boxing as a sport and give it life with younger fans. I don't know what it is but im dying for Boxing to get real exposure and not a bunch of hype like the Mayweather-Pacquiao fight. Every weekend I'm thinking when is the new Tito-Vargas,Barrera-Morales,Rafa Marquez-Vasquez and Castillo-Corrales type fight going to finally happen on PPV,NBC,CBS,SpikeTv,HBO,Showtime where all the casuals are tuning in?
The Trinidad-Vargas fight made me a huge boxing fan. From that day on I haven't missed a fight. I think the recipe for having success are making the best fight the best. I feel like the public is not dumb they will watch if it's a toss up fight.
The conversion rate of casual to actual fan would've been miniscule anyway. People only watched it because they felt they couldn't afford to miss out on the "fight of the century".
Much better than now. I thought boxing was boring as sh1t till I happened to catch Trinidad Vargas and Barrera Morales, then I was hooked
The conversion rate of casual to actual fan would've been miniscule anyway. People only watched it because they felt they couldn't afford to miss out on the "fight of the century".
It'd be 5.6 million upset Mexicans rather than 5.6 million upset Pinoys.
That makes no sense. Why are you bringing race into this? Don't answer that; I know you're a trolling asshole, racist flomo.
rematch would be 7M PPV min..
7 million buys? That would set the bar so high.
People would ask for an immediate rematch and it would be the most anticipated event of the fall of 2015.
Fall of 2015?
After engaging in that type of war... very brutal and destructive... I think they would need at least a year off to heal. Mayweather-Pacquiao 2 June 2016!
dat fight was a million times better than dis sh1t below!
Mayweather boxes, moves around a lot, and clinches a lot. He only fights in short spurts.
Basically he comes to box.
But guys like Fernando Vargas and Tito Trinidad... They come to fight -- fight to the bitter end.
Hypothetically speaking, where would boxing be as a sport if the Mayweather-Pacquiao superfight (5.6 million pay-per-view buys) was a boxing match like Felix Trinidad vs. Fernando Vargas?
What could have happened to boxing if a fight like Trinidad-Vargas took place on May 2nd, 2015, with the world watching?
Please post and discuss this hypothetical question.
rematch would be 7M PPV min..
dat fight was a million times better than dis sh1t below!
Of course.
I was just a snot-nosed kid when Trinidad and Vargas did battle in the ring -- but even then -- I knew I was witnessing greatness.
Hypothetically speaking, where would boxing be as a sport if the Mayweather-Pacquiao superfight (5.6 million pay-per-view buys) was a boxing match like Felix Trinidad vs. Fernando Vargas?
What could have happened to boxing if a fight like Trinidad-Vargas took place on May 2nd, 2015, with the world watching?
Please post and discuss this hypothetical question.
dat fight was a million times better than dis sh1t below!