Why is JCC Sr more idolized in the latin demographic then Roberto Duran?

I think Chavez is just fresher in peoples minds, and Duran left a bad taste in peoples mouths when he quit against Leonard.

Because Mexico is invested in boxing more than panama. Everybody always talks about how Mexicans are the true boxing fans.

because jcc was the P4P best for most of his career Duran lost to guys like Kirkland Laing and to robbie sims, how do you call yourself one of the greatest of all time when you were really a top contender in every division apart from lightweight. Apart from the lightweight division where Duran ruled JCC was by far the more dominant champion. Duran also had a padded record at lightweight. Duran- 103 wins 16 loses JCC- 107 wins 6 loses Yes...let's just pretend that Chavez didn't get gift decisions against the likes of Juan Laporte and Frankie Randall :lol1: And how could possibly compare the route both took as it pertains to their "p4p" status and rulership over their respective divisions? You think Chavez could move up to Welterweight/Junior Middleweight/Middle and compete with the likes of Leonard, Hagler & Hearns and rule those divisions? :thinking: The idea of Chavez stepping in the ring with any of those men sounds asinine let alone even having a competitive fight with either of them. But Duran did it. And keep in mind, Chavez & Duran are naturally the exact same size and have the exact same physical dimensions (identical height & reach) and started out at about the same weight. Chavez wouldn't have dominated or ruled diddlyfuk if he took Duran's route...he woulda been a stepping stone/gatekeeper type of fighter. :lol1:

lol go look at the populations/ end of thread

because jcc was the P4P best for most of his career Duran lost to guys like Kirkland Laing and to robbie sims, how do you call yourself one of the greatest of all time when you were really a top contender in every division apart from lightweight. Apart from the lightweight division where Duran ruled JCC was by far the more dominant champion. Duran also had a padded record at lightweight. Duran- 103 wins 16 loses JCC- 107 wins 6 loses

Because population of Mexico is higher than Panama's but all in all, Duran is a better boxer than Chavez sr.

Seriously Duran fought better guys even at weights that were not beneficial to his stature. panamanians -3.5 mil mexicans -155.0 mil. including 25 mil. in the united states

It's simply a combination of his style, and Chavez being the more recent and popular of most of the ATG Latin fighters. When you put all this Nationalistic stuff aside, even today's fighters were influenced by the Fighters of their childhood, even idolized them. Danny Garcia, is an example, he mentioned that he grew up and loved watching Chavez and Mike Tyson as a kid, and Tito as he grew older. And i've heard Mexican fighters that are great fans of Tito, and so on. Just depends on who you talk to, and who they liked at the time. I guess it is the aura of greatness that surrounds JCC Sr. Defying odds to come out on top and becoming legendary in recent history. Probably the same way people say Ali would beat (insert heavyweight boxer)

It's simply a combination of his style, and Chavez being the more recent and popular of most of the ATG Latin fighters. When you put all this Nationalistic stuff aside, even today's fighters were influenced by the Fighters of their childhood, even idolized them. Danny Garcia, is an example, he mentioned that he grew up and loved watching Chavez and Mike Tyson as a kid, and Tito as he grew older. And i've heard Mexican fighters that are great fans of Tito, and so on. Just depends on who you talk to, and who they liked at the time.

Probably has something to do with there being roughly 100x more Mexicans in the Americas than Panamanians. But Duran is easily the greater fighter of the two without any dispute. And would destroy Chavez H2H. And i can't speak on Latin American opinion...but in the states, Duran is generally held in much higher regard by most boxing fans both casual & hardcore. Outside of probably mex-americans.

I think it can be a combination of things, including Chavez Sr nationality is one of the top 3 most popular in boxing of all time (American, Mexican, Puerto Rican, Cuban, Italian, Irish). So Chavez is one of the most popular boxers of one of the most most popular nationalities in boxing. Boxing is a nationalistic sport, a very racially divided sport.

Well with the exception of Brazil...Mexico has a much larger population than other Latin counties...sooooooo.

Plus either Durans mother or father is Mexican, and then the other was Panamanian

Duran is the bigger legend, though a lot of Mexican fans still hold Chavez in high regard and he gets brought up a lot now because of his son.

Fans tend to group the latin demographic into one group. They are not. Mexicans fans idolize Chavez Sr. because that is where he is from. Fans in Panama idolize Roberto Duran because that is where he is from. Puerto Rican fans idolize Felix Trinidad because he is a native of PR. Each of these guys have fans all over the world, but they are more respected in their own countries. Yea I guess what I am really referring to is "Latin-Americans". And from what other posters are saying on here how JCC Sr is fresher in peoples mind, that probably is the factor with there being many Latin American casual boxing fans

i think they are both idolized the same I always feel like latin people always opt to say JCC Sr as the best of the best. For instance in Seckbacks interviews with latin people, he may ask them who would beat Mayweather. And never do I here Duran. Duran was a far more devastating attacker and technician

Seriously Duran fought better guys even at weights that were not beneficial to his stature. Fans tend to group the latin demographic into one group. They are not. Mexicans fans idolize Chavez Sr. because that is where he is from. Fans in Panama idolize Roberto Duran because that is where he is from. Puerto Rican fans idolize Felix Trinidad because he is a native of PR. Each of these guys have fans all over the world, but they are more respected in their own countries.

I'm not so sure I agree.. Obviously in mexico chavez is king, but all of Latin america, I think duran is regarded higher Plus chavez is fresher in people's minds

Seriously Duran fought better guys even at weights that were not beneficial to his stature. They're both idolized. Chavez sr just happens to be more recent than Duran. Similar to how people mention Ali more than Louis.

he didn't quit in the biggest fight of his life. imagine sr saying no mas against pernell whitaker