I thought they were pretty close accomplishment wise (Pac probably accomplished a bit more considering his FW run) before they fought.
Floyd definitely won the fight, no question so none of that "Oh, Manny really won" crap.
Discuss.
people are gonna say you're hating because floyd just beat him, but if you look at this objectively and don't forget anything from pacquiao's resume, manny has a better resume, the disparity isn't super-wide but it's noticable for sure
It's to be expected. People are still high over the win.
Objectively, I think it's close, with everything considered. Depends really on how much stock you put on an undefeated records or the level of "prime-ness" of their opponents.
Some won't give Pac credit for Morales 2, or Floyd's win over Cotto.
people are gonna say you're hating because floyd just beat him, but if you look at this objectively and don't forget anything from pacquiao's resume, manny has a better resume, the disparity isn't super-wide but it's noticable for sure
This was a close fight, I don't know what the hell other people were watching.
No, not even close.
people are gonna say you're hating because floyd just beat him, but if you look at this objectively and don't forget anything from pacquiao's resume, manny has a better resume, the disparity isn't super-wide but it's noticable for sure
Pac has a knack for winning fights he isn't supposed to. Sadly this was not the case. It is what it is
The reach killed him.
Great win for Floyd. Hope packy holds a farewell fight in the Philippines for his fans.
i'd say Pac should fight Thurman next then retire
no shocking surprise from Pac this time. Floyd was Floyd but Pac did not deliver what is required or even what was expected. less than 500 shots thrown was not acceptable.
its an incredible run anyway.
Pac has a knack for winning fights he isn't supposed to. Sadly this was not the case. It is what it is
The reach killed him.
Great win for Floyd. Hope packy holds a farewell fight in the Philippines for his fans.
Floyd beat him because he's a better boxer head to head
had Floyd beat him in 2009 we can agree that he's ahead resume wise
manny's losses count.....i don't give any fighters praise for taking 3-4 fights to convincingly beat someone. that's like giving praise to a student for failing math only to take it over and shaming another student for passing math with flying colors.
Considering the road Manny took to be considered one of the best, is mind boggling. Despite many wars, he can still hang with the best of them.
I hope my fellow pac fans stop being too salty about the loss. I mean come on, did any of us think he'll get this far? Manny has done us proud. :boxing:
no shocking surprise from Pac this time. Floyd was Floyd but Pac did not deliver what is required or even what was expected. less than 500 shots thrown was not acceptable.
its an incredible run anyway.
so morales was prime? a past prime morales beat pacquiao if you wanna be real....pacquiao didn't beat him until he was coming down in weight and coming off of a loss. i'll give you barrera but pacquiao never clearly beat jmm, ever. so since you wanna start putting *'s on floyd's wins, i'll just do the same to pacquiao's wins.
you're grasping at straws.
agreed......and floyd beats him in both categories.
Exactly. What else would Floyd have to do? He not only had a better resume, but beat him also. Now if you want to say that Pac had a slight or even resume then Floyd, well Floyd schooling Pac would edge Floyd as the better fight.
Head to head, yeah, we saw Floyd beat Pacquiao.
Accomplishment wise? I think they are about even in their fights around WW before they fought.
Pacquiao's featherweight run was pretty significant. Going 6-2-1 against legit ATG's is a big deal. Is Floyd's win over a past prime Pac better than that? I don't know.
so morales was prime? a past prime morales beat pacquiao if you wanna be real....pacquiao didn't beat him until he was coming down in weight and coming off of a loss. i'll give you barrera but pacquiao never clearly beat jmm, ever. so since you wanna start putting *'s on floyd's wins, i'll just do the same to pacquiao's wins.
some Floyd fans try to put down Pac losing to cab drivers while saying beating him makes Floyd TBE :lol1:
These newbie floyd fans can't even kiss floyd's ass correctly.
This macho style is BS. These dudes fight that way cause they can't fight any other way. do you remember how Margarito started holding Pac when Pac was firing away, or when Margarito was getting on his bicycle after Mosley was dropping bombs. If Margarito had defensive skill, it's pretty safe to say he would rather skillfully avoid punches then to block them with his head.
That was a much better version of pac to be fair.
lol pac weren't #2p4p.
You don't recover from a KO like that and Pac didn't.
Since the KO he been gunshy, which massively effected his performance.
That's not what you said in January bro
How on earth can you have Rigo and Ward ahead of Manny?
Floyd Mayweather, Manny Pacquiao, Gennady Golovkin, Sergey Kovalev, Wladimir Klitschko.