The Most Offensively-Defensively Balanced Fighter: ATG new level

people severely underrate his offense. that fight on saturday wasnt his best offensive performance. with that said, he hit manny with a variety of punches, straight right, counter left, left check hook, left hooks, jabs upstairs and to the body. **** he even hit manny with a really hard uppercut in round 11. i really wish ppl actually watched fights and paid attention to what is actually going on. becuase he did a lot of good offensive work in that fight.

He would get KO'd against the great welters! He fights feathers & lightweights blown up, or kids with 30+ fights but actually have NO experience! He has no power and thats why he isn't an ATG Welter! He would barely make the top twenty which is actually pretty good! Fans who are under 35 years old today have no idea what a real fighter fights like. GGG and Koval are close but their still lacking polish that a Pee Wee Whitaker had, or Leonard or the great Sugar Ray Robinson. Mayweathers skill level is high but his formular for success is boring, when you wear all the hats (fighter, promotor, matchmakes, trainer) things get abit lopsided and novice fans don't know the difference because they've only been around for 20 years or so! The guy has talent no doubt but he is a bore! No doubt! Ray.

Preach to these idiots plz. He landed a few jabs, most of his punches landed on pacs GLOVES or hit air. These guys are so happy their god won they'll put the blinders on for anything. lol, I guess you didnt visit the gif thread. :lol1:

He must be right up there now! People are still mad at him for winning, I don't know what folkes expected. Everyone I spoke to thought it was gonna be like this. Wait til his carreer is over, he'll be right up there with the best of the best.

Pac beat Floyd. Floyd has got no offense. Look at him v Gatti and Corrales. He had offense there. His punches nowadays shouldn't be scored, so lack of venom or anything. They have speed that's why they aren't countered though. Everytime Pac landed he hurt Floyd, is it anyone wonder Pac felt he beat Floyd as did many others. Floyd threw more and landed more than Manny. Hahahaha so now you want to change the rules of boxing on what is counted as a hard enough landed punch? seriously? the whole rules of the sport changed just so Pacquiao has a glimmer of hope at beating Mayweather. This is pathetic, seriously.

Pac beat Floyd. Floyd has got no offense. Look at him v Gatti and Corrales. He had offense there. His punches nowadays shouldn't be scored, so lack of venom or anything. They have speed that's why they aren't countered though. Everytime Pac landed he hurt Floyd, is it anyone wonder Pac felt he beat Floyd as did many others. Preach to these idiots plz. He landed a few jabs, most of his punches landed on pacs GLOVES or hit air. These guys are so happy their god won they'll put the blinders on for anything.

Pac beat Floyd. Floyd has got no offense. Look at him v Gatti and Corrales. He had offense there. His punches nowadays shouldn't be scored, so lack of venom or anything. They have speed that's why they aren't countered though. Everytime Pac landed he hurt Floyd, is it anyone wonder Pac felt he beat Floyd as did many others.

There was literally nothing unfair about this fight. Pacquiao lost to a great boxer, so what? Pacquiao is a great fighter in his own right and has won some great fights and will be remembered as a great. It's sport, sometimes there's just a guy who's better than you. If people remember you as the second best fighter of your generation when Mayweather is the guy above you, there is no shame in that. A great distance athlete maybe. This is just the difference of how I see boxing and how you do and apparently the rest of the *****s. I repeat floyd did NOTHING. Ran around the ring, pot shotted. Grabbed pac when he got close, rinse and repeat. That's not boxing and I don't give a damn what you "experience" fans think. I waited six years for this travesty of a fight, I'm gonna let my voice be heard *****es.

Lol if floyd actually fought a fair fight, pac would have kicked his ass. You're just to blind to see it. There was literally nothing unfair about this fight. Pacquiao lost to a great boxer, so what? Pacquiao is a great fighter in his own right and has won some great fights and will be remembered as a great. It's sport, sometimes there's just a guy who's better than you. If people remember you as the second best fighter of your generation when Mayweather is the guy above you, there is no shame in that.

LOL, you mean like your following quotes: "Unless mayweather learns some of that matrix dodging bullets **** he's gonna get caught with several right hooks and left hands. I guarantee it" "Lmao at Floyd underestimating manny. You do that Floyd come May 2nd take your azz whoopin like a real man" "Can Mayweather shoulder roll 8-10 punch combinations? He better poison manny's water before the fight if he wants a chance to win." "I can't wait till pacquiao whoops on Mayweather than all these retarded *****s will be eradicated from this site for all eternity." :fing26: Eradicate yourself... Lol if floyd actually fought a fair fight, pac would have kicked his ass. You're just to blind to see it.

Exactly, I don't give a **** what anyone says. I would have given floyd FULL credit if this fighter happened in 2009. In b4 someone quotes something I posted months ago, lol. LOL, you mean like your following quotes: "Unless mayweather learns some of that matrix dodging bullets **** he's gonna get caught with several right hooks and left hands. I guarantee it" "Lmao at Floyd underestimating manny. You do that Floyd come May 2nd take your azz whoopin like a real man" "Can Mayweather shoulder roll 8-10 punch combinations? He better poison manny's water before the fight if he wants a chance to win." "I can't wait till pacquiao whoops on Mayweather than all these retarded *****s will be eradicated from this site for all eternity." :fing26: Eradicate yourself...

If he beat Pacquiao in 2010 and continued on doing his sh^t, no doubt you could crown Floyd Top 5 ever.. But this is 2015... It was too late honestly Exactly, I don't give a **** what anyone says. I would have given floyd FULL credit if this fighter happened in 2009. In b4 someone quotes something I posted months ago, lol.

Tbe Tbe period!

He is what Stevie Johnston would have been with Top Rank & later Al Haymon's backing, though a lesser inside fighter. Real offensive skill is something Mayweather hasn't demonstrated in about a decade, and that was against a heavily shopworn Arturo Gatti.

there aren't five better technical fighters in the history of the sport......idgaf what anyone says. show me someone who disagrees and i'll show you a pacf@g, a floyd-hater or just one big dumb@ss retard that doesn't know ***** about the sport.

u drank too much floyd juice he outland pac 2-3 punches mostly jabs nothing special he forced pac to fight his boring fight of catch the chicken runnin good for him and his fans bad for boxing You're just an idiot that still ignore actual offensive and defensive skill that's synonymous with each movement. He actually outlanded the C- fight by 2 to 1, and stood in front of him mostly with his hands at his sides and improperly used the philly shell in the conventional stance, and still Manny hit less than 90 percent of Floyd's resume. You drink too much semen or something that is why you are not acting like a man.

u drank too much floyd juice he outland pac 2-3 punches mostly jabs nothing special he forced pac to fight his boring fight of catch the chicken runnin good for him and his fans bad for boxing

Why do people consider Mayweather just a defensive fighter? Mayweather is actually the most complex pugilist that have ever reigned in the sport. His Offense and Defense is seamlessly balanced to the most narrow extreme level. He is THE nonpareil in boxing historical universe, NO one has as many tools as Mayweather, No one. He doesn't love boxing anymore because it's too easy for him, he accomplished everything that was there for him to figure out. He's a hacker... A complete misnomer, anomaly... He reduced what many considered an ATG (not me I always knew Pac was C-) for the past 6 years in to a complete failure in 36 minutes. People are frustrated, angered, and upset because they just don't understand what happened, but can't deny that it left no arguments. THAT WAS A POWERFUL SUPER COLD DOSE OF REALITY. Pacquiao was never suppose to be in the conversation, but since people put him there, they can't deny Mayweather's place in the top 3 or 5 of All Time Greatness at this point. He's going to be recognized in history as the most Perfect Balanced Technician of the sport. Very very few greats in history are going to be able to outbox Mayweather, or even touch him. He's just a trade hack, he has all the skills and distance knowledge to nullify anyone's gameplan. Floyd offense and defense is the most perfect ever seen in the sport. Still 2 idiots say Mayweather haven't proved anything.