those really are abilities common to all boxers tho, some are just better than the others, not to define versatility at all....
By that logic since everyone can do everything nobody is one-dimensional...
Everybody can't lead just as effectively as they can counter off of someone else's work. Being able to lead off with single or combination punches as good as he can counter off of someone else's work would definitely put him into the category of having more than one dimension to his game.
danny garcia. chin, luck, and gift decisions. his specialty is standing in the middle of the ring and trading hooks. can't think of anything else he's good at.
Marquez isn't as reluctant to fight on the inside or press the action, no where near as reluctant as those other two. Maybe your not remembering things clearly but go watch his fights against Diaz and Katsidis. In fact you don't even have to go that far back, Marquez pressed the action against Bradley and he still managed to fight a highly competitive fight. That's not one dimensional at all, Marquez time and time again has shown that he will fight in areas where he isn't his strongest.
That's a fair point, he does exchange more and I didn't take that into account. I was just looking at it as strictly offense or defense. Solid post.
he can fight in either direction, he can lead, he can counter, he can box, he can punch, he is a complete fighter both defensively and offensively.
one of the most well rounded fighters in the game i would say.
mastering the basics to the point where you can win fights with a limited amount of tools doesnt mean you dont have other tools. it just means you are extraordinarily good at the fundamentals with a safe approach to the game.
those really are abilities common to all boxers tho, some are just better than the others, not to define versatility at all....
don't consider jmm 1 dimentional either... excellent at midrange, and not as bad on the inside aswell (juan diaz fight) though had baby bull possesd power, jmm would've gotten beat up hell of a lot more even with the victory..
rigo has not shown any versatility in his game but then again he really has not been in a fight where he needed to...unlike Floyd (for example) in which he needed to fight on the inside coz he had to...so rigo is the best imo
NONE of those guys are one dimensional at all
infact that might as well be a list of the sports most versatile fighters who can outbox you all night then knock down at will as a finale
how is that one dimensional?
the extremes are
rigondeaux is a counter-puncher, that's it, how quick we forget about the fight vs agbeko, and has anyone watched him vs addy? if you dont punch at him, what happens? nothing, because he can't make anything happen, he's a counter-puncher, through and through, can fight defensively, and that's all he does
klitschko, he's a jab jab, occasional left hook, right etc(atleast since steward) as someone has mentioned on here, he's a lead fighter, what else is he effective with? not a counter-puncher, no inside game, he has great footwork and defense like rigo, but that doesn't add dimensions, this is part of the one style, he can fight defensively, but again, since steward that's all he does
the less extremes is a guy like
donaire, sure he's fast, big power and athletic, but he can't create openings, can't cut off the ring, can't fight inside, but he is a great counter-puncher, less one-dimensional than the others but would still consider one-dimensional
NONE of those guys are one dimensional at all
infact that might as well be a list of the sports most versatile fighters who can outbox you all night then knock down at will as a finale
how is that one dimensional?
Wow a lot of you on this forum really don't know sh1t about boxing.
I don't consider NONE of these damn fighters on this list "One-Dimensional" WTF?
GGG is a Boxer/Puncher, Rigondeaux is far from One-Dimensional, Counter Punching is what he does BEST but if you push the little dude you will sting the fuk out of you with that left Hand. After feeling that left it is not Rigondeaux fault that guys become afraid to let their hands go
Marquez again Counter Punching is his strength but JMM will stand and fight your ass and get into a all out War as well
So where the hell is the One-Dimensional Fighter in this Group?
Now if you posted Ruslan, Brandon Rios guys like that I would understand but these are Not One-Dimensional Fighters!
i only agree golovkin is not one-dimensional
he can fight in either direction, he can lead, he can counter, he can box, he can punch, he is a complete fighter both defensively and offensively.
one of the most well rounded fighters in the game i would say.
mastering the basics to the point where you can win fights with a limited amount of tools doesnt mean you dont have other tools. it just means you are extraordinarily good at the fundamentals with a safe approach to the game.
he can't lead and he has no inside game at all(he was in fact kd'd twice because of his lack of inside game)
he's only effective one way, one way = one-dimension
Wlad, the guy does the same thing in all his fights. Jab, Jab, Jab, clinch, occasional Right hand, a couple left hooks. The only thing he's done different in the last 10 years is in his last fight when he inadvertently uppercutted himself.
:lol1: that might be true but that is not One-Dimensional you just listed 4 Different Things he does during a fight :lol1: :dunno:
Wlad, the guy does the same thing in all his fights. Jab, Jab, Jab, clinch, occasional Right hand, a couple left hooks. The only thing he's done different in the last 10 years is in his last fight when he inadvertently uppercutted himself.
Wow a lot of you on this forum really don't know sh1t about boxing.
I don't consider NONE of these damn fighters on this list "One-Dimensional" WTF?
GGG is a Boxer/Puncher, Rigondeaux is far from One-Dimensional, Counter Punching is what he does BEST but if you push the little dude you will sting the fuk out of you with that left Hand. After feeling that left it is not Rigondeaux fault that guys become afraid to let their hands go
Marquez again Counter Punching is his strength but JMM will stand and fight your ass and get into a all out War as well
So where the hell is the One-Dimensional Fighter in this Group?
Now if you posted Ruslan, Brandon Rios guys like that I would understand but these are Not One-Dimensional Fighters!
how is he not?
he can fight in either direction, he can lead, he can counter, he can box, he can punch, he is a complete fighter both defensively and offensively.
one of the most well rounded fighters in the game i would say.
mastering the basics to the point where you can win fights with a limited amount of tools doesnt mean you dont have other tools. it just means you are extraordinarily good at the fundamentals with a safe approach to the game.