At what point do you think Pacquiao started juicing?

no one knows if pac is on peds. but it's pretty sad if he never was and his name is tainted. especially with no evidence. yet dudes like holyfield that does have evidence, ppl act like they don't know. He tainted his own name by walking away, same way someone who refuses a breathalyzer test makes them look suspicious of DWI/DUI.

those guys had evidence. where has there ever been evidence with pac? McGwire and Clemens never tested positive for steroids. What evidence do you have?

I explained why I posted it. If you choose not to or are simply too stupid to understand I can't help you. Early success does not eliminate PED use later on in an athletes career. why are u bringing this up again?? are u implying that pac was on something?

no one knows if pac is on peds. but it's pretty sad if he never was and his name is tainted. especially with no evidence. yet dudes like holyfield that does have evidence, ppl act like they don't know.

after he got ko'd by marquez, imo

again, what does any of that have to do with manny doe?? I explained why I posted it. If you choose not to or are simply too stupid to understand I can't help you. Early success does not eliminate PED use later on in an athletes career.

those guys had evidence. where has there ever been evidence with pac? They did? There were no positives when they weren't testing. They also never walked away from testing either. Jose told on himself and McGwire. I guess Clemens and bonds did test positive after a while.

those guys had evidence. where has there ever been evidence with pac? he walked away because of a blood test! oh and look at his head!!

I was addressing Tua's point about early success eliminating the suspicion of PED use. I don't think it does and pointed out some examples of athletes that had early success and then started using PED's. again, what does any of that have to do with manny doe??

Canseco had an MVP, McGwire had hit 49 homers as a rookie, Clemens had a HOF career and Barry Bonds had 3 MVP's and was already a lock for the HOF before they began using PED's. Just sayin.... those guys had evidence. where has there ever been evidence with pac?

what does any of that have to do with manny? thought u werent suspicious of pac? #justsaying I was addressing Tua's point about early success eliminating the suspicion of PED use. I don't think it does and pointed out some examples of athletes that had early success and then started using PED's.

Canseco had an MVP, McGwire had hit 49 homers as a rookie, Clemens had a HOF career and Barry Bonds had 3 MVP's and was already a lock for the HOF before they began using PED's. Just sayin.... what does any of that have to do with manny? thought u werent suspicious of pac? #justsaying

what clever matchmaking? fighting the top guys in the division? 126 - barrera, marquez 130 - morales, barrera, marquez 140 - hatton only division he didn't fight the top guy was 135. he fought a top 4 guy diaz. he moved up to 147 in 2009. do you know the top 4 147 guys at the start of 2009? marg, cotto, clottey, mosley. guess what pac next 4 fights were after hatton. cotto, clottey, marg, mosley. good post right here. floyd fans always trying to down play pac's resume.

as a teenager. minimum. pac beat a top 10 guy in his division at 18. pac beat the lineal champ in yis division at 19. pac sucks. must be ped. Canseco had an MVP, McGwire had hit 49 homers as a rookie, Clemens had a HOF career and Barry Bonds had 3 MVP's and was already a lock for the HOF before they began using PED's. Just sayin....

I think he started in the 5th grade. as a teenager. minimum. pac beat a top 10 guy in his division at 18. pac beat the lineal champ in yis division at 19. pac sucks. must be ped.

Change your Avatar....... i think clever matchmaking/catching fighters on the decline help created the illusion that he was this PED guzzling machine. he surely didn't do himself any favors (amongst people who don't guzzle his jizz anyway) with all those excuses to dodge the test doe You sound stupid. Why is Maidana your Avatar? Hahaha! Because he gave Floyd a "hard time"? LoL. Smh.

i think clever matchmaking/catching fighters on the decline help created the illusion that he was this PED guzzling machine. he surely didn't do himself any favors (amongst people who don't guzzle his jizz anyway) with all those excuses to dodge the test doe what clever matchmaking? fighting the top guys in the division? 126 - barrera, marquez 130 - morales, barrera, marquez 140 - hatton only division he didn't fight the top guy was 135. he fought a top 4 guy diaz. he moved up to 147 in 2009. do you know the top 4 147 guys at the start of 2009? marg, cotto, clottey, mosley. guess what pac next 4 fights were after hatton. cotto, clottey, marg, mosley.

he stopped doping with bradley and jmm3? why cause he couldn't ko 2 guys no one has ever koed? LOL he fought in macau to use ped? LOL he started blood testing when in his fight in macau. pac's performance dipped 2012 because he hit mid 30's. also he started fighting smaller guys. big = slower, easier to hit the smaller guys for some reason give pac trouble going back to flyweight/featherweight days.

i think clever matchmaking/catching fighters on the decline help created the illusion that he was this PED guzzling machine. he surely didn't do himself any favors (amongst people who don't guzzle his jizz anyway) with all those excuses to dodge the test doe

Banned????? Why aren't threads like these banned????