Too many people think Pacquiao is going to try to replicate Maidana's performace. I disagree; heres why:
He doesnt like chasing opponents ie Shane Mosley, Chris Algeri and latter half of Bradley 1 because he likes to be the counterpuncher. This is why he did so well against Magarito, Dela Hoya, Rios, Hatton, Cotto and even Bradley in their rematch. People even forget that Cotto was outboxing him somewhat in the later rounds of their fight despite Cotto suffering 2 knockdowns
When an opponent is mid range ie Barerra and even Morales, hes an ambush fighter who boxes in and out
I think comparing Maidanas performance to what Manny will do is unrealistic
This will be a completely different fight because Manny rarely stays inside
When was the last time he bulled someone against the ropes and flailed away?
So many people assume hes going to pressure Floyd non-stop, I dont think so. That will be his last resort only if Floyd decides to box and potshots
That said Floyds legs only last half the fight, so maybe Pacquiao can take advantage. We'll see.
not anymore that's for sure, last time i saw that bob and weaving windmilling maniac i think was in spurts vs cotto
now he's definitely just a boxer
he used to have a similar mindset as golovkin(without the deft ring cutting), likes to come forward with lots of punches but rarely fights inside and likes to keep you at the end of his punches
now there's no real pressure to his style, just boxing
correction: marquez fight he was bobbing and putting pressure on wonderfully, although not with as much activity as in his wilder days
OK... In case Pac would be an "ambush / counterpuncher", then what Floyd is?
... It was Floyd who was often labelled as an "ambush / counterpuncher"...
... And there's a big difference between these two fighters' styles...
Theyre both counterpunchers
Pacquiao counterpunchs usually with his straight left hand when the opponent throws the jab and Floyd uses the Pull-right hand counter over the jab
Floyd can fight on the inside but he prefers to potshot and move. Pacquiao goes in and out and clearly is more offensively minded, hes not a potshotter.
Different dynamic between the two because of their height and reach and southpaw/orthodox stances.
Cotto was outboxing him in the latter rounds? The ****? Pac landed more in the later rounds when Miguel started running. He got hit viciously.
AND LOL. Dude has pressured every fighter he has fought since Margo, He just did it smartly (except when he fought JMM).
Outboxing is too strong of a word but he was having success at times on the backfoot.
In regards to him pressuring he was forced to pressure those opponents. He had to chase Bradley around the ring causing it to be a close fight, he chased Marquez and arguably lost all 4 fights. Not sure how he pressured Rios? He outboxed him clearly with in and out movement. And against Algeri it was solid but he missed a lot and Algeri isnt anywhere near elite.
Pacquiao doesnt fight in the pocket, if he goes onto your chest hes only there for a short time until he bounces back out again.
When chasing an opponent he loses balance when he punches because he fully commits and leaps in. If he misses his head is wide open for a counter ie Marquez
Its amazing how many people, including former fighters and trainers, think of current Pac as a pressure fighter.
I dont think he's been one since 126lbs tbh.
He likes to go to war, no doubt. But that doesnt make him a pressure fighter
Too many people think Pacquiao is going to try to replicate Maidana's performace. I disagree; heres why:
He doesnt like chasing opponents ie Shane Mosley, Chris Algeri and latter half of Bradley 1 because he likes to be the counterpuncher. This is why he did so well against Magarito, Dela Hoya, Rios, Hatton, Cotto and even Bradley in their rematch. People even forget that Cotto was outboxing him somewhat in the later rounds of their fight despite Cotto suffering 2 knockdowns
When an opponent is mid range ie Barerra and even Morales, hes an ambush fighter who boxes in and out
I think comparing Maidanas performance to what Manny will do is unrealistic
This will be a completely different fight because Manny rarely stays inside
When was the last time he bulled someone against the ropes and flailed away?
So many people assume hes going to pressure Floyd non-stop, I dont think so. That will be his last resort only if Floyd decides to box and potshots
That said Floyds legs only last half the fight, so maybe Pacquiao can take advantage. We'll see.Solid observation. That's what makes Pac so effective is his style is a little unique and the description of Counterpuncher/Ambush fighter is the best way to describe him and like you said, if it doesn't work in this fight, he may try to pressure more.
Pac was more of an aggressive pressure fighter who didn't just throw but actually went for openings and holes he found when he was younger. This has changed over the years to more of a wait a bit, then pounce at the openings style of fighting.
I don't think he would be any more effective at throwing all to the wind than Maidana if Pac just plans on throwing nonstop punches. At that point they will lose snap to them and Jr. will be ready for all that.
I think Pac will try to get Jr. to commit to punches that he normally throws that Pac is looking to avoid and counter around them. He's looking for the awkward angles and getting Jr. out of his comfort zone to make more mistakes. When he goes for his counters, it will be with a larger volume than just picking off a shot with a shot. This will look good with the judges.
He is the best offensive fighter in the history of boxing.
And he is both those things. He combines high pressure and furious workmanship with great timing and skill.
Crush that cowardly mother ****er Pac!
Lets be Clear: Pacquiao is not a Pressure fighter, he's an Ambush/Counterpuncher
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OK... In case Pac would be an "ambush / counterpuncher", then what Floyd is?
... It was Floyd who was often labelled as an "ambush / counterpuncher"...
... And there's a big difference between these two fighters' styles...
I agree to an extent. IMO Pacman must throw punches in droves, period. He and Floyd both shared that 12 round stamina at one point. Most fighters, (especially those they've chosen to fight), usually fatigue around mid fight. Both Floyd and Pacman remain strong. That's where Pacman might be able to have success where others failed.
But he will have to attack, ambush fighting as you call it. He won't bully Floyd because he is bigger. And he better not get gunshy from those counter shots which are bound to happen. All in all the fight is half a decade too late and people shouldn't forget it.
Cotto was outboxing him in the latter rounds? The ****? Pac landed more in the later rounds when Miguel started running. He got hit viciously.
AND LOL. Dude has pressured every fighter he has fought since Margo, He just did it smartly (except when he fought JMM).