The Manny that stopped Cotto. Can stop mayweather!

No no no 1. No evidence what so ever that this religious man has used any performance enhancement drugs. As a competitive power lifter no amount of anavar, d-Bol, test-e etc will allow you to handle a punch from a bigger man! They will make you stronger by intercellular water retention. 2. I would go as as to say the floyd that beat Hatton would get KOed by the pressure of manny.....remember Hatton b level fighter at best was putting all kind of pressure on mayweather.... 3. We simply don't know what manny would turn up...manny lost the hunger when he realised he could not get floyd to fight him....This might be that switch to hunger again... Who knows...I truley believe manny doesn't care about the money it's about legacy to him.

I thought Floyd can even make 140? As for Cotto, just go check out Floyd Sr before and after the Cotto fight. Night and Day. He didn't use your silly excuse. who said that, Floyd Sr.? ok. Manny beat Cotto when he was at 145, I don't thnk that Manny could beat Floyd. If he thought he could, he wouldn't have walked away over PED testing.

................... The juiced up version of Pac would destroy everyone as he did. The non juiced version = today's Pac would have a hard time with current Cotto and def will get schooled by May! There......I said it!

Muhammer is in a god damn wheel chair. All the more reason why JulianQ is favored.

I would say no as Floyd isn't required to come in at 145. I thought Floyd can even make 140? As for Cotto, just go check out Floyd Sr before and after the Cotto fight. Night and Day. He didn't use your silly excuse.

Isn't that the version of Cotto that pretty much had no trainer and was weight drained? Unless I am not remembering right. Correct, you don't remember. Go watch Floyd Sr video just before watching the Cotto fight and after. Night and day. Before: "Cotto is too big, too technically better, ...... My son Floyd is going to whoop Manny. After: "I don't want my son Floyd fighting Manny"

Its only after the fight you are going to see the effects of training to make weight , how can you judge a fck up before it happens , fact is the 154 versions of Cotto and Oscar run over the 145 versions Manny beat and you will see how very different this fight is with a non drained Floyd who beat the same guys only they were 20 pounds bigger , it matters in the perspective of this fight . So i guess Oscar wasn't a walking skeleton before the fight?? How can u judge a fvck up before it happens? Maybe if the excuses is talking about how he has a weak trainer. I don't think u need to wait until after the fight to find out who cotto's trainer is right?

Yeah and if floyd didn't ask for extra testing we would of seen this fight years ago but it's irrelevant now but u just wanna bring it up and then end it with lets just be happy it's happening now. lol ok. What I said was irrelevant was this thread's notion. The only conclusion you can draw from it would be that we'd need a time machine to bring THAT Pacquiao to the present. Since you can't, what's the point of the thread really?

I have no doubt about this....please feel free to express your opinion....one of my favourite fights...and I am a mayweather fan(was) I disagree. Manny looked great cause he fought a gimped cotto. Cotto was untrained and sucked up and it still took manny 11 rounds to take him out.

But that version of pacquiao was his purple patch when he was in his prime. If you are saying a prime pacquiao would beat a 38-year-old version of Mayweather you are correct. Just as a prime Mayweather would beat the current older version of pacquiao. You must compare apples to apples. I'm 43 years old. My current version could KO Muhammer Ali right now. Because he is waaaaaaaaaay past his prime. On his prime he beats me with one finger. It's a stupid example but my point is you can't compare a prime version opponent against an older fighter. Muhammer is in a god damn wheel chair.

So before the fight U were on saying it's not fair since cotto doesnt have a trainer and is weight drained right? Or did u wait until after the fight to voice ur opinion? Its only after the fight you are going to see the effects of training to make weight , how can you judge a fck up before it happens , fact is the 154 versions of Cotto and Oscar run over the 145 versions Manny beat and you will see how very different this fight is with a non drained Floyd who beat the same guys only they were 20 pounds bigger , it matters in the perspective of this fight .

Freddie Roach tends to disagree with u. Now he believes Pac has more heart. :pat: Heart can only get you so far & too much of it can get you & hurt BAD

I agree that this was the reason for the requests for more stringent testing. But if that Pacquiao does destroy any version of Mayweather, they should've done the Holyfield (we talked about this before), took the test and whooped his ass. Without going through the motions (again), I do think this s irrelevant now, both guys had performances at the time that made them look damn near invincible (Paquiao/Cotto & Mayweather/Marquez) and ironically they both have an asterix on them. Let's just be happy it's happening and have meaningful disucussions about it. Yeah and if floyd didn't ask for extra testing we would of seen this fight years ago but it's irrelevant now but u just wanna bring it up and then end it with lets just be happy it's happening now. lol ok.

I would say no as Floyd isn't required to come in at 145.

I never said that. But if that makes you feel better have at it. So before the fight U were on saying it's not fair since cotto doesnt have a trainer and is weight drained right? Or did u wait until after the fight to voice ur opinion?

this wouldnt be a thread or questioned if he had took the test hes now taking

Thats true, can't really compare a prime fighter to a fighter that is not in his prime anymore but how are u gonna compare 2009 pac to floyd now with U and the great Ali? 2009 pac and floyd now ain't that far apart as compare to U and Muhammad Ali. Totally agree. I was just using an extreme example to be funny. Obviously Mayweather right now isn't too far from what his prime was compared to the great Ali (who is old and frail).

The Cotto that Manny fought was destroyed by Margarito. Psychologically, he was damaged goods. Floyd hasn't been damaged as bad as Cotto.

Oh the no trainer weight drained excuse. But before the fight ohhh manny is getting killed!! Cotto is a beast!!! I never said that. But if that makes you feel better have at it.

2009 PAC beats any version of floyd and even sr. Knows this! This is the reason why the ped accusation started, after pac destroyed cotto. Keyword: destroyed! I agree that this was the reason for the requests for more stringent testing. But if that Pacquiao does destroy any version of Mayweather, they should've done the Holyfield (we talked about this before), took the test and whooped his ass. Without going through the motions (again), I do think this s irrelevant now, both guys had performances at the time that made them look damn near invincible (Paquiao/Cotto & Mayweather/Marquez) and ironically they both have an asterix on them. Let's just be happy it's happening and have meaningful disucussions about it.