We are boxing fans. We are passionate about this classic sport and despite us coming from all kinds of racial, ethnic, religious, gender, age, native language or whatever other category you can think of that makes us different people. But we all have one thing in common we are boxing fans. We take precious time out of our lives away from work, family, personal time etc to come to this forum to discuss and sometimes argue our opinions of our favorite fighters past or present. We have passion for boxing and I'm sure all of us can agree that boxing as a premier sport has been slowly pushed down the ladder of most popular below soccer, football, basketball, baseball etc.
My question is what in your opinion does boxing as a sport and the participants from the fighters to the promoters need to do to bring it back as one of the most popular sports in the world?
Edit I added a poll with some of the best ideas
I agree. Boxing fell so far out of the national public conscience that it's going to be really, really unlikely that it ever gets even in the same galaxy of what it used to be.
It's a niche sport and will probably remain that way. One thing is (one of many), the major sports are overflowing with bandwagon casual fans, whereas boxing doesn't have casuals. That is unless you count the ones who make an appearance for the really big PPV fights. But you're not going to catch casuals sitting at home watching your average HBO or Showtime subscription card. Only hardcore boxing fans do that.
And also, the fact that for years (and years) ESPN completely ignored the sport. On SportsCenter, fights are virtually completely ignored unless they involve Floyd or Manny. Tons of people watch sportscenter. Tons. And without them even mentioning anything boxing related -- a lot of sports fans don't have any clue a fight card is coming up unless it's the sports absolutely biggest names. And even then it's usually just a quick blurb scrolling at the bottom of the screen. Now I heard that ESPN will start to cover boxing more because of the PBC deal, and that'll certainly help. But the fact that it has been completely and utterly ignored for years now has certainly helped push it even further into obscurity.
That's the unfortunate thing about boxing. Sportsnews channels don't cover it. It almost seemed like when they do cover it like mentioning upcoming fights, it's seen as a shameless plug or helping promoters promote the fight. Yet they don't have problem mentioning or promoting other sports.
1. More fights on basic cable and on OTA stations.
2. Less bull**** with judges and refs.
3. Cards that have at least some fan pleaser content on them.
4. Fights that are: a) Competitive with people on the sameish skill level particularly in the non-elite ranks, or b) that have good narratives (up and comer vs old lion, avenge the 'L', etc.), and c) acknowledge that elite level guys will need tuneups but don't make those main events or PPVs.
5. Acknowledge that boxing isn't the UFC or the WWE-- Put bits of gym footage in the telecast, sprinkle in some boxing theory, pay attention to well edited bio pieces. After that put on a show.
6. Promoters and managers should reach out to non-traditional for boxing, but otherwise mainstream, media. Put Rios on a cooking show. Thurman on the View. Algieri on latenight. If boxing is a footnote in mainstream sports media then you have to think asymmetrically.
7. The promotional outfits have to at least be able to make an extra effort to make the fights that should happen, happen, and in a reasonable time frame. If not 'next fight when it's proper' then within no more than 12 months.
It never will be main stream.
I agree. Boxing fell so far out of the national public conscience that it's going to be really, really unlikely that it ever gets even in the same galaxy of what it used to be.
It's a niche sport and will probably remain that way. One thing is (one of many), the major sports are overflowing with bandwagon casual fans, whereas boxing doesn't have casuals. That is unless you count the ones who make an appearance for the really big PPV fights. But you're not going to catch casuals sitting at home watching your average HBO or Showtime subscription card. Only hardcore boxing fans do that.
And also, the fact that for years (and years) ESPN completely ignored the sport. On SportsCenter, fights are virtually completely ignored unless they involve Floyd or Manny. Tons of people watch sportscenter. Tons. And without them even mentioning anything boxing related -- a lot of sports fans don't have any clue a fight card is coming up unless it's the sports absolutely biggest names. And even then it's usually just a quick blurb scrolling at the bottom of the screen. Now I heard that ESPN will start to cover boxing more because of the PBC deal, and that'll certainly help. But the fact that it has been completely and utterly ignored for years now has certainly helped push it even further into obscurity.
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If we get more of these guys fighting, the sport blows up, becomes probably the number 1 sport in the USA.
1) Fix the ****ty amateur system to help develop fighters.
2) Fix crap decisions and get rid of crooked judges/refs.
3) best fight the best on regular basis.
4) One or two champs per division, get rid of all the ****ty alphabet belts that no one cares about.
5) Put boxing on mainstream television.
Pretty much what everyone else already put.
A strong foundation is vital when building anything, so I will go with:
- More Amateur gyms/more funding for amateur gyms.
- More boxing on Network TV
There are multiple gyms in every major US city.
The problems are far bigger than lack of gyms.
I'd say more fights on network/basic cable.
There's a fair few here in the UK, but it's mainly Prizefighter and Fight Night domestic stuff. . . Also a lot of people aren't going to stay up until 6am for boxing here. . . Well not casuals, so bit of a catch 22.
Maybe if people like Khan would fight Brook, that would be a huge attraction here.
I wasn't talking about the fighters, I was talking about the mainstream fan. Guys nowadays are into knitting and tulips.
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Boxing hasn't gotten front page attention since Floyd-Canelo and now Manny-Floyd that's not good enough. Boxing compared to the 90s when every sports fan could name a few champions now only know Manny and Floyd. Only 2 people isn't enough exposure.
where'd you go? :blackeye:
1.. One champion per division
2.. On regular cable or network TV including PPv caliber fights (super bowl ain't ppv)
3.. Best fight the best on a regular basis
4.. Fighters fight 3-6 times a year not 1-3
5.. No more crap decisions
6.. Rings are all 20x20
7..rocky 7 is a huge hit
Boxing does that, it will regain lost popularity
IMO we need more Boxing Gyms across the country and around the world, better distribution of wealth among fighters, better promotion for the sport and fighters, etc. The sport needs to be nurtured again from the ground up. Young people need a reason to want to get into this sport again.
Also, less belts, less confusion, less choice between opponents for the fighters(ducking), more fighters willing to truly take on ALL comers, more regulation/oversight, and more undisputed champs.
This is the school of thought I support as well. Gaining popularity with the kids and communities will transition them info lifelong fans, that will be passed on to their own children.
Sounds like you have an agenda outside of boxing. Really doubt too many guys are into "knitting and tulips".
You really see no correlation between what sports people like and... People themselves?
Even if you erased all the corruption and belt issues and promoter disputes from boxing there wouldn't be some golden key that makes it the biggest sport in the US ever again.
MMA is struggling to come up with gimmicks to keep growing but it's pretty obvious they ran into the same demographic ceiling as boxing.
Does anyone REALLY think we would see some colossal explosion in mainstream popularity just by shifting some belt/promoter logistics around? Nah you need a growing belligerent young male demographic for the sport to keep growing and there isn't one. That isn't just the talent pool, it's the core viewership. In reality you have an aging, hyperfeminine culture that simply isn't that interested.
Boxing on the whole is doing well, the HW scene is just very poor ATM.
Boxing hasn't gotten front page attention since Floyd-Canelo and now Manny-Floyd that's not good enough. Boxing compared to the 90s when every sports fan could name a few champions now only know Manny and Floyd. Only 2 people isn't enough exposure.
I wasn't talking about the fighters, I was talking about the mainstream fan. Guys nowadays are into knitting and tulips.
Sounds like you have an agenda outside of boxing. Really doubt too many guys are into "knitting and tulips".