I have Kovalev stopping him in the late rounds, RJJ will win the early rounds but Kovalev will adjust, stalk him, and land devastating power shots that will break Roy.
Kovalev takes a prime Roy to the corner and mauls him.
Kovalev is a monster....yea right....couldnt ko a 50 year old hopkins but is gonna ko a figher on a whole 'nother level.
Who cornered and mauled a prime Roy Jones? Dude didnt take a real loss til he was 35..only dropped once before the age of 35
Kov would maul 45 year old Roy for Sure but Jones in his heyday beat fighters on Kov level with ease like Virgil Hill, McCallum, etc.
Kov would get thoroughly outboxed. He stands to square, no head movement and has shown susceptibility to speed and counters and Roy Jones is soul brother number one in that department...makes opponents hesitant and Jones has some power
a KO would be Kov only hope and considering how elusive Jones was in his prime that would be highly unlikely
Kov is a good fighter, but he isnt on a Prime Roy jones level.
This is a no-brainer. Jones was able to go up to HW and win a belt there against a top 5 guy - and Kovalev ain't punching harder than any HW in the top 5.
Jones by KO, mid to late rounds.
ruiz has the embarrassing distinction of being beaten by 2 former middleweight champs.
spades and spade.....Been on this forum for years...had other names for myself but this is a constant problem.
Kovalev takes a prime Roy to the corner and mauls him.
a lot of posters on this site refuse to do their research on a topic or fighter but have an opinion
What I've noticed is, most the people on this forum don't know anybody who didn't fight this decade and Roy was at his best in the 90s and it was over by 03-04
Any body with a brain who witnessed his prime live, like we did, would know know whats up
I agree entirely.
Kovalev hasn't fought enough yet for these guys to see what we see.
Hopefully this year goes well for Kov, him beating Pascal, Stevenson, and Ward all in 12 months... will prove what a beast he is
I can see what you can see.
But the reality is: his best win was against a 50 year old Bernard Hopkins, and Jean Pascal (who literally wasn't even half as good as Roy was) repeatedly tagged him with ease throughout their fight.
There's no way he should be favoured over a prime version of Roy at this stage. But like you say, let's wait and see what happens. It's going to be very interesting.
I think people are overlooking Kovalev.
It would have been an extremely dangerous fight for Roy. I've no doubt about that. But I think he's very hittable, and Roy would have to be favoured big at this point.
Yeah.
I never thought Roy could ruin his legacy, but I guess he has done, because a lot of these guys are looking at how devastating Kov is, as well as who's destroyed Roy over the last 10 years.
I think a lot of these guys either never saw Roy's prime, or they've forgotten just what a phenom he was in the 90's.
a lot of posters on this site refuse to do their research on a topic or fighter but have an opinion
What I've noticed is, most the people on this forum don't know anybody who didn't fight this decade and Roy was at his best in the 90s and it was over by 03-04
Any body with a brain who witnessed his prime live, like we did, would know know whats up
I think people are overlooking Kovalev.
Kovalev hasn't fought enough yet for these guys to see what we see.
Hopefully this year goes well for Kov, him beating Pascal, Stevenson, and Ward all in 12 months... will prove what a beast he is
Yeah.
I never thought Roy could ruin his legacy, but I guess he has done, because a lot of these guys are looking at how devastating Kov is, as well as who's destroyed Roy over the last 10 years.
I think a lot of these guys either never saw Roy's prime, or they've forgotten just what a phenom he was in the 90's.
I think people are overlooking Kovalev.
that is what i envision after a nip and tuck first round
Yeah.
I never thought Roy could ruin his legacy, but I guess he has done, because a lot of these guys are looking at how devastating Kov is, as well as who's destroyed Roy over the last 10 years.
I think a lot of these guys either never saw Roy's prime, or they've forgotten just what a phenom he was in the 90's.
Great post!
Don't forget that Roy took out Griffin and Hill with single shots, and they both weighed 180 plus on fight night, with Hill nearing 190 as their fight was a 177 catch-weight. Also, Roy was the only guy to ever knock out Hill in 58 fights.
Once again, if Pascal could land 4/5 overhand rights that were telegraphed with no leverage, then a 25 year old version of Roy would have thought it was Christmas in there.
that is what i envision after a nip and tuck first round
he'd hit some fighters....end up behind them and hit them again
his footwork and speed was immaculate
Kov aint no joke but he doesn't beat a prime Jones. He is very basic, neat fighter and Jones was very unorthodox.......Pascal is the no name brand, low shelf version of Jones and Kov had a tough fight with him. Old cagey Hopkins made the distance,
Jones wasn't the finisher at 175 that he was at 160 and 168 so after he figured Kov out, he'd cruise to a UD.....a knockdown or too considering Jones hit people with punches they didn't see coming and Kov doesn't have great upperbody or head movement
Great post!
Don't forget that Roy took out Griffin and Hill with single shots, and they both weighed 180 plus on fight night, with Hill nearing 190 as their fight was a 177 catch-weight. Also, Roy was the only guy to ever knock out Hill in 58 fights.
Once again, if Pascal could land 4/5 overhand rights that were telegraphed with no leverage, then a 25 year old version of Roy would have thought it was Christmas in there.
This would have been a great fight. It's almost a toss up, maybe 60-40 in RJJ's favor. If RJJ was serious, he should win. But if he tried to get a little cute like he sometimes gets, I can see him getting iced for a 10 count or the KD costing him the fight.
So does Toney, Hopkins, Ruiz, Hill. I don't care who you care no one from 160-175 just walks through prime Roy Jones punches, and even if you could walk through them Roy wouldn't even be there once you walked through them. He had incredible feet.
he'd hit some fighters....end up behind them and hit them again
his footwork and speed was immaculate
Kov aint no joke but he doesn't beat a prime Jones. He is very basic, neat fighter and Jones was very unorthodox.......Pascal is the no name brand, low shelf version of Jones and Kov had a tough fight with him. Old cagey Hopkins made the distance,
Jones wasn't the finisher at 175 that he was at 160 and 168 so after he figured Kov out, he'd cruise to a UD.....a knockdown or too considering Jones hit people with punches they didn't see coming and Kov doesn't have great upperbody or head movement
I usually try to be really nice on here, and just keep to myself period over the past 10 years.. But keep this thread going to expose the ignorance in here, and damn I do mean that with no offense bu Kovalev has no shot against a prime RJJ, like this should not have been asked for in the first place but now that it has it needs to remain.
Please explain how he has no shot...
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