Where does the concern of Usada Vs Vada come from?

I don't get where the issues or concern stem from. I do. I'll sum it up for you: Residual ass pain from KTFO6. That's it. That's all it is.

lol... comedy

You got to admire Marquez's right hand. It turned every tard into a ped expert over night. NSAC doing their job used to be better than random tests. NSAC tests right after the fight doe

simple your analogy is flawed as hell see below post. The entire premise is absurd to begin with, no organization is going to have a 100% success rate. People are constantly innovating new methods of cheating. Victor Conte (founding consultant of VADA) has gone on record saying the manufacturers are always at least a decade ahead of the testers. Do you agree with VADA that USADA is the gold standard of testing?

USADA isnt real testing, but its a non issue at this point Didn't VADA say that USADA is the gold standard of testing, that makes both testing agency useless.

What part of that is too complex for you to understand? The purpose of random testing is as much to act as a deterrent as it is to actively catch cheaters. The whole idea is that if you don't know when the testers are coming, you're less likely to be cheating. simple your analogy is flawed as hell see below post. If a drug dealer walked into a police station with crack in his pocket would the cops not find it after looking through the coat? Not great analogies...they had the stuff running through their bodies while being tested and didn't come up positive. That's a knock on USADA..

If a drug dealer walked into a police station with crack in his pocket would the cops not find it after looking through the coat? Not great analogies...they had the stuff running through their bodies while being tested and didn't come up positive. That's a knock on USADA.. Plenty of people get searched with drugs on them and not have them found, it has happened to me before. Athletes and drug manufacturers are constantly coming up with new ways to cheat. Just because testing isn't 100% doesn't mean we should just give up and not test at all. We have no idea how many athletes across all sports test clean but are cheating. The same goes for VADA, PADA, USADA, any testing organization.

How many crimes does a criminal commit before they're finally caught for one? How many drugs does a drug dealer sell before he gets busted? How many times does the drunk drive home from the bar before he finally gets a DUI? If a drug dealer walked into a police station with crack in his pocket would the cops not find it after looking through the coat? Not great analogies...they had the stuff running through their bodies while being tested and didn't come up positive. That's a knock on USADA..

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/3/3b/Paris_Tuileries_Garden_Facepalm_statue.jpg What part of that is too complex for you to understand? The purpose of random testing is as much to act as a deterrent as it is to actively catch cheaters. The whole idea is that if you don't know when the testers are coming, you're less likely to be cheating.

How many crimes does a criminal commit before they're finally caught for one? How many drugs does a drug dealer sell before he gets busted? How many times does the drunk drive home from the bar before he finally gets a DUI? http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/3/3b/Paris_Tuileries_Garden_Facepalm_statue.jpg

All the time being tested and beating the tests each time lol. Yeah, way to go USADA... How many crimes does a criminal commit before they're finally caught for one? How many drugs does a drug dealer sell before he gets busted? How many times does the drunk drive home from the bar before he finally gets a DUI?

Ignorance is a disease. Listing names of athletes who were cheating and chase by USADA actually makes them even more credible, they chase them till the day they got banned and jailed. All the time being tested and beating the tests each time lol. Yeah, way to go USADA...

Ignorance is a disease. Listing names of athletes who were cheating and chase by USADA actually makes them even more credible, they chase them till the day they got banned and jailed.

Boom. That's pretty conclusive. I knew nothing about this before but that seems pretty clear and simple.

if pacman were to test dirty, these same people would claim it's a set up. they're metnally ill people, or just trolls.

This is exactly the reason that people were originally against it. VADA wasn't even around when Floyd originally wanted the USADA drug testing and people were instantly against USADA, wanting WADA testing instead. Well WADA are USADA so those people are idiots.

Well just wait for their excuses (Reasons), first they would claim USADA "Destroy" samples taken from boxers, or they would claim VADA catches more people, or they would claim CIR is not been used as part of the testing procedure at USADA or they help Mayweather when he "failed" 3 tests, and those info are provided by a "Well known" journalist so his credibility cannot be questioned. But looking at it without our rose tinted glasses? There is no problem with either testing agencies because both are out there testing randomly. Most fan boys would argue against that doe.

This is exactly the reason that people were originally against it. VADA wasn't even around when Floyd originally wanted the USADA drug testing and people were instantly against USADA, wanting WADA testing instead. what does any of this have to do with the thread? lol

"But you're only against it because Floyd uses it", lol. This is exactly the reason that people were originally against it. VADA wasn't even around when Floyd originally wanted the USADA drug testing and people were instantly against USADA, wanting WADA testing instead.

It all boils down to how each entity test their samples and how they handle a dirty sample. Vada test for things USADA does not hence why VADA has caught more then USADA and have test less fighter todate then USADA. VADA report failed drug test to the Boxing commission. USADA report failed drug test to the Promoter/Boxer who hired them. VADA does not allow a doctors note USADA allows doctors note (which basically mean you can exceed the legal ratio for banned substance if you have a doctors note saying you taking it) This is why Erik Morales failed a drug test 1 month pior and no one knew about it till it leaked, USADA tested Morales and he failed and USADA reported the failed drug test to GBP and GBP tried to hide it and keep it under wraps till that information got leaked. The Boxing Commission had no Knowledge of Morales Failed Drug Test. So GBP was gonna keep it quiet and let the fight go on(it did anyways) and not report the Failed Drug Test to anyone. Same thing happened with Quillen and Winky, Quillen failed USADA drug test but since USADA doesnt report the failed test to the boxing commission but instead to the promoter and in this case GBP, GBP just scrapped the entire drug test and order USADA to destroy the samples. Fight went on and Quillen escaped a failed drug test. VADA reports the failed drug test to the boxing commission directly, This is why GBP, TMT do not like to work with VADA and have blackballed VADA. A fall out happened with GBP and VADA over how they report the failed drug test, they wanted VADA to report it to them only but thats is not how VADA works. That is the difference. Broken down perfectly. /thread