Boxingscene just released an article of Miguel Cotto blasting Bob Arum and Top Rank, where he opens a can of worms. Basically, he revealed what smart insightful viewers of the sport has known for 6 plus years now. Bob Arum is running a game of cheats and lies to rob fighters and keep all the money to himself. I must give one man credit for telling it blatant to the world, Floyd Mayweather Jr. Back in 2009, when he returned to the sport being led by the image of Manny Pacquiao, he was doing many interviews exposing the shadowy world of boxing.
This interview I have saved in my youtube favorites, is such a prolific message to what happened over the course of six years. Pacquiao broke and owing taxes due to a dummy slave contract, Top Rank in house fights, Bob Arum controlling Pacquiao actions... All of these things and more he stated in this interview have been proven over time. Floyd Mayweather's insightful and intelligence is actually underrated, people love to credit Al Haymon for his success and his business acumen, but this guy is definitely on his own plateau.
I know many of you Pacquiao fans will not listen to the interview due to a lack of intelligence and objectivity, but it is owed to yourself to open your mind and realize the truth. Floyd was sitting here schooling you fools on the business of boxing and even gave Pacquiao props and was showing some concern about him being taken advantage of on the business side of things.
arum and Floyd are very much alike...they are both liars and compulsive at it too, both are really big bul****ters that's why the cant stand eachother...opposites attract
Pacquiao knows Arum is a liar, yet still let himself be put in a slave contract and not only know but sign himself on extensions to it over and over and over again. He also was very aware of Arum not wanting to make the Mayweather fight and was always willing to do his part to keep up the facade. It wasn't until Mayweather cornered him and Konzc at the heat game and told them to stop lying with people in ear distance for them to tighten up, man up, and actually get the fight in progress.
The Flomos need to stop with all the Arum stuff, where's the problem with Arum now? Floyd signed on the dotted line.
It was just an excuse all along like all the other excuses but he has indoctrinated his cult following for so many years that they just won't let it go.
http://i.usatoday.net/sports/_photos/2011/02/09/Floyd%20and%20bobx-large.jpg
Using an image from way back is not helping your deflection. Fact of the matter is that Konzc confirmed that Bob Arum, HIM and PACQUIAO all were lying about the fight and it's progress. So just stop... You're a Hatton fan without a brain.
How exactly did Floyd trap Pac at the Heat game? Arum had to get Moonves involved in order to facilitate negotiations.
He hit you with all those other questions and your reply is a question about one of his statements (that doesn't have any actual proof I concede) lol...
You guys are good at deflecting issues
The Flomos need to stop with all the Arum stuff, where's the problem with Arum now? Floyd signed on the dotted line.
It was just an excuse all along like all the other excuses but he has indoctrinated his cult following for so many years that they just won't let it go.
http://i.usatoday.net/sports/_photos/2011/02/09/Floyd%20and%20bobx-large.jpg
arum and Floyd are very much alike...they are both liars and compulsive at it too, both are really big bul****ters that's why the cant stand eachother...opposites attract
everyone knows arum is a scumbag.
i just dont like your logic:
you are asserting.
arum is a scumbag
thus
manny is avoiding floyd
arum is a scumbag
thus
floyd is honest.
why dont you reply directly to me?
big dunn is a paid poster.
you can ask for his sympathy- it is paid in advance anyway.
No I am not asserting anything. My thread title and summary is straight forward to the point. Bob Arum scheme's on his boxers have been revealed back in 2009. Cotto recently came out with an interview alluding to some sort of scheme and theivery going on with his money while dealing with Top Rank and Bob Arum. This thread is basically giving more light to Cotto's start of that discussion. Manny Pacquiao financial ruin and hardship is also hard evidence to the claim made by Cotto. It's astonishing how you guys just enjoy being ignorant fools.
Arum didn't get Moonves involved in anything. The waiter talked to Mooves and Freddy then Freddy go them together. Big difference.
Exactly. Freddy Roach gave himself credit for getting in contact with Les Moonves to contact Bob Arum. Bob Arum didn't do anything but sabotage the fight over and over and over. These Pacquiao fans are a bunch of nincompoops.
It's general knowledge that Bradley, Marquez and Rios are now millionaires. You can't say that about Maidana, Guerrero, Ortiz, Canelo...
If Arum is a shark, Mayweather is a snake. Rios got $4 million in his Pac fight, while Maidana got $1 million, lower than what Thurman, Broner, Guerrero got in their last fights. HYUUUGE difference.
Stop this nonsense. Go hang yourselves, floydiots.
You the biggest nincompoop on Boxingscene.com for even trying to pass off three Top Rank fighters as though they really got paid that amount of money, being in a slave contract. Not only do fighters get their actual guarantee fighting Floyd, but they get money on that backend. That means they get a monthly income in excess of six figures.
It's general knowledge that Bradley, Marquez and Rios are now millionaires. You can't say that about Maidana, Guerrero, Ortiz, Canelo...
If Arum is a shark, Mayweather is a snake. Rios got $4 million in his Pac fight, while Maidana got $1 million, lower than what Thurman, Broner, Guerrero got in their last fights. HYUUUGE difference.
Stop this nonsense. Go hang yourselves, floydiots.
why are you using Rios' total purse and comparing it to Maidana's guarantee for your argument? why not use Maidana's total purse? It's as if you have an agenda.
It's general knowledge that Bradley, Marquez and Rios are now millionaires. You can't say that about Maidana, Guerrero, Ortiz, Canelo...
If Arum is a shark, Mayweather is a snake. Rios got $4 million in his Pac fight, while Maidana got $1 million, lower than what Thurman, Broner, Guerrero got in their last fights. HYUUUGE difference.
Stop this nonsense. Go hang yourselves, floydiots.
How exactly did Floyd trap Pac at the Heat game? Arum had to get Moonves involved in order to facilitate negotiations.
Arum didn't get Moonves involved in anything. The waiter talked to Mooves and Freddy then Freddy go them together. Big difference.
Please tell me why these cunts responding to my thread with their personal bias still can not see that after Arum been exposed several times in the first two months of the year?
These idiots are still giving Arum credit, saying he got the fight to happen through Les Moonves... Someone post that interview of Moonves essentially explaining it's not up to him. Also everyone post the the links of Konzc blaming Arum for holding up the fight and telling lies.
Then Cotton just came out saying Arum run purse schemes on his fighters. I post a video of Floyd exposing this scheme and how Arum got Pacquiao in the worst deal in boxing. Yet these idiots still taking Arum word
You are not going to get a certain segment of posters who love Manny/hate floyd to say anything negative about Manny or anyone associated with him nor will they say anything positive about Floyd.
Is what it is. They can pretend otherwise, but if you are a "star" and have cultivated a fanbase, your best bet is to leave Bob because if the shoe was on the other foot, he'd do to them just what he did to Rigo.
Please tell me why these cunts responding to my thread with their personal bias still can not see that after Arum been exposed several times in the first two months of the year?
These idiots are still giving Arum credit, saying he got the fight to happen through Les Moonves... Someone post that interview of Moonves essentially explaining it's not up to him. Also everyone post the the links of Konzc blaming Arum for holding up the fight and telling lies.
Then Cotton just came out saying Arum run purse schemes on his fighters. I post a video of Floyd exposing this scheme and how Arum got Pacquiao in the worst deal in boxing. Yet these idiots still taking Arum word
everyone knows arum is a scumbag.
i just dont like your logic:
you are asserting.
arum is a scumbag
thus
manny is avoiding floyd
arum is a scumbag
thus
floyd is honest.
why dont you reply directly to me?
big dunn is a paid poster.
you can ask for his sympathy- it is paid in advance anyway.
All you need to know about Bob is ODH and Floyd left him-and both began to earn at the rate of athletes who also transcended their sport.
I can't see any reason a true "star" boxer would stay with an old school promoter or promotional company in this era.
Please tell me why these cunts responding to my thread with their personal bias still can not see that after Arum been exposed several times in the first two months of the year?
These idiots are still giving Arum credit, saying he got the fight to happen through Les Moonves... Someone post that interview of Moonves essentially explaining it's not up to him. Also everyone post the the links of Konzc blaming Arum for holding up the fight and telling lies.
Then Cotton just came out saying Arum run purse schemes on his fighters. I post a video of Floyd exposing this scheme and how Arum got Pacquiao in the worst deal in boxing. Yet these idiots still taking Arum word
How is Floyd a punk, when it's been shown, he's always been telling the truth you imbecile.
both of these on video.
Floyd: Yes Pacquiao, you're NEXT!
Floyd: No I didn't say that.
:lol1:
I truly appreciate it when I see corruption exposed.
Bob Arum is a pure scumbag and Floyd if you read this, Thank you.
People need to pay attention to what Floyd is really saying,
the fighters should be in control of their careers, this has inspired
many as you now see, Canelo, Khan, and many other boxers promoting
and co promoting fights instead of receiving peanuts.
How is Floyd a punk, when it's been shown, he's always been telling the truth you imbecile.
You need to move on from that mindset because it's tired, the one who got the fight done was Floyd Mayweather. Did you missed the countless interviews by Freddy Roach who placed the blame on Pacquiao himself for not getting the fight done back in 2009. Also Freddy Roach just recently said in Boxingscene article that he picked Floyd Mayweather to beat Pacquiao back in 2009.
You looking real stupid right now.
I didn't credit Floyd with any accomplishment that another man did, but what he has accomplished alone. This interview is 6 years old and has come to reality over time. You are idiot for even placing blame on Floyd for the fight not getting done, when it was Arum and Pac doing the ducking the whole time, until Floyd trapped them at the basketball Heat game. You mad?
What Floyd lied about in this interview? What did Floyd lie about in particular of the fight getting made? I bet you won't answer this.
Freddie Roach blames Pacquiao for not accepting the blood test back in 2009. Also he recently came out and he said back in 2009 he favored Mayweather to beat Pacquiao.
Pacquiao and Arum made outlandish demands on weight penalties, gloves, ring size, and many more. Floyd signed the contract, gave them 50/50/ and only asked for a blood test. They act like they was going to do it, then ducked the fight. Who's really the liar? Pacquiao and Bob Arum.
Even this year Pacquiao has been proven to be a slave and liar. Floyd Mayweather confronted him and told him to stop lying. Now the fight is made. Look at my signature.. You can tell Pacquiao couldn't deny what Mayweather was telling him because it was the cold truth about the snakeness that Arum put him up to.
roach blames pacquiao? is that from the dontaenation interview. understanding it within the context of the whole interview it means " we are to blame for the fight not happening in 2009 because floyd is such a diva when we offer 3 weeks cut off date- floyd left the negotiation like a little child" also on the same interview roach said that floyd does not want to fight manny ever since regardless that hey agreed to the blood testing no cut-off date.
outlandish demands for gloves? manny requested 4 oz gloves? they will use 8 oz gloves just like other welterweights.
outlandish demands for weight penalties? how many times did floyd gone overweight at welterweight.
outlandish demand for ring size? manny requested 5x5 ring? or they will be using the official ring size without special deduction or increase in the normal size.
roach already stated manny would beat floyd back in 2009. (would you believe that or just be selective in picking up statement that fits your agenda)
did you even consider roach is playing mind games " as mayweather fans has said "never believe roach when the fight is on"
koncz approach floyd first in the heat game. same thing as my avatar- koncz going to mayweathers gym to offer floyd the fight" unfortunately floyd is not thinking about boxing at the time" and no cameras.
yes or no?
1. are floyd and manny camp in conversation before the heatgame
-yes
2.are they discussing the fight
-yes
3.did manny make it known to floyd that he accepted floyds demands before the heat game meet up even occur
-if manny agreed to everything floyd demanded is that the same as signing the contract.
-incidentally manny has shown a signed contract with his signature on it without floyds signature( that is a void contract without floyd signature) is it right that floyd should send the sign contract to manny because floyd got the demands that manny agreed to. because the conversation should normally go like this. FLOYD(send demand to manny) -MANNY (send paper to floyd that he agrees ) FLOYD(send signed contract to manny because his demands was okeyed) see the back and fourth pattern.
what floyd lies and alibis?
1.40m flat rate. only floyd fans agrees that it is acceptable. floyd knows it is not acceptable so he revised the offer to 40 percent or about 80 m plus ppv.
2, he is not working with arum. he is working with arum right now because:
a. pacquiao joining tmt
b.pacquaio leaving arum
is an alibi that has serve its purpose of ducking manny for 5 years.
3.pacquiao got bradley and marquez problem.
-pacquiao still got marquezs problem, why he is fighting him doe( an alibi that serve it usefulness at that time)
and im the one looking stupid? i think you should research more so you could get a grasp of what is happening.
and pls reply within the hour. i cant wait for your reply for another six hour again.
Be real most guys who left TR with money including the ungrateful Cuntto. The smarter one invested their money wisely and made more. Mayweather had problems due to his spending. not defending Bob but be honest.
All you need to know about Bob is ODH and Floyd left him-and both began to earn at the rate of athletes who also transcended their sport.
I can't see any reason a true "star" boxer would stay with an old school promoter or promotional company in this era.
How is Floyd a punk, when it's been shown, he's always been telling the truth you imbecile.
You need to move on from that mindset because it's tired, the one who got the fight done was Floyd Mayweather. Did you missed the countless interviews by Freddy Roach who placed the blame on Pacquiao himself for not getting the fight done back in 2009. Also Freddy Roach just recently said in Boxingscene article that he picked Floyd Mayweather to beat Pacquiao back in 2009.
You looking real stupid right now.
I didn't credit Floyd with any accomplishment that another man did, but what he has accomplished alone. This interview is 6 years old and has come to reality over time. You are idiot for even placing blame on Floyd for the fight not getting done, when it was Arum and Pac doing the ducking the whole time, until Floyd trapped them at the basketball Heat game. You mad?
What Floyd lied about in this interview? What did Floyd lie about in particular of the fight getting made? I bet you won't answer this.
Freddie Roach blames Pacquiao for not accepting the blood test back in 2009. Also he recently came out and he said back in 2009 he favored Mayweather to beat Pacquiao.
Pacquiao and Arum made outlandish demands on weight penalties, gloves, ring size, and many more. Floyd signed the contract, gave them 50/50/ and only asked for a blood test. They act like they was going to do it, then ducked the fight. Who's really the liar? Pacquiao and Bob Arum.
Even this year Pacquiao has been proven to be a slave and liar. Floyd Mayweather confronted him and told him to stop lying. Now the fight is made. Look at my signature.. You can tell Pacquiao couldn't deny what Mayweather was telling him because it was the cold truth about the snakeness that Arum put him up to.
How exactly did Floyd trap Pac at the Heat game? Arum had to get Moonves involved in order to facilitate negotiations.
Bob arum is a liar and floyds a punk, we all know this...now move on....
How is Floyd a punk, when it's been shown, he's always been telling the truth you imbecile.
You need to move on from that mindset because it's tired, the one who got the fight done was Floyd Mayweather. Did you missed the countless interviews by Freddy Roach who placed the blame on Pacquiao himself for not getting the fight done back in 2009. Also Freddy Roach just recently said in Boxingscene article that he picked Floyd Mayweather to beat Pacquiao back in 2009.
You looking real stupid right now.
Everyone knows capitalist pigs can't be trusted. Get off your knees and stop crediting Floyd with every accomplishment. ****ing pathetic.
I didn't credit Floyd with any accomplishment that another man did, but what he has accomplished alone. This interview is 6 years old and has come to reality over time. You are idiot for even placing blame on Floyd for the fight not getting done, when it was Arum and Pac doing the ducking the whole time, until Floyd trapped them at the basketball Heat game. You mad?
Getting Floyd to talk against Arum is like asking a devil to call another devil a liar. You don't know who to believe and if eventually both are just teaming up to get your soul.
What Floyd lied about in this interview? What did Floyd lie about in particular of the fight getting made? I bet you won't answer this.
i thought he would really fight pacquiao in 2009. in that interview he havent showned any indication that he would ask for random blood testing- he havent done it in any of his fights, it was rather spontaneous.
but there is already an excuse before even the plan of negotiation. and it wasn't blood testing.
Freddie Roach blames Pacquiao for not accepting the blood test back in 2009. Also he recently came out and he said back in 2009 he favored Mayweather to beat Pacquiao.
Pacquiao and Arum made outlandish demands on weight penalties, gloves, ring size, and many more. Floyd signed the contract, gave them 50/50/ and only asked for a blood test. They act like they was going to do it, then ducked the fight. Who's really the liar? Pacquiao and Bob Arum.
Even this year Pacquiao has been proven to be a slave and liar. Floyd Mayweather confronted him and told him to stop lying. Now the fight is made. Look at my signature.. You can tell Pacquiao couldn't deny what Mayweather was telling him because it was the cold truth about the snakeness that Arum put him up to.
Boxingscene just released an article of Miguel Cotto blasting Bob Arum and Top Rank, where he opens a can of worms. Basically, he revealed what smart insightful viewers of the sport has known for 6 plus years now. Bob Arum is running a game of cheats and lies to rob fighters and keep all the money to himself. I must give one man credit for telling it blatant to the world, Floyd Mayweather Jr. Back in 2009, when he returned to the sport being led by the image of Manny Pacquiao, he was doing many interviews exposing the shadowy world of boxing.
This interview I have saved in my youtube favorites, is such a prolific message to what happened over the course of six years. Pacquiao broke and owing taxes due to a dummy slave contract, Top Rank in house fights, Bob Arum controlling Pacquiao actions... All of these things and more he stated in this interview have been proven over time. Floyd Mayweather's insightful and intelligence is actually underrated, people love to credit Al Haymon for his success and his business acumen, but this guy is definitely on his own plateau.
I know many of you Pacquiao fans will not listen to the interview due to a lack of intelligence and objectivity, but it is owed to yourself to open your mind and realize the truth. Floyd was sitting here schooling you fools on the business of boxing and even gave Pacquiao props and was showing some concern about him being taken advantage of on the business side of things.
i thought he would really fight pacquiao in 2009. in that interview he havent showned any indication that he would ask for random blood testing- he havent done it in any of his fights, it was rather spontaneous.
but there is already an excuse before even the plan of negotiation. and it wasn't blood testing.
Getting Floyd to talk against Arum is like asking a devil to call another devil a liar. You don't know who to believe and if eventually both are just teaming up to get your soul.