Tyson Fury has a much better chin than Wladimir Klitschko

Clitchko was ball bagged by a semi professional golfer.

I've liked Fury for a long time. I'm a big fan of Hennesey, they know fan friendly fighters, Froch, Fury....Galahad's coming along well I thought Fury had blown his chance of a career after rejecting Steward as a trainer. I felt Steward would guarantee Fury success at HW. This was before Peter Fury came on the scene, what a difference. Fury is looking so strong now & is only improving. He's fighting smarter than ever & learning his craft. The fight with Wlad will be a huge step up in class. Wlad is underrated, he's brilliant at what he does If Fury can set the pace of the fight & get Wlad's respect then he's well on the way to an upset. Fury can brawl but Wlad is refined, he can take that step back always maintaining distance. If Wlad is able to control the distance then he'll eventually punch through Fury With Steward(RIP) in his corner there's no way Fury would beat Wlad at present. With Banks & Peter Fury doing the work respectively it's far more open I'd love Fury to win. If Fury won he would instantly become a great & favourite in the division. I'd also hope that he'd leave Haye out in the cold & force Haye to take 3 tough fights to test himself finally a fury fan with some good sound reasoning behind opinions. well done dude. should be a good tough fight

I've liked Fury for a long time. I'm a big fan of Hennesey, they know fan friendly fighters, Froch, Fury....Galahad's coming along well I thought Fury had blown his chance of a career after rejecting Steward as a trainer. I felt Steward would guarantee Fury success at HW. This was before Peter Fury came on the scene, what a difference. Fury is looking so strong now & is only improving. He's fighting smarter than ever & learning his craft. The fight with Wlad will be a huge step up in class. Wlad is underrated, he's brilliant at what he does If Fury can set the pace of the fight & get Wlad's respect then he's well on the way to an upset. Fury can brawl but Wlad is refined, he can take that step back always maintaining distance. If Wlad is able to control the distance then he'll eventually punch through Fury With Steward(RIP) in his corner there's no way Fury would beat Wlad at present. With Banks & Peter Fury doing the work respectively it's far more open I'd love Fury to win. If Fury won he would instantly become a great & favourite in the division. I'd also hope that he'd leave Haye out in the cold & force Haye to take 3 tough fights to test himself

Sanders obliterates Fury. Peter probably beats him too. Fury has been matched carefully to date - against small, feather-fisted punchers. LOL yeah just like he obliterated Nate Tubbs and Hasim Rahman :lol1: Sanders was a 40/1 underdog for a good reason. A fat bloated one trick pony with no defense, glass chin, terrible cardio and overrated power. He was a fringe contender at best. Sanders just exposed some things about Wlad: He's scared of getting hit, he can't fight or think when he's hurt, his chin is glass, he has no ability whatsoever to fight on the backfoot and he lacks heart. Peter was terrible as well, an extremely slow 2 bit brawler who had no defense and couldn't box to save his life. Peter was outboxed by a 40yr old obese MW and never KO'd a top 25 HW in his entire career. The Fury of today beats the version of those guys when they fought Wlad handily. He'll also beat Wlad if Wlad decides to honour his mando and fight him later this year. Tyson hasn't even come close to his peak either at only 26yrs old, he's improving every fight.

I made this thread to challenge the fanboys who continue to claim Wlad has a better chin when statistics clearly do not support this. Klitschko has been dropped more than 6x as much and stopped 3x as much as Fury. His fans then claim that it's because Wlad's fought more fights but Wlad was dropped and KO'd more in near the same amount of fights that Fury has had against overall weaker competition. They will talk up the men who dropped and KO'd Wlad as if they were some fearsome powerpunching great fighters but the truth is they were mediocrities. Purrity was a bum with a 31-20 career record and 50% KO Sanders was an old fat chinless 4 round fighter who in spite of spending his entire career fighting a long line of tomato cans in south Africa only had a 67% KO. Notoriously glass chinned Hasim Rahman absorbed all of the hardest blows from Sanders and KO'd him. Wlad was the only world class HW that Sanders ever KO'd. Brewster was one of the most awful titleists in the worst period in the history of the division. He was beaten by Clifford ****ing Etienne, only notable win was beating a shot 37 yr old Golota. Peter never KO'd a top 25 HW in his entire career and needed a robbery to beat a 40yr old obese MW. Fury is lightyears better than any of these bums and would have beaten all of them easily. Wlad's chin is still the same as it's always been he just fights very safety first clinches excessively and refuses to engage. Sanders obliterates Fury. Peter probably beats him too. Fury has been matched carefully to date - against small, feather-fisted punchers.

Klitschko would ko this bum.

What is Wladimir going to do? Is he going to do what is necessary to beat Fury that is aggressively stalk him, force him on the back foot, take risks and fight on the inside of the bigger man's reach in order to try and score a stoppage? No of course he won't, he's no Lennox Lewis. He hasn't the skills nor the balls to do any of that. personally,,I see this going very much like his first fight with tony thompson. he'll have some struggles with fury's range and awckwardness but will eventually crack thru and take fury out

What is Wladimir going to do? Is he going to do what is necessary to beat Fury that is aggressively stalk him, force him on the back foot, take risks and fight on the inside of the bigger man's reach in order to try and score a stoppage? No of course he won't, he's no Lennox Lewis. He hasn't the skills nor the balls to do any of that.

I made this thread to challenge the fanboys who continue to claim Wlad has a better chin when statistics clearly do not support this. Klitschko has been dropped more than 6x as much and stopped 3x as much as Fury. His fans then claim that it's because Wlad's fought more fights but Wlad was dropped and KO'd more in near the same amount of fights that Fury has had against overall weaker competition. They will talk up the men who dropped and KO'd Wlad as if they were some fearsome powerpunching great fighters but the truth is they were mediocrities. Purrity was a bum with a 31-20 career record and 50% KO Sanders was an old fat chinless 4 round fighter who in spite of spending his entire career fighting a long line of tomato cans in south Africa only had a 67% KO. Notoriously glass chinned Hasim Rahman absorbed all of the hardest blows from Sanders and KO'd him. Wlad was the only world class HW that Sanders ever KO'd. Brewster was one of the most awful titleists in the worst period in the history of the division. He was beaten by Clifford ****ing Etienne, only notable win was beating a shot 37 yr old Golota. Peter never KO'd a top 25 HW in his entire career and needed a robbery to beat a 40yr old obese MW. Fury is lightyears better than any of these bums and would have beaten all of them easily. Wlad's chin is still the same as it's always been he just fights very safety first clinches excessively and refuses to engage.

Chisora has power. He's the only guy ever to drop Kevin Johnson. I'm not going to say that Fury has a better chin than Wlad, but there is no evidence at all that his chin is any worse. That doesn't mean much. Johnson was way past his best, unmotivated, and still went on to recover from that shot and finish the fight. It was a flash knockdown from what I recall. And Chisora can only use his power v shorter guys he can reach. He simply couldn't reach Fury to land anything meaningful at all. And in general Chisora isn't a puncher. While Fury's chin might not be worse, that's not the point of this thread. I am disproving the notion Wlad has an evidently much weaker chin than Fury, which is simply not the case.

Klitschko-Fury will be the most talked about HW fight in many years. It will be a major sports event in UK and mainland Europe, and receive a fair amount of media coverage in the USA as well. Prediction for the fight if it happens?

He KO'd iron chinned Steve Cunningham(whose never been KO'd before or since) Kevin Johnson, Derek Chisora 2x(who Wlad ducked) etc. He was supposed to fight David Haye but Haye pulled out of the fight 2x by faking injuries. He performed much better against Johnson and Chisora than Vitali did. He can string together fast combinations and throws from many angles, very active hard body puncher(he broke up Hammer's ribs forcing him to quit). His stamina is fantastic for a HW. Throws 70/80 punches a round without a problem. Could easily fight a 15 round fight. He's far more loose than Wlad who fights like a stiff robot. Under trainer Peter Fury his footwork and defense have improve tremendously to the point that he is nearly unhittable now. He's one of the only HWs in boxing history who can fight both orthodox and southpaw at world level with equal efficiency His punching power is also very underrated. He has a 75% KO and Johnson said Fury hit harder than Vitali. As Wlad's N.1 mandatory he's gunning for his opportunity to take the titles away from him. Hopefully he doesn't avoid Fury for a 3rd time but i think he will. LOL, so now he hits harder than Wladimir? :lol1:

possibly ... but then so did Wach, Pulev and Povetkin. Wlad beat them all.

Fury got dropped hard by a cruiserweight FFS :boxing:

Chisora has power. He's the only guy ever to drop Kevin Johnson. I'm not going to say that Fury has a better chin than Wlad, but there is no evidence at all that his chin is any worse. That says more about where Johnson was at that stage. Chisora is not a puncher, at all.

A guy that uppercuts himself and has to be told by a referee how to throw a jab = "more naturally skilled and talented" than a 10 year dominant world-class champion who has one of the most textbook and powerful jabs, straights, and left hooks of all time. Seems legit. 'Heart' is not the willingness to be reckless and fight inside. Heart is dealing with extreme adversity and coming back from hopeless situations. Fury is the better brawler and maybe more natural 'fighter', but as a boxer it is simply incomparable. Wlad has fought a lot better opponents and been dropped by real heavyweights with power, and come back. Fury's chin has never really been tested, he hasn't fought a single fighter with great knockout power. The occasions where Wlad was knocked down all came in just a handful of fights, namely 3 in the Peter fight, 4 in the Sanders fight, 2 in the Brewster fights. Wlad has never failed to rise from a knockdown. That's heart in my book. No-one says Wlad has a great chin, but he simply wouldn't be champ for this long if he had the level of glass as some try to say. A lot of his issues that led to his losses were exhaustion, and to say Fury has a better chin from the pathetic opposition he has faced so far for the most part is just ridiculous. Chisora has power. He's the only guy ever to drop Kevin Johnson. I'm not going to say that Fury has a better chin than Wlad, but there is no evidence at all that his chin is any worse.

The people who stunned & dropped Fury are of much lower caliber than even the guys that stopped WK early in his career. Cunningham and Chisora are not much lower calibre than the guys who KO'd Wlad. Lamon Brewster won a version of the world title at a time when the overall standard of heavyweight boxing was the lowest it's ever been. No way would he win a title today and no way would he KO Tyson Fury. The Fury we saw in his last 2 fights would have beaten Brewster and Sanders pretty easily, imo.

No Wlad punches way harder anyway

Most of Klitschko's success relies on his ability to clinch his opponent. He clinches nearly as much as he boxes nowadays. He physically won't be able to clinch the bigger man and Fury won't let him. If Wlad tries hugging to take a breather, he's going to be taking hard bodyshots and uppercuts for his troubles. I have a hard time seeing Wlad doing well anywhere the fight goes.

end of thread right here. wlads knockdowns have either come from late round fatigue or from heavy handed punchers while fury has been dropped early by light hitters. its just ridiculous to think fury does anything better than wlad including taking a punch. fury is a descent fighter with a big heart. wlad is a great fighter with a big heart. no comparison at this point whatsoever Most of the times Wlad's been dropped were early in fights. Yes sometimes he went down from a combination of being rocked and tired but him getting tired is not an excuse for him not being able to stay on his feet. His poor stamina is just another weakness on top of him having a very weak chin. We can even look at the opposition Klitschko gets dropped and KO'd by. Ross Purrity was a bum who finished with a 31-20 record and only has a 50% KO was getting easily beaten by just about everybody who was decent. That's a guy that Fury would beat easily and he wouldn't gas out like Wlad. Then we have the mythical Corrie Sanders whose name increasingly grows in legend with each passing year. Even a notoriously glass chinned Hasim Rahman took all of Sanders' hardest punches for several rounds and came back and KO'd him. Sanders was a weak chinned one trick pony who basically could only fight for 4 rounds. Despite fighting solely against trialhorses, journeymen and bums, Sanders only has a 67% KO. The only world class fighter Sanders ever KO'd was Wlad. Sam Peter never KO'd a top 25 fighter in his entire career. You can talk about a guy like Cunningham being featherfisted but he was the only man to stop the very durable Marco Huck and he dropped big HW Amir Mansour. The shot that he caught Fury with was clearly the best shot he ever landed clean in his entire career. It was a hell of shot but Fury got up and then beat up and KO'd Cunningham. Apart from the chin argument(for which there is no evidence that Wlad has the better chin but an argument that he has a worse one) I can't agree with this second point you make. Do you really believe Klitschko has: better stamina/workrate bodypunching switch hitting in fighting footwork mobility handspeed punch variation etc compared to Fury? You would be just deluding yourself because it clearly is not the case. I would go as far to say the highly vaunted jab the Wlad possesses is not what it once was. He paws with it and stiff arms far more than he actually snaps the jab out. Against a fighter of equal reach in Pulev his jab was virtually useless. Against Fury who has a significantly longer reach and can switch southpaw that jab will be useless.