The HBO GGG opponent list for May

Right now GGG is best 160 in the world, it has a little to do with his record but it has more to do with Methods & Techniques! His Methodology is to avoid judges opinions, his techniques are geared for tko & KO. To me he is refreshing as hell in a boxing world filled with cherrypickers and counter move/counter punch guys who fight "cautiously" another word for lack of confidence. You know where he's going at the bell and until someone steps up and derails him he's the Middleweight Champ and anyone who dismisses him knows very little about this sport & business. The haters aren't use to seeing a guy who has destuction on his mind or they fear him because their next "favorite" might face him. :boxing: Action fighter, how unique! Ray.

Jackson, Allen and Echols are better than anyone on the Triple Duck's resume... How do you know?

I haven't seen Golovkin pull out all the stops on anything. Hopkins did things his way, sure it screwed him in a lot of ways but he was always trying to do something. Sure he has tried to get some fights, but there is a difference between going out and making something occur for himself or waiting for something to fall into his lap. Golovkin has been content to sit and wait to let something fall into his lap, I get why it is happening but with no one else is that anywhere close to cool. Fights that don't happen are fights that don't happen you don't get credit for them just because they didn't take place. His team, maybe he should find a new team~ What are all the stops? He's offered to go up in weight and to his opponent's countries, he offered to be 'D' side for Cotto. What other fighters with the recognition that Golovkin has are willing to do that? Now a days you get a guy who wins a couple so-so fights like a Quillin, Santa Cruz, or Andrade, it's suddenly all about the 'right' money. I don't get how you consider him to just be sitting around when he's as active as he is against the best willing. Total opposite of the majority of fighters in the past decade. That's why he stays in the good grace of most people. When Golovkin had a dispute with Universum, rather than sit and pout like Ward he went and fought in Panama for next to nothing. Bernard Hopkins, who I was tremendous fan of during his run, would often sit & b*tch until a golden opportunity would fall into his lap. During his run prior to Holmes, he only ever fought 3 Ring top 10 MW's -JDJ (a very dubious ranking!), Allen, and Echols. He nearly refused to fight Echols because he thought he should be earning a million dollars for it, instead was fighting for around $200k on Fox Sports. If the IBF hadn't mandated the fight he would've sat out. After Trinidad he nearly committed career suicide turning down multiple big fights and getting sued by former promoter DiBella & his own trainer. As a fan of both Hopkins & Golovkin, both have brought me a ton of frustration but for different reasons. With Gennady it's because he hasn't been able to land the top opponents because they don't want to fight him. With Hopkins it was because his own crazy paranoia that people were trying to screw him over.

I haven't seen Golovkin pull out all the stops on anything. Hopkins did things his way, sure it screwed him in a lot of ways but he was always trying to do something. Sure he has tried to get some fights, but there is a difference between going out and making something occur for himself or waiting for something to fall into his lap. Golovkin has been content to sit and wait to let something fall into his lap, I get why it is happening but with no one else is that anywhere close to cool. Fights that don't happen are fights that don't happen you don't get credit for them just because they didn't take place. His team, maybe he should find a new team~ Dumb suggestion. These guys did great by him. Maybe Ggg should go back in his mothers womb abd come out Mexican with red hair

I didn't state Hopkins got a pass during his run, I stated he went through this same scenario before and now he's recognized as an ATG MW. He must've been some sh*t, Showtime sent a camera crew to freaking Ecuador to watch him fight a journeyman in Mercado for a vacant title - that's a Don King connection for you. That said, Hopkins was a self-destructive MoFo. He alienated people like King, Goosen, and Duva who tried to open doors for him and routinely turned down opportunities through out his career that Golovkin would've jumped at. Like after he beat Trinidad, turning down a multi-million dollar deal with Showtime to fight Hakaar, unify with Simon, then fight Calzaghe. Are you serious about that? His team has done more to make him an attraction than we've seen in years for a fighter. And comfort zone? I just pointed out him signing fights with Pirog & Chavez, making offers to fight Rodriguez & Oosthuzien at 166, and to fight Froch in the UK at his weight. What is his team supposed to be doing differently? I haven't seen Golovkin pull out all the stops on anything. Hopkins did things his way, sure it screwed him in a lot of ways but he was always trying to do something. Sure he has tried to get some fights, but there is a difference between going out and making something occur for himself or waiting for something to fall into his lap. Golovkin has been content to sit and wait to let something fall into his lap, I get why it is happening but with no one else is that anywhere close to cool. Fights that don't happen are fights that don't happen you don't get credit for them just because they didn't take place. His team, maybe he should find a new team~

Any chance this could be the date for Roman Gonzalez to make his debut? That would be better than the Canelo card Roman fought in LA against Estrada and there is a Nicaraguan community. That's the rumor. @TheFightSource @WesamAlmahdi1 @jrosales13 @Studhardt22 @Ol_Bub GGG agrees with you pic.twitter.com/Ly5Xw6AdFw— Adil KZ (@chilladill) March 5, 2015 How frustrating is it being a GGG fan? Knowing that you gotta fight can after can. Like giving a teenager a high-end sports car and putting a governor on it.

How frustrating is it being a GGG fan? Knowing that you gotta fight can after can.

Sounds like Monroe just said he's out. Hopefully HBO shows Monroe vs Heiland under Matthysse/Provodnikov. We maybe slatted to be on the untelevised portion of the Provondnikov Vs Matthysse bout @TurningStone still waitin on a answer but we workin— Willie Monroe jr (@WILLIEMONROEJR) March 5, 2015 @AMcLeishBoxing @TurningStone no name yet HBO approved me to fight GGG in may but they chose to fight someone eles so....— Willie Monroe jr (@WILLIEMONROEJR) March 5, 2015 This morning Fischer said it looks like it'll be Tureano Johnson on May 16th at the Forum. Great location, horrible opponent. Any chance this could be the date for Roman Gonzalez to make his debut? That would be better than the Canelo card Roman fought in LA against Estrada and there is a Nicaraguan community.

Sounds like Monroe just said he's out. Hopefully HBO shows Monroe vs Heiland under Matthysse/Provodnikov. We maybe slatted to be on the untelevised portion of the Provondnikov Vs Matthysse bout @TurningStone still waitin on a answer but we workin— Willie Monroe jr (@WILLIEMONROEJR) March 5, 2015 @AMcLeishBoxing @TurningStone no name yet HBO approved me to fight GGG in may but they chose to fight someone eles so....— Willie Monroe jr (@WILLIEMONROEJR) March 5, 2015 This morning Fischer said it looks like it'll be Tureano Johnson on May 16th at the Forum. Great location, horrible opponent.

Hopkins wasn't given any credit until he started knocking off guys and cleaned out the division. Golovkin has fought, in his entire career, one somebody and folks have been desperately trying to throw him into an ll-time greats conversation with Marvin Hagler and Ray Robinson. if you want to ignore that, so be it. Credit from who? Ring declared Hopkins the #1 MW by April 0f '97. http://boxrec.com/media/index.php/The_Ring_Magazine%27s_Annual_Ratings:_1996 Look at the resume of title fights he had up to that point: 7/16/1996 William Bo James 3/16/1996 Joe Lipsey 1/27/1996 Steve Frank 4/29/1995 Segundo Mercado Rewatch his fights with Glenn Johnson & JDJ on youtube, the announcers were giving Hopkins full credit as the top MW, and it stayed that way through Trinidad. As for Golovkin, it's only natural people compare guys in situations like that to the ATG's. It's on him fullfill it. Who cares if people want to speculate, that's on them.

I didn't state Hopkins got a pass during his run, I stated he went through this same scenario before and now he's recognized as an ATG MW. He must've been some sh*t, Showtime sent a camera crew to freaking Ecuador to watch him fight a journeyman in Mercado for a vacant title - that's a Don King connection for you. That said, Hopkins was a self-destructive MoFo. He alienated people like King, Goosen, and Duva who tried to open doors for him and routinely turned down opportunities through out his career that Golovkin would've jumped at. Like after he beat Trinidad, turning down a multi-million dollar deal with Showtime to fight Hakaar, unify with Simon, then fight Calzaghe. Are you serious about that? His team has done more to make him an attraction than we've seen in years for a fighter. And comfort zone? I just pointed out him signing fights with Pirog & Chavez, making offers to fight Rodriguez & Oosthuzien at 166, and to fight Froch in the UK at his weight. What is his team supposed to be doing differently? Hopkins wasn't given any credit until he started knocking off guys and cleaned out the division. Golovkin has fought, in his entire career, one somebody and folks have been desperately trying to throw him into an ll-time greats conversation with Marvin Hagler and Ray Robinson. if you want to ignore that, so be it.

I know for sure B-Hop wasn't getting a ton of love in his middleweight struggle, until 2001. I watched it the other day, and it kind of fit the point I was making~ In May you are correct it is just I see this same pattern again and again with him. If I didn't think highly of him I wouldn't even care the bit I do about it because it is his career to make good on. In boxing a guy can make a whole lot happen if they want it to. I have no real issue with Golovkin staying on the grind until he gets the spot he wants but until he actually finds that spot things will continue to get worse for him. Nothing is gonna get worse for him. The more he fights, the more he builds his brand and there's nothing wrong with that.

Btw can someone explain to me how the WBA titles work? Golovkin is currently the WBA Super champion. Danny Jacobs is the WBA regular champion. Does this mean Jacobs is in a mandatory position for Golovkin or are they basically two separate titles in the same weight class? Can't stand the WBA and all their belts. The WBA likes to have world title fights; rather than have their title in a situation like the WBC 154 championship (Floyd Mayweather Jr, the best fighter at 147 and 154, is their champion, and is only fighting in title bouts; if the WBC would push, their title would be vacated and their champion wouldn't be the actual champion at the weight), they tier their titles (their top champion is recognized as such, and in spots of inactivity, the WBA still has a "junior champion" to hold up). call it what you want.

That was hilarious. I wouldn't mind him as an opponent, but it's not any better than the three middleweights available either. Really can't win either way as far a credible opponent goes for May. I said this would happen after Murray just by seeing the landscape unfold over the past couple months, it was bound to be a drop off from Murray unless Cotto were to take the fight but we all knew that wasn't going to happen. He's a bigger guy, who'd come into the fight with a hopefully better chin; not the most ideal situation, but workable. Golovkin is kind of in the situation where Anderson Silva was not too long ago; a top fighter without much competition in his class. Instead of keeping Silva on a diet of outgunned softies in his weight class, the UFC made the decision to move Silva out of the weight class. James Irvin, the first opponent, wasn't a world beater at light heavyweight, but he brought enough of the novelty of being a bigger guy to make things a bit more interesting.

is that the guy that made J'Leon Love start twerkin on the mat? ... yes he is

No one gave B-Hop a pass he wasn't **** for a long time. If Golovkin can hang on for 5 more years we can start with the B-Hop talk. I didn't state Hopkins got a pass during his run, I stated he went through this same scenario before and now he's recognized as an ATG MW. He must've been some sh*t, Showtime sent a camera crew to freaking Ecuador to watch him fight a journeyman in Mercado for a vacant title - that's a Don King connection for you. That said, Hopkins was a self-destructive MoFo. He alienated people like King, Goosen, and Duva who tried to open doors for him and routinely turned down opportunities through out his career that Golovkin would've jumped at. Like after he beat Trinidad, turning down a multi-million dollar deal with Showtime to fight Hakaar, unify with Simon, then fight Calzaghe. Like I said boxing is about making something happen, he is clearly staying in his comfort zone and not willing to strike out. I haven't seen that his team is willing to do anything like what it takes to attract names and now that they have had all this handed to them they aren't going to change. Are you serious about that? His team has done more to make him an attraction than we've seen in years for a fighter. And comfort zone? I just pointed out him signing fights with Pirog & Chavez, making offers to fight Rodriguez & Oosthuzien at 166, and to fight Froch in the UK at his weight. What is his team supposed to be doing differently?

Hopkins wasn't really in the spot light though either (until 2001). I know Larry Merchant had his epic post fight interview with him and whatnot, but other than that Hopkins wasn't a star. Just a longtime title holder that was perceived to be at the tail end of his career. They can only do as much as their opponents are willing to do. 160 is pretty screwy at the moment. You got the lineal champ, one of boxing's biggest stars, who's not fighting any middleweights, who GGG is mandatory to (after his voluntary fight). Peter Quillin/Jacobs are with Haymon and presumably, aren't going to be allowed to fight GGG on HBO. And even if they were, Billy Joe Saunders is set to fight the winner of Quillin vs Andy Lee and reportedly Jacobs will fight the winner of that (if it's Quilin at least). Recently the obscure IBF middleweight title was won by back from the dead Jermain Taylor who was then stripped and now the vacated belt is up for grabs with N'Dam vs Lemiuex (assuming his legal problems do not block the fight). And then there's Canelo a few pounds below who's hanging out in the Nelo Division of 155, threatening to move up to 160. So it's really a bizarre situation here when you break it all down. You look north at 168 and the landscape isn't really all that great either. It's an unfortunate time for Golovkin to burst onto the scene. B-Hop has been around so long he was a champ when I was a boy, I literally remember being home sick from school watching this boxing show they had on ESPN back then a monthly show Al Bernstein hosted and they were talking about B-Hop (Tito too actually when they were talking welters lol). For the May fight what I am saying doesn't even really apply because may is too soon to do anything big so whatever is fine. You are totally correct about his spot it is screwy, and it is hard to say he has done the wrong thing really, I haven't had too much issue with who he has been beating up, he cleared up the riff raff. It is hard to say he is wrong looking for Canelo because that does look like the best shot, but I personally think he has done enough waiting around (his ass certainly shouldn't be waiting on Cotto, I wouldn't even utter his name and would treat him like a total joke if it came up). It is also true 168 isn't some paradise it would really just be taking his destiny in his own hands. I do think Ward would fight him in a fight for all the marbles there so at least that would be something kind of concrete to build, shouldn't be that tough a road to build either.

Whatever. Being prepared to fight Froch at his weight, his home turf is going out of your comfort zone. Too bad it takes 2 to tango GGG does find guys to fight him, 4x a year. What you're demanding is name guys, but they don't wanna touch him, see Froch I never said Golovkin was avoiding fights, being fine with his situation is a totally different crime. That's the problem you think I am charging him with murder, he might have roughed someone up. I don't that much care if Golovkin gets a pass because I think he is a very good fighter and clearly the best guy at 160. I don't know what that really means though and I am a person that likes to find those things out. I am a patient man though I will wait it out to see but if people are going to talk about him on the top level I want to see the top level from him because he hasn't shown that yet. Now is that all his fault, no (I will repeat that no) but that does not change the fact that he needs to do something tangible. It can be done, it is not an impossibility but I don't have the answers to that hard problem. Maybe I will really ponder it to see if I can come up with something so people can scoff at that to.

Talk is cheap in all forms especially talk like that in boxing. I put literally no stock in they type of thing. Never had, never will because it is always leading you away from solid answers. It is on Golovkin to find the guy that will fight him, worrying about guys that won't and likely never will is worrying about the wrong things. Whatever. Being prepared to fight Froch at his weight, his home turf is going out of your comfort zone. Too bad it takes 2 to tango GGG does find guys to fight him, 4x a year. What you're demanding is name guys, but they don't wanna touch him, see Froch

Its only words cause the other side is not interested. Read those words from team Froch? No wonder nobody wants it if a bigger, battle proven p4per like Froch is making quetes like those. Talk is cheap in all forms especially talk like that in boxing. I put literally no stock in they type of thing. Never had, never will because it is always leading you away from solid answers. It is on Golovkin to find the guy that will fight him, worrying about guys that won't and likely never will is worrying about the wrong things.