I am a massive Klitschko supporter but we got to face the truth.
Tyson Fury has undeniably got more "raw" talent thant Wladimir Klitschko. That#s just the way it is. That doesn't mean that he would be the favourite against him but when it comes to talent, Tyson Fury has definitely got more potential.
However Wladimir Klitschko is the ultimate professional alongside with David Haye ( when he's not faking an injury, blaming his sore toe or doing his nonsense) in the heavyweight division.
Klitschko-Fury, I think we got a potentially HUGE fight out there!
I am a massive Klitschko supporter but we got to face the truth.
Tyson Fury has undeniably got more "raw" talent thant Wladimir Klitschko. That#s just the way it is. That doesn't mean that he would be the favourite against him but when it comes to talent, Tyson Fury has definitely got more potential.
However Wladimir Klitschko is the ultimate professional alongside with David Haye ( when he's not faking an injury, blaming his sore toe or doing his nonsense) in the heavyweight division.
Klitschko-Fury, I think we got a potentially HUGE fight out there!NO! Not even close. Watch videos of Wlad around 2002, he has faster guns and clearly has more offensive talent. The Wlad we see now has improved his skills but is probably past his peak on raw athleticism.
How did he?
He didn't take a punch all night.
Right...Chisora looked horrible and all Fury did was flick out a few punches here and there...It reminds me of people that think Rios is the 2nd coming after his latest performance against Alvarado, or Tomato Can Tom as I like to call him....Fury had a little more resistance than Rios did but showed me nothing that would beat Klitschko...
Fighters only lose wide if they are shot/sh.it.
Many posters on here said Chisora would knock him out cold. The NSB poll was about 50/50 if memory serves me correctly. Fury then proceeds to shut him out & TKO him.
Chisora was shot doe!!
He won every round, didn't have a scratch on him at the end of the fight. How on earth did he look terrible?
All these people saying Chisora was a zombie & shot etc, he was made to look bad by Fury. Chisora looked great against Kevin Johnson in the previous fight and managed to knock him down which very few, if any fighters have done before. Then he comes up against Fury and is suddenly shot to pieces? Yeah right!
Fighters only lose wide if they are shot/sh.it.
I just watched Fury v Chisora 2 on YouTube...and I don't see it. I have no idea how anyone watching this fight can believe Fury will beat Klit...He looks terrible against pathetic Chisora...
He won every round, didn't have a scratch on him at the end of the fight. How on earth did he look terrible?
All these people saying Chisora was a zombie & shot etc, he was made to look bad by Fury. Chisora looked great against Kevin Johnson in the previous fight and managed to knock him down which very few, if any fighters have done before. Then he comes up against Fury and is suddenly shot to pieces? Yeah right!
thats actually a very intriguing question. it made me chuckle at first since wlad has ten times the athletic talent fury does, but fury may have been born ten times the fighter wlad was from a mental perspective. fury was born to be a fighter, wlad by his own admission wasnt. so all in all its hard to say.
just thinking of this subject makes me wonder what wilder would be like if he had technical ability. that dude is a physical freak and a ****ing assassin mentally. he showed a bit of skills against stiverne, so i cant say he has no boxing ability at all but it sure as hell is limited. still he got this far on raw talent, say what you will about his overall ability but thats impressive.
I just watched Fury v Chisora 2 on YouTube...and I don't see it. I have no idea how anyone watching this fight can believe Fury will beat Klit...He looks terrible against pathetic Chisora...
How did he?
He didn't take a punch all night.
I just watched Fury v Chisora 2 on YouTube...and I don't see it. I have no idea how anyone watching this fight can believe Fury will beat Klit...He looks terrible against pathetic Chisora...
If the shoe fits...wear it. Dwyer is right about fighters that adapt in the ring, its a good point and one that a lot of so called pundits neglect. Now, especially lately Dwyer says a lot of other things that are not so right! This is a man who predicted Romney would win by a landslide, thats Elroy territory:trink26:
You wouldn't know good boxing from a drunken bar brawl!
Atleast keep it objective you clown!
Consider his points on his merits ffs!
Stand down nut bag! :lol1:
I like how Fury fights up close.
That is what makes a Wlad fight interesting. He might be able clobber Wlad in close. Wlad would have to fire back in there at times. He would have no choice.
Of course Wlad could send him to the moon at any moment. Fury can't do the same to Wlad IMO.
Wlad is more talented though surely - early in his career he threw in combination
Simply put, Fury is slicker , brings more variety to the table and has a much more developed ( but sometimes clumsy) defense.
There is a 10cm reach disadvantage for Wladimir in this fight, and he is indeed 8 cm shorter.
Fury is no Wach, and James Ai Bashir must be DELUSIONAL to say that he was more worried about Wach than he would be against Fury.
Fury is not slicker, he does not move as gracefully as Wladimir does, Wladimir is heaps slick for 250lbs, only Lennox LEwis moved more fluidly imo at that size perhaps. I don't think Wladimir has ever been stiff.
Yes he has a greater variety than Wladimir, but as stated that is perhaps one of Wladimir's STRONG suits, he has completely refined his style to keep what works and discard what doesn't.
It's kind of like this... You claim Fury has a better natural talent than Wladimir right? So the question becomes, "How long would it take Fury to become as competent as Wladimir in his respective career?"
My answer would be "Longer than Wladimir".
If the shoe fits...wear it. Dwyer is right about fighters that adapt in the ring, its a good point and one that a lot of so called pundits neglect. Now, especially lately Dwyer says a lot of other things that are not so right! This is a man who predicted Romney would win by a landslide, thats Elroy territory:trink26:
Dwyer is quite often wrong but he definitely got a point here with Tyson Fury.
Thiw doesn't mean however that Fury would be the favourite against Klitschko because boxing is far from being just about talent.
For instance, I can find you a 6'5 24 years old man, that never practiced boxing, that could be potentially more naturally talented than Wladimir Klitschko.
I noticed that Klitschko is not that stiff anymore which is quite surprising for his age, he's got some really nice movements too!
Someones been watching too much dwyer.
If the shoe fits...wear it. Dwyer is right about fighters that adapt in the ring, its a good point and one that a lot of so called pundits neglect. Now, especially lately Dwyer says a lot of other things that are not so right! This is a man who predicted Romney would win by a landslide, thats Elroy territory:trink26:
wlad is clearly more naturally talented imo. I think fury is tougher tho and a better fighter than alot of people give him credit for. he moves well for a big man and has good variety in his combinations. I just dont think he has the explosiveness to get to wlad
Everything he says is usually guided to make Wlad look better.
This x10
I'm sorry but Tyson Fury looked like sh1t in his last fight. I can't stand people saying "he boxed masterfully." He had a zombie punching bag in front of him that he held up for 10 rounds. He played paddy cake with Chisora until Derrick quit. Wow, what talent on display
This x20
Fury is one of the most woefully inept frauds in heavyweight history.
I cannot think of one decent, let alone great attribute, this buffoon possesses.
Watching Fury for the first time I remember thinking that he was much better than I had anticipated...another thing I like is the improvement he shows with each new outing...
As for him being more talented than Wlad...I wouldn't go THAT far...Now he certainly has his attributes but in comparison to Klits skillset I think he comes up short...
The only thing I really see him doing better at this point is putting shots together...His combination punching appears to be better but I wonder if that's more by necessity (because he lacks bigtime power) or because he's so good at it...I'm not convinced Wlad couldn't do the same if he felt the need...
Power, defense, strength, & accuracy are all attributes that Wlad best Fury in IMO...
While I definitely don't see Fury as some big plodding oaf...he ain't the heavyweight version of Sugar Ray Robinson either....
WLAD'S SKILLS>>>>>> FURY'S SKILLS
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