Forget the official scoring.. Going by your own scorecards, how many times did you have the brilliant boxer/counterpuncher Marquez beating, or fighting to a draw, against Pacquiao? Marquez was also a former Mayweather opponent.
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Just twice for sure.
I feel he won the 3rd fight, and of course the 4th by KO.
So I basically have it
1 win for Pac in the 2nd fight.
1 draw for both in the first fight.
And Marquez winning the 3rd - 4th fight.
The only fight that I say marquez Won was 3rd fight/ 4th......All the other fights were too close and had knockdowns that gave manny win or draw....
These two are perfect rivals.....even in the 4th fight were MAnny was KOed....He was on the verge of TKOing MArquez
I wudnt mind a 5th after Manny vs Floyd/ Rematch and after A madiana/Khan/Garcia fight
i had marquez winning 3 of them counting the 4th but they honestly could of gone either way i would not go as far as to say marquez was robbed but fact he didnt get the nod in at least 1 of the first 3 fights is a bit ridiculous and makes you wonder how its possible. Regardless tho those were all some great fights even the third one it really has turned into a perfect story. JMM almost being demolished right away in first one getting a draw when most people thought he should have won. Getting "robbed" in 2 and 3 then on his death bed of the fight again in the 4th lays manny out. there were better rivalries frazier ali etc etc but im not sure there has ever been a better story written then those 2 fighters no matter which side of the spectrum you are on as far as who u thought won certain fights
Pacquiao vs. Marquez I
This fight wasn't difficult to score considering the three knockdowns, Marquez rallied and had his moments but each round was competitive and could have gone either way, it would have been an official win for Pacquiao if it weren't for one judge incorrectly scoring the 1st round a 10-7 instead of 10-6, which made Marquez and his fan base believe the fight was closer than it actually was. Pacquiao clearly won this fight 7-5, 115/110.
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Pacquiao vs. Marquez I
This fight wasn't difficult to score considering the three knockdowns, Marquez rallied and had his moments but each round was competitive and could have gone either way, it would have been an official win for Pacquiao if it weren't for one judge incorrectly scoring the 1st round a 10-7 instead of 10-6, which made Marquez and his fan base believe the fight was closer than it actually was. Pacquiao clearly won this fight 7-5, 115/110.
Pacquiao vs. Marquez II
I just recently watched the second fight, it was a seesaw battle with both fighters having their moments. I had both Pacquiao and Marquez winning 6 rounds each, it was Pacquiao's knockdown along with his willingness to engage and active aggression despite having a badly damaged eye that swayed my decision heavily in his favor. With that being said, I gave it to Pacquiao 6-6, 114-113.
Pacquiao vs. Marquez III
The third fight was the most difficult for me to score, I watched it once with my focus entirely on Pacquiao and the second time on Marquez, both fighters were in the best physical condition that I've ever seen them in.
Pacquiao's speed and ferocity were on full display, his combinations were blindingly fast, he was pushing the pace and throwing more punches per round than Marquez but wasn't landing with the same consistency, he was unable to score a knockdown or visibly hurt Marquez in this fight.
Marquez was landing the more significant strikes and took the least amount of damage that he's ever taken against Pacquiao, he was landing that right cross with a lot more frequency than in the previous two fights, every round that Marquez won were decisive while the rounds that Pacquiao won were a complete toss up that could have gone either way.
With that being said, I had Marquez winning 7-5, 115/113.
Pacquiao vs. Marquez I
This fight wasn't difficult to score considering the three knockdowns, Marquez rallied and had his moments but each round was competitive and could have gone either way, it would have been an official win for Pacquiao if it weren't for one judge incorrectly scoring the 1st round a 10-7 instead of 10-6, which made Marquez and his fan base believe the fight was closer than it actually was. Pacquiao clearly won this fight 7-5, 115/110.
Pacquiao vs. Marquez II
I just recently watched the second fight, it was a seesaw battle with both fighters having their moments. I had both Pacquiao and Marquez winning 6 rounds each, it was Pacquiao's knockdown along with his willingness to engage and active aggression despite having a badly damaged eye that swayed my decision heavily in his favor. With that being said, I gave it to Pacquiao 6-6, 114-113.
Pacquiao vs. Marquez III
The third fight was the most difficult for me to score, I watched it once with my focus entirely on Pacquiao and the second time on Marquez, both fighters were in the best physical condition that I've ever seen them in.
Pacquiao's speed and ferocity were on full display, his combinations were blindingly fast, he was pushing the pace and throwing more punches per round than Marquez but wasn't landing with the same consistency, he was unable to score a knockdown or visibly hurt Marquez in this fight.
Marquez was landing the more significant strikes and took the least amount of damage that he's ever taken against Pacquiao, he was landing that right cross with a lot more frequency than in the previous two fights, every round that Marquez won were decisive while the rounds that Pacquiao won were a complete toss up that could have gone either way.
With that being said, I had Marquez winning 7-5, 115/113.
Had Marquez winning the first fight and the second although they were close fights.
Thought Marquez dominated the third fight.
I thought Marquez was losing the fourth fight before he scored the knock out
i had jmm winning all the fights, i give points for moving around and looking intelligent, boxing isn't all about hitting people ya know
boxing is all about hitting ppl.
Manny won the first fight...it was close but the breakdown of the individual rounds were clear...
2nd fight I scored slightly for Pac....close enough to have gone either way...
3rd fight Marquez won...the most decisive of the first 3 fights, fairly clear Marquez victory...
2 for Manny & 2 for JMM...
Pacquiao won the first fight and quite clearly for me, Pacquiao was better in almost every department.
Except boxing, you mean? Marquez outboxed Pacquiao for at least 3/4 of that fight. Pacquaio proved he was faster and the better puncher, that's about it.