Al Haymon is still negotiating for Floyd Mayweather although he is now a biased player in the market running shows on NBC, NBC Sports and Spike.
Do you really think Al Haymon has Floyd's best interest in mind, now when he competes against HBO and Showtime?
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Lol y'all really be so concerned about what Floyd and Haymon. So many rumors and speculation. Mind your own business.
Al Haymon is now a public figure and a power player in boxing, so he must accept that other people will discuss his actions in public. Why are you so concerned about people talking about Al Haymon's business?
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I think Al haymon cares about all of his fighters. I think he does everything in his power to help them out with anything and make sure they can succeed in life. He would never do anything to hurt any of them.
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I don't know exactly how you define "all of his fighters", but do you mean active fighters? Al Haymon worked a lot with Oscar De La Hoya, who isn't an active fighter, but I cannot see that Haymon did everything in his power to help him. In fact it seems like Haymon viciously tried to hurt and destroy Oscar in a malicious, greedy and repulsive way. So why wouldn't Haymon also do this to the active fighters?
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I think Al haymon cares about all of his fighters. I think he does everything in his power to help them out with anything and make sure they can succeed in life. He would never do anything to hurt any of them.
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If Floyd fights Paquaio on May 2 Floyd wont be fighting anywhere afterwards Manny will knock him out of boxing
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That is what Floyd Sr believed a few years ago, but he seems to have changed his mind about that. Maybe Floyd Jr has found some powerful PEDs that are undetectable, since then.
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This pretty much. Imo Haymon is smart enough to know Floyd is coming to the end of his career and he can't rely on him forever so he's moving in his own direction. Plus the Showtime deal didn't work out as expected financially, Floyd doesn't provide the leverage that he used to.
However, Haymon is still using Floyd as his leverage at Showtime, and next year Haymon will likely put Floyd on his own PPV TV to maximize his own profit.
But Floyd doesn't need Haymon anymore, and should therefore leave him, in my opinion, because Haymon has burnt his bridges with HBO and is burning his relationship with SHO at the moment, giving them only mismatches.
Floyd is much better off fighting on HBO or SHO, than on Haymon's own PPV.
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Supposedly Haymon raised alot of money from investors to fund this PBC experiment
That means he has a fiduciary duty to do his best to make them (and him) money.
I doubt Haymon would want Floyd being anywhere close to his deal with NBC. Advertisers aren't gonna cut a check to buy airtime when theres a illiterate, convicted felon there.
It is likely that Haymon will start his own PPV for PBC, just like WWE do. There Floyd and Wilder can fight with different opponents and earn a few million dollars.
The rest of Haymon's fighters will need to fight on NBC, NBC Sports or Spike with a rather low purse. After a while the best fighters on NBC should be able to get a purse over $1 million, that is if the project becomes a success. I doubt that any fighter ever will get a purse higher than $2 million when they fight on NBC, because there is a limit to how much Haymon can get from his commercials there. However, there would not be the same limit for the fighters that Haymon can put on his own PPV.
But in conclusion, there must be a terrible reduction in the size of the purses, compared to when Haymon's boxers fought on SHO or HBO.
I expect that Haymon's best fighters will try to leave him for long time contracts on HBO or SHO, rather soon. I certainly cannot understand why so many fighters have been attracted to him.
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There's a good interview with Paul Williams, he talks about Haymon helping him. From 3:45
I have seen the interview before. The help that Al Haymon provided was telephone calls telling Paul to get out of his house. Sure, Paul was happy someone called, but Al Haymon was his manager. Isn't that the least you can ask from your manager that he calls and asks how you are?
The question is, why didn't Al Haymon do more?
Why isn't Paul in rehabilitation training?
Why isn't Paul getting the best help he can get to get back on his feet?
Shouldn't Paul be in rehabilitation training to walk every day?
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All real boxing fans love Paul Williams, he is great...a TRUE CHAMPION!
I have never met Paul but would love to meet him, he is truly inspirational.
Supposedly Haymon raised alot of money from investors to fund this PBC experiment
That means he has a fiduciary duty to do his best to make them (and him) money.
I doubt Haymon would want Floyd being anywhere close to his deal with NBC. Advertisers aren't gonna cut a check to buy airtime when theres a illiterate, convicted felon there.
I doubt it, he already did all he can do for mayweather. He focusing on his own brand etc. Mayweather was used as a leverage to milk showtime and hbo for all the possible money he could of with all his fighters so he could make his power moves now.
This pretty much. Imo Haymon is smart enough to know Floyd is coming to the end of his career and he can't rely on him forever so he's moving in his own direction. Plus the Showtime deal didn't work out as expected financially, Floyd doesn't provide the leverage that he used to.
I doubt it, he already did all he can do for mayweather. He focusing on his own brand etc.
Yes, Al Haymon is now focusing on his own brand, PBC. He will use all his best fighters to build value in his brand. The question is why he created his own brand PBC?
One thing is that this new brand seems to be using WWE as the benchmark, but it is still too early to know for sure.
Mayweather was used as a leverage to milk showtime and hbo for all the possible money he could of with all his fighters so he could make his power moves now.
Yes, Al Haymon is known for milking and skinning his partners and the people he works with. HBO suffered, GBP suffered, and now he is unashamedly milking SHO.
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I doubt it, he already did all he can do for mayweather. He focusing on his own brand etc. Mayweather was used as a leverage to milk showtime and hbo for all the possible money he could of with all his fighters so he could make his power moves now.
We see it said here all the time that Bob is keeping Manny from floyd. But who really stands to lose more here? Manny has lost several times, and is still a marketable fighter. When floyd does lose, there goes his entire marketing campaign. Since we always see Haymon keeping his fighters out of harms way, why aren't people questioning Haymon protecting Floyd? Don't come with that crap that floyd is his own boss. He's not and has even said he needs to talk to Al about his fights. If anyone is protecting their fighter, it's Al protecting floyd.
Yes, Al Haymon wants easy fights for Floyd now, but when Floyd will be on Haymon's network next year the strategy might be different. Look for example how he protected his fighters last year when they fought on Showtime, but as soon as they are on Haymon's network now they immediately got more difficult fights.
That is because now Haymon himself has to pay them and it seems that he will now force them to difficult fights as soon as they are on Haymon's network.
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This is fvcking stupid son...Floyd aint fighting on regular tv..that is for the smaller fighters
If Floyd fights Paquaio on May 2 Floyd wont be fighting anywhere afterwards Manny will knock him out of boxing
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We see it said here all the time that Bob is keeping Manny from floyd. But who really stands to lose more here? Manny has lost several times, and is still a marketable fighter. When floyd does lose, there goes his entire marketing campaign. Since we always see Haymon keeping his fighters out of harms way, why aren't people questioning Haymon protecting Floyd? Don't come with that crap that floyd is his own boss. He's not and has even said he needs to talk to Al about his fights. If anyone is protecting their fighter, it's Al protecting floyd.
I don't think Al always has Floyd's best interest at heart. I think Al Haymon is looking out for himself at all times. Al seems to do good for his fighters also though. Al will do whatever he deems will benefit himself the most like any other rational human being. Mayweather pretty much helped to make Al Haymon what he is today in the scheme of boxing imo. Mayweather praised Haymon, Mayweather became top earner for the sport, other boxers followed Mayweather to Haymon, and now Haymon has a huge roster. Haymon might actually look out for Floyd since Floyd helped him as much if not more than Al helped Floyd.
I think you are naïve if you expect Al Haymon to "help" Floyd now. The most probable is that Al Haymon will skin Floyd badly. Look at Al Haymon's track record. He has skinned almost everyone he has worked with as far as I can see. Why would his business with Floyd be different?
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Mayweather don't need Network TV Exposure, he is already at the very top of the sport as far as making money and being known.
Floyd would love exposure on Network TV. You can be sure that he will be exposed there.
I think Haymon use Mayweather as a Negotiation Ploy...AND WHY NOT! He helped May weather become the Highest Paid Athlete In The World, that should be his SELLING POINT to not only other fighters but Networks as well!
I don't think Floyd has gained much from Al Haymon's duck strategies. Floyd would have been greater with a better manager.
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It wont change for Floyd fights.
Al Haymon might very well set up PPV fights on his own channels, or he might put Floyd on NBC and sell one minute commercials between the rounds. Al Haymon is probably planning to put his best fighters on NBC, and give his fighters percentage of the income from the commercials.
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