Andre Ward update

HBO shouldn't pay him to fight a tune up but there isn't really a fighter that is interesting for Ward to fight at 168. HBO shouldn't even pay him to be calling the action with the HBO crew to be honest.

No, it's not dumb at all. Some people just don't understand how marketing/advertising work. If Andre wants more supply, then he has to build up his demand. Rumors are swirling that Roc Nation actually reworked Andre's contract and agreed to pay him even more than his usual $2mill... I think Ward will see it as an unnecessary rebuilding process, hence it would be dumb from his viewpoint. I remember when Peterson went from fighting Cayo on FNF for peanuts to fighting Khan on Showtime for 500k iirc. I doubt Ward has the type of hunger anymore to willingly take a step backwards, even if it could provide him with bigger opportunities in the long term. For all his skill and talent, he seems to have gotten very comfortable with his current position and doesn't want to relinquish the perks that he's earned (i.e. good purses regardless of opposition, fighting on premium cable).

Cedric Agnew & Giovanni Lorenzo are rumors guys.. Does HBO want Ward vs Felix Sturm? Thanks.....

What is "lol" about gauging SHO's interest? Because they're actually shopping interest now You seriously interpreting my lol?

Reason Bute was ranked so high was, because of the extremely impressive fashion in which he was knocking out opponents. Sure, not against great opponents, we saw what happened when he stepped up. But pretty much everyone thought he was a killer.

Guys, Ward spent 2 1/2 years fighting the best SMWs in the world. Bute spent that time fighting bottom-feeders. Super Six ended and Ward said he'd fight Bute after Bute proved himself. To Bute's credit, he did finally challenge himself and tried to prove himself. He failed miserably. He proved to be weak-chinned and weak-hearted vs. Froch. Passed on a mandated rematch. Then he showed himself to be scared and soulless vs. Pascal. He has now faded into obscurity. He is not a has-been. He is a never-was. It may look good from afar, but if you can't prove it on the top level it doesn't mean anything. Gary Russell Jr. also looked good from afar. The proof is in the pudding. Bute had no pudding. Again in hindsight yes, the Bute fight wouldn't do much for Ward's career. But at the time it was a good fight. Bute was ranked high and Showtime signed him deal for the exclusive purpose of matching him with the Super Six Champ. It was built up to be a big fight and it was a disappointment when Ward decided not to take the fight.

Common buddy. The only reason some boxing websites decided to rank Bute #1 was because Ward spent 2 1/2 years wiping out all the best SMWs on the planet in the Super Six. Kessler, Green, Bika, Abraham, and Froch. All 5 in a row. Meanwhile (and I'm using BoxRec for this) Bute fought Librado Andrade, Edison Miranda, Jesse Brinkley, Brian Magee, Jean Paul Mendy, and 42-year old Glen Johnson in that same period. Andre Ward was a green 25-year old when he entered the Super Six as a decided underdog to the 3 big, bad Euros (Kessler, Abraham, Froch). He beat each and every single one of them decisively en route to claiming the SMW throne. And after all of this, he was scared of Lucian Bute? Lucian Bute, one of the biggest media hypejobs in recent memory? I know that even you don't believe that. Regardless of what caused Bute to be ranked as high, he was ranked high. Remember Showtime signed Bute to an exclusive contract for the purpose of setting up a mega clash between the Super Six Champ and Bute. Instead Ward kept saying Bute hadn't earned the shot and chose not to fight him. Stupid because if Bute didn't earn the shot then who? Not to mention Bute had a huge following in Canada which would have earned Ward more money and glory. Rather he allowed the runner up in Froch to take the fight, the big money and the glory. Bad decision by Ward.

Common buddy. The only reason some boxing websites decided to rank Bute #1 was because Ward spent 2 1/2 years wiping out all the best SMWs on the planet in the Super Six. Kessler, Green, Bika, Abraham, and Froch. All 5 in a row. Meanwhile (and I'm using BoxRec for this) Bute fought Librado Andrade, Edison Miranda, Jesse Brinkley, Brian Magee, Jean Paul Mendy, and 42-year old Glen Johnson in that same period. Andre Ward was a green 25-year old when he entered the Super Six as a decided underdog to the 3 big, bad Euros (Kessler, Abraham, Froch). He beat each and every single one of them decisively en route to claiming the SMW throne. And after all of this, he was scared of Lucian Bute? Lucian Bute, one of the biggest media hypejobs in recent memory? I know that even you don't believe that. when you see an easy mark(floyd-baldomir) in boxing you take them out, you don't wait around for others to do it for you, especially when that easy mark is offering you a career high payday. something made ward not want to fight bute and it wasn't his sense of fairness. he said bute didn't deserve it but then tried to fight sartison before settling on rodriguez so he's full of sh-it. he saw something in bute that made him not take the fight. we don't know why he didn't take the fight but all the circumstances were there: the money, the rankings, and the hype, the only thing that went missing was ward's desire for the fight.

Who does ward want to fight? Cedric Agnew & Giovanni Lorenzo are rumors guys.. Does HBO want Ward vs Felix Sturm?

Beating Sakio Bika and Edison Miranda makes you #1? Forget business sense. You lack common sense. ok i guess you didn't want a business lesson so history it is. http://oi61.tinypic.com/2v1lu11.jpg Bute losing and falling down the rankings doesn't mean ward wasn't scared at the time because he was. If he saw bute as an easy mark he would have taken him down for a career high payday but he didn't.

Buddy I get 5 red K per day from nutlickers like yourself. It doesn't bother me at all. As long as Boston Guy thinks I'm a good poster, I'll be in the green forever. Maybe you get Red K, because you are a nut licker? :bigeyes: Why doesn't Ward move to 175? He can have his tune ups there. What's left for him at SMW? Just curious to hear you spin this one.

what does he expect? get pay 2 million for another rodriguez after almost 2 years of doing nothing?

lol he went to ask showtime, that lets u know how laughable the opponent will be. ! Exactly :lol1: Showtime has no fights scheduled, so Ward is going over there to ask Espinoza for the 2 million to fight some guy we have never heard of. "Ward deserves it doe"

Damn sure ducked that prime Roy reamtch, stop rewriting history 60/40 you get you ass kicked, taints BHOP soul and legacy, he's fighting champs at 50 still trying to run and separate himself from that ghost As a BHOP fan and Roid Jones hater, it hurts me to say this.................................. I was disappointed with Nard when had a deal after he beat Tito, to fight Harry Simon for the WBO and then move up to fight Joe Calzaghe (who would've fought Charles Brewer on the same card), but backed out because Don King would've took too much of his purse.

3 more nutlickers like yourself and daggum will have as many fans as Andre Ward. :lol1: :lol1: Shine my shoes boy. Leave debating to the men. I already did my part in the beginning. Mad about that Red K earlier EH? :lol1: its ok dawg

Beating Sakio Bika and Edison Miranda makes you #1? Forget business sense. You lack common sense. Beating Kessler Abraham and Froch makes you #1

I know's it dumb, but it would be a good look for Ward/Roc Nation. Ward either reaches a deal with HBO, fights on another network or continues his inactivity. No, it's not dumb at all. Some people just don't understand how marketing/advertising work. If Andre wants more supply, then he has to build up his demand. Rumors are swirling that Roc Nation actually reworked Andre's contract and agreed to pay him even more than his usual $2mill...

This is why I respect Bernard Hopkins he knows his role and his marketing value, he knows he isn't a super star on the level of an Oscar, Canelo, Pac or Floyd or Cotto, and he doesnt price himself out................. Damn sure ducked that prime Roy reamtch, stop rewriting history 60/40 you get you ass kicked, taints BHOP soul and legacy, he's fighting champs at 50 still trying to run and separate himself from that ghost As a BHOP fan and Roid Jones hater, it hurts me to say this..................................

lol he went to ask showtime, that lets u know how laughable the opponent will be. !

If that's the case, Ward may never fight again.