* convicted drugs cheat (1996)
* beat 5 guys who were in the top 10 when they fought
* beat Sam Peter after a 4 year hiatus
* ducked Rahman
* 14 championship fights
* best win Corrie Sanders
* only lost due to injury and giving up
* never lost more than 3 rounds by any judges scorecard
* gave Lennox Lewis one of his tougher fights
What do you think?
1st ballot?
:lol1: :lol1:
Dude, you're a pathetic dickrider. If you're 45 as you say, I feel sorry for you. I'm not having an aneurysm over it, you're the one writing these long posts, basically just to prove my point exactly.
Don't you understand that if a guy is not on the top 10 in 2008, then he's not a top 10 fighter in his first fight in March 2009? I think it's you who's dense.
You want to believe that a guy who's never been in the top 10, who's never beaten a top fighter or even a top 15-20 fighter, say like Solis.
He wasn't a top 10 fighter in 2010, but if he was included in say, February 2011 based on him scheduling a fight with Vitali rather than beating a top guy, he's obviously been artificially put into the top 10 which does not make him a top 10 fighter.
Mysteriously, they were both #10 when they fought Vitali. You have to see where they were ranked after the issue magazine updated the rankings after their previous fights. And the answer is not top 10.
Anyway, I don't expect fanboys like you to understand. And with regards to this thread , the irony is obviously lost on you as well :lol1:
Even though Vitali's resume is still horrible.
I am going to simplify this and try not to write that much. You made a statement that was flat out wrong. I gave you proof that you were wrong and now you want to change the debate.
Let me make this as clear as possible. I honestly don't care why the Ring had them ranked nor do I care how long they were ranked because that simply doesn't matter. And why? Because it is irrelevant to the original conversion. The fact is that both Solis and Johnson were ranked in Ring's top ten when they fought Vitali.
And you can try to spin it and change it and you can debate it to the end of time and for all I care you can even piss on it. Because no matter how much you try it doesn't change the fact that you were simply wrong.
With that said. I will actually agree with you and admit that I am a bit long winded I always have been I'm just not good at condensing and I am okay with that. But it must really suck for you that such an old, quoting you, "diickrider" like myself proved you wrong. Because it honestly seems that you are having a hard time dealing with it.
By the way how many Ring top 10 fighters did Fury beat to get such a lofty ranking? I figured if you start focusing on something else it will give you away out and you can stop embarrassing yourself. Honestly you should have just admitted that you were wrong and it would have ended the discussion.
And now you can't seem to let it go. Just keep repeating to yourself, "I'm not as perfect as I thought I was and I am okay with that." It might really help!
Smoked my boots? :lol1:
Let's pretend that they were in fact top 10 guys. Not in my mind, but let's say they were.
That "proves" Vitali had 7 top 10 wins in a near 15 year active fighting career.
Wow!
Aha! So now the goalposts has been moved from 'Ring Magazine ranking' to 'LacedUp's own mind made rankings that fits whatever agenda I choose'.
Yeah. That's fair. :rofl:
Well, that's it then. They didn't make your list. Bloody bums.
Out of curiosity, how does the LacedUp Magazine TOP 10 P4P list look these days?
I didn't mean they weren't top 10 in my mind, I meant they were not top 10 ranked by ring in my mind since they were only put there after they signed to a fight with Vitali.
I don't know, but David Haye is number 1 for sure.
Smoked my boots? :lol1:
Let's pretend that they were in fact top 10 guys. Not in my mind, but let's say they were.
That "proves" Vitali had 7 top 10 wins in a near 15 year active fighting career.
Wow!
Well, that's it then. They didn't make your list. Bloody bums.
Out of curiosity, how does the LacedUp Magazine TOP 10 P4P list look these days?
Agree to disagree. :lol1:
He smoked your boots son! You got banjo'ed!
Smoked my boots? :lol1:
Let's pretend that they were in fact top 10 guys. Not in my mind, but let's say they were.
That "proves" Vitali had 7 top 10 wins in a near 15 year active fighting career.
Wow!
Well, we can agree to disagree.
I don't think it's pathetic to think that a guy is not top 10 if he was promoted his way there the day he signed for a fight, and did not qualify based on the criteria set by ring magazine which does not include others performance.
Agree to disagree. :lol1:
He smoked your boots son! You got banjo'ed!
:ugh:
You where just presented with evidence where you could see the Ring Magazine Ranking!
I don't know how he obtained that ranking nor can I see the relevance. You live by that ranking system and you die by that ranking system.
But maybe someone above him lost a fight or fell becuase of inactivity, but Again it's irrelevant.
You where proven wrong and it would serve you better to acknowledge it and move on. Continuing on this here path is pathetic.
Well, we can agree to disagree.
I don't think it's pathetic to think that a guy is not top 10 if he was promoted his way there the day he signed for a fight, and did not qualify based on the criteria set by ring magazine which does not include others performance.
I wasn't proven wrong, I was proven right.
They weren't in the top 10. If you're not a top 10 fighter the year before, the actual year the fight took place or the year after, how can you be a top 10 guy? :lol1:
:ugh:
You where just presented with evidence where you could see the Ring Magazine Ranking!
I don't know how he obtained that ranking nor can I see the relevance. You live by that ranking system and you die by that ranking system.
But maybe someone above him lost a fight or fell becuase of inactivity, but Again it's irrelevant.
You where proven wrong and it would serve you better to acknowledge it and move on. Continuing on this here path is pathetic.
You have just been proven wrong. Accept it and let it go.
I wasn't proven wrong, I was proven right.
They weren't in the top 10. If you're not a top 10 fighter the year before, the actual year the fight took place or the year after, how can you be a top 10 guy? :lol1:
Yes Ali would embarrass the plodding Povetkin and most likely Ko him in the latter rounds or even make him quit on his stool.. Povetkin would touch Ali with no more than ten punches the whole fight and to not see that is terrifying,I fear for your mental health and no he never fought cans.. obviously on his way towards Liston and a few stay busy fights he did,I was pointing out the way he embarrasses them,mind you Wlad embarrasses the cans he fights but only because they sign for a fight and when they get in the ring they're subjected to a soft gay **** shoot
Remember everyone Elroy is the guy that claims Jean Mormeck has more power than George Foreman
Muhammad Ali was annihilated in almost all of his fights, EVEN in some of his CAN fights as well!!! He fought EVEN with Sonny Liston, the slowest boxer in history, he was pasted often by guys with half his own range even.
But despite all these bummy and ridiculous opponents smacking him all the time, Alexander Povetkin only lands 10 punches? More the point would Alexander even NEED more than 10 punches? :lol1:
Most of Ali's opponents are LESS than bums, even some of his TOP opponents.
Wladimir Klitschko fought some bummy opponents too, but only at the very start of his career.
And guess what. He knocked every single one of them sssstraight out! ;)
80'sfighter said it best. Frazier, even with YEARS of modern training AND steroids.. at BEST might be able to get a split decision with Kimbo Slice!
Fact!
Yeah, the difference being, that Muhammad Ali fought nothing really BUT cans, you said it yourself.
Whereas Wladimir Klitschko would never in a million years be ALLOWED to fight such a can!
Muhammad Ali never fought such an opponent as Alexander Povetkin, and we both know what would have happened if he ever did... Bang bang! ;)
Yes Ali would embarrass the plodding Povetkin and most likely Ko him in the latter rounds or even make him quit on his stool.. Povetkin would touch Ali with no more than ten punches the whole fight and to not see that is terrifying,I fear for your mental health and no he never fought cans.. obviously on his way towards Liston and a few stay busy fights he did,I was pointing out the way he embarrasses them,mind you Wlad embarrasses the cans he fights but only because they sign for a fight and when they get in the ring they're subjected to a soft gay **** shoot
Remember everyone Elroy is the guy that claims Jean Mormeck has more power than George Foreman
the start of this video shows how a real heavyweight disposes of cans
Toying with them and showing his dominance
This is a video of an embarrassing heavyweight that loves to give a touch of gay **** for the fans like you in almost all his performances
Yeah, the difference being, that Muhammad Ali fought nothing really BUT cans, you said it yourself.
Whereas Wladimir Klitschko would never in a million years be ALLOWED to fight such a can!
Muhammad Ali never fought such an opponent as Alexander Povetkin, and we both know what would have happened if he ever did... Bang bang! ;)
this is a video of Wladimir winning his first title,the greatest heavyweight to ever live getting clowned by a middleweight ,He knocks down his smaller opponent in the 9th and 11th,hurting him bad in the 11th yet doesn't have the balls to finish in style
This is Mike Tysons first title win.. dominating and making an absolute joke of a champion ten times better than any one of Wladimirs opponents
the start of this video shows how a real heavyweight disposes of cans
Toying with them and showing his dominance
This is a video of an embarrassing heavyweight that loves to give a touch of gay **** for the fans like you in almost all his performances
:lol1:
I believe I was only gonna ignore you if you KEPT posting those ridiculous visitor messages.
I don't want to ignore any poster.
I find you somewhat amusing to me now, even if it's at my expense.
But your still a joke when it comes to ACTUAL boxing!
Let's not pretend now that you've ALWAYS been funny, that's only a very new trick for you.
On the contrary my old chum,I don't need to be a rocket surgeon to realise Wlad is an embarrassment to the heavyweight division,All anybody needs is the ability to see and since you lack that ability I can only imagine that you listen to the sounds of fights on youtube and you must think Wlads fights are gruelling/epic with all the groaning from two men wrestling each other,You should try asking your mum to put some gay **** on and you can just imagine Wlad being involved in an epic fisting battle with a big muscular black man
:lol1:
I believe I was only gonna ignore you if you KEPT posting those ridiculous visitor messages.
I don't want to ignore any poster.
I find you somewhat amusing to me now, even if it's at my expense.
But your still a joke when it comes to ACTUAL boxing!
Let's not pretend now that you've ALWAYS been funny, that's only a very new trick for you.
Weltsch brings more to the table here than you ever have Landa!
Yeah Wlads balls in his mouth,you pick them up,throw them and he fetches again like the little fat pug he is
More like it's you who do literally nothing but dish out inexcusable abuse.
What with the slanderous visitor messages you send me and presumably others too,
the message was because you were going to or did put me on ignore because you couldn't handle the heat I was bringing,when I enter a thread yourself and Weltz evacuate your bowls
And I've noticed your Dome post recently asking me to provide a photo of me and the missus for proof of being red-blooded.
Your mother doesn't count as your missus you know,just because she changes your nappy/diaper for you due to your carpal tunnel and inability to do it yourself.. but it's all for a good cause.I bet she doesn't mind cleaning your feces just from knowing how shiny you've made Wlads bollocks
If you can refute something with some kind of evidence, or even provide some kind of factual information of your own, then let's hear it, cause so far you've offered nothing but bashing an obviously great boxer.
All I have to do is look at a video of Wlad and realise how pathetic his performances against mediocre opponents are
It's possible to argue Vitali=GOAT he's so good, so how the HELL can you support the idea that he doesn't belong in ATG or HOF is beyond outrageous!
Its easy to argue because he looked like dick against Byrd and got facially molested against Lewis and the rest of his resume is made up of tomato cans and cab drivers that have let themselves go
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Dude, you're a pathetic dickrider. If you're 45 as you say, I feel sorry for you. I'm not having an aneurysm over it, you're the one writing these long posts, basically just to prove my point exactly.
Don't you understand that if a guy is not on the top 10 in 2008, then he's not a top 10 fighter in his first fight in March 2009? I think it's you who's dense.
You want to believe that a guy who's never been in the top 10, who's never beaten a top fighter or even a top 15-20 fighter, say like Solis.
He wasn't a top 10 fighter in 2010, but if he was included in say, February 2011 based on him scheduling a fight with Vitali rather than beating a top guy, he's obviously been artificially put into the top 10 which does not make him a top 10 fighter.
Mysteriously, they were both #10 when they fought Vitali. You have to see where they were ranked after the issue magazine updated the rankings after their previous fights. And the answer is not top 10.
Anyway, I don't expect fanboys like you to understand. And with regards to this thread , the irony is obviously lost on you as well :lol1:
Even though Vitali's resume is still horrible.
You have just been proven wrong. Accept it and let it go.
Your not wrong. LacedUp tried to sell me once he was "actually a Klitschko fan".
And yet he does almost as fanatical a job as JAB does to rubbish him with lies and BS as much as possible.
Who needs enemies when you have "fans" like that! :lol1:
I'm glad to have that prick on ignore now, his opinion is not worth even a single drop of piss in the desert!
Old Pinocchio can't help himself but make one lie after another!
I have never said I was a Klitschko fan. I have said a couple of times that I used to like Vitali pre his retirement.
How do you know JAB? He was perma banned before you came on the scene.... unless you really are hweightbloggers alt, which we all know anyway.
If you have me on ignore? Why post in my threads? :lol1: Do you realize how pathetic that is?
But I'll be glad to return the favour.
Bye bye.