PAC vs Vargas? If you believe that crap, post here or shut the pie hole..

It can happen. I think the question is not whether it's possible, but whether anyone actually believes Bob Arum is "sabotaging" the Mayweather negotiations in order to fight Vargas, which is comedic on so many levels.Exactly. If Arum even mentions Vargus, the haters treat it like the Gospel truth!! If Arum mentions Floyd, the haters say Arum is lying!! They change their stance on Arum to suit their agenda which is transparent and lame as hell! They believe what they want to believe and are delusional in their lust for hate.

if pac/algieri happened why this one can't? Because Pac-Algieri flopped. Ruslan Provodnikov was mentioned as a Pacquiao opponent, that seems more likely. Similarly, Alvarado may get the fight if he wins impressively tonight.

How the hell can anyone know what to expect when you're dealing with Bob Arum, a lying sack of horse manure? You make an entire thread to try to hold posters to beliefs based on something a noted pathological liar says? Really? The question you should ask yourself is: "Why has Arum been mentioning Jessie Vargas as one of Pac's next opponents in the first place???" Either he's lying (surprise, surprise) or he's cheating boxing fans. Plain and simple. A liar, a cheat, a thief -- that is Bob Arum. Maybe because he knows exactly the same thing everyone else knows, that the odds of Floyd suddenly having a change of heart and signing the the contract are extremely low, therefore it's a good idea to plan Vargas/Khan/etc backup plans. Arum is running a business. You guys talk like he's some random emotional fanboy following Manny around "covering up" for him. The guy is like 90 and has seen the biggest names come and go, I very much doubt he gives a ****. He has a list of fights to make in order of most profit to least profit. Nothing more to it.

if pac/algieri happened why this one can't? It can happen. I think the question is not whether it's possible, but whether anyone actually believes Bob Arum is "sabotaging" the Mayweather negotiations in order to fight Vargas, which is comedic on so many levels.

if pac/algieri happened why this one can't?

So, shoulder roll, on record for PAC vs Vargas happening before Khan or Mayweather v PAC...

Arum said recently PAC vs Vargas will not happen next

Of course Arum wants Pac vs Vargas. It's an in-house fight where he won't have to split the pot with anyone outside of Top Rank. Jessie Vargas himself is on record saying that Arum has told him he is next in line for a Pacquiao fight. 1. Pac-Vargas wouldn't even make 1/10th of the money so TR getting "both halves" is still way less. There's also a chance Pacquaio loses the fight and his career effectively ends before they get to cash out on the big fight. Doesn't make any sense from Bob's perspective ($$$). 2. Of course Vargas would say that, the same way Khan says every month the past couple years that Floyd/Pac told him he was next. Both were told to keep their calender open because they're backup plans, just like the winner of Provo-Algieri was.

So, two posts from people not wanting to go all in...any other heros?

Of course Arum wants Pac vs Vargas. It's an in-house fight where he won't have to split the pot with anyone outside of Top Rank. Jessie Vargas himself is on record saying that Arum has told him he is next in line for a Pacquiao fight.

Manny is clearly past prime so anyone who thinks Bob is protecting him or trying to give him soft opponents must be accusing Bob of hating money. I doubt that's the case. Knowing Manny only has a few fights left in him and a good chance of losing them, it's 100% in Bob's best interests to cash in right now and get him the biggest fights possible. Floyd also knows this and is probably hoping Manny either 1. Simply goes away (gets knocked out again or retires) or 2. Is left to ripen some more and get a little more desperate, saved for Floyd's final fight. Floyd has an luxurious contract locked in and a fanbase that doesn't seem to care who he fights, Kovalev or another pointless rematch they'll still buy it. Manny needs the Floyd fight more than Floyd needs the Manny fight. Bob wants to cash in his rapidly devaluing investment so he is doing everything he can to make this fight happen ASAP. Vargas? He's one of several backup plans along with Khan. They can't just call their lives off because Floyd is playing games.

I am wanting to see those who believe arum is tanking this fight for a ppv with Vargas instead...so when Floyd's next fight is not Vargas, they can be mocked

I believe it will happen at some point in time in Macau.

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