Cotto Will Put Golden Boy Out Of Business If He Fights Canelo

Canelo has talent, it's just not elite or even A level talent. The Lara fight had one round where Canelo did anything relevant and again it was only his second fight against a guy at 154 even though he'd been in the division for a while. That's the problem with Canelo and the silver spoon, his ego reached the status of a superstar before the talent did and now he won't reach that potential because of nothing but yes men. Mosley was a world champ at 154, I did know that. Did you know that was 6 years ago and Mosley went back down to 147 after that? Beating Mosley was a nothing accomplishment, Mosley was more past it than Sergio by leaps and bounds that's not even arguable. As I've stated the fight can be in NY or Vegas, Canelo loses either way. He doesn't deserve more of the money in any circumstance either. Also please bring up where I gave a sh*t about a catchweight? I've always stated a fight should be fought at division limit especially for a title, but that if you agree to a weight you really can't complain and a lot of times they're needed to get fights done. This also doesn't mean that it didn't have an affect on the fighter who was "drained." It's not A or B, it's A and B. The weight may have affected Cotto and Canelo, they weren't winning at any weight those nights. It's not hypocrisy it's seeing all the angles and taking all the information into account and making a logical decision. Even you admit that Cotto is better than Canelo yet you somehow think Canelo is going to win. He hasn't had a KO, legit KO, against a JMW yet and his last KO came at the expense of a career JWW. That tells me his power is overrated; though, it doesn't mean he hits like a Paulie. Cotto's been hurt more than Alvarez so Canelo has a better chin I would say and that's the end of anything he does better or is better at than Cotto. A better chin and MAYBE slighty better power would work against Cotto if the guy was Margarito. Canelo doesn't have the ability to cutoff the ring, pressure, throw as many punches or most importantly have the stamina to do that. Canelo could KO Cotto, it's the only way he wins but it isn't going to happen. And I disagree that he doesn't have elite talent. Not saying he's the best, but he has earned the right with his last couple of wins. I don't disagree with the silver spoon/ego part but Cotto is the same way. You're being a blind nuthugger and only looking in one direction. Taking nothing but vacant belts most of your early career isn't being fed on a silver spoon? :lol1: It doesn't matter if it was 20. I'm not saying it's a legendary win, you worded it to where it was wrong for Mosley to be at 154. If he loses, he loses. Again, blind nuthugger with saying any circumstance. The guy taking the risk away from home should get a bigger cut. That's fair, but since you love Cotto, you want everything his way without thinking fairly. Talk about obsessed with another man's success. I have EXPOSED you before with the catch weight deal. It's in my history, I'll look it up when I feel like it. You flip flopped like the Floyd stans with their catch weight issues. Canelo may win if he plays his cards right, just like Cotto. Since you mentioned bad nights before with Cotto vs Trout, you never know what what kind of night Canelo could have. We will find out if they actually fight and stop being diva bitches. *expects more crying from you regarding Cotto's money* Canelo is not a pressure fighter. Cotto is better at that department than Canelo.

I don't care if he fights in NY to be honest but he has to get a bigger piece of the pie just like Cotto deserves it if he goes to Vegas/Tx. I know I'm smarter than you, I'm 110% sure of that. I brought up Lara cause you said Canelo had no talent dude. lol Actually 2 if you count Trout. And like I said, you said he ain't shit and I told you that you're wrong. Now you're all butthurt about it. Mosley has been a world champion at 154 before as well as being a top 154 pound boxer. Look it up if you don't believe me. Let me guess, you're going to downgrade it like anything else Canelo is involved in right? Mayweather didn't really fight Canelo at 154. You know, a catch weight. Something you were totally against when Pac did it to Cotto. :lol1: Hypocrite ass. What rage mode? I red k'd you because you made a moronic post. You got all filled with revenge or some shit. I'm laughing at you also. Canelo has talent, it's just not elite or even A level talent. The Lara fight had one round where Canelo did anything relevant and again it was only his second fight against a guy at 154 even though he'd been in the division for a while. That's the problem with Canelo and the silver spoon, his ego reached the status of a superstar before the talent did and now he won't reach that potential because of nothing but yes men. Mosley was a world champ at 154, I did know that. Did you know that was 6 years ago and Mosley went back down to 147 after that? Beating Mosley was a nothing accomplishment, Mosley was more past it than Sergio by leaps and bounds that's not even arguable. As I've stated the fight can be in NY or Vegas, Canelo loses either way. He doesn't deserve more of the money in any circumstance either. Also please bring up where I gave a sh*t about a catchweight? I've always stated a fight should be fought at division limit especially for a title, but that if you agree to a weight you really can't complain and a lot of times they're needed to get fights done. This also doesn't mean that it didn't have an affect on the fighter who was "drained." It's not A or B, it's A and B. The weight may have affected Cotto and Canelo, they weren't winning at any weight those nights. It's not hypocrisy it's seeing all the angles and taking all the information into account and making a logical decision. Even you admit that Cotto is better than Canelo yet you somehow think Canelo is going to win. He hasn't had a KO, legit KO, against a JMW yet and his last KO came at the expense of a career JWW. That tells me his power is overrated; though, it doesn't mean he hits like a Paulie. Cotto's been hurt more than Alvarez so Canelo has a better chin I would say and that's the end of anything he does better or is better at than Cotto. A better chin and MAYBE slighty better power would work against Cotto if the guy was Margarito. Canelo doesn't have the ability to cutoff the ring, pressure, throw as many punches or most importantly have the stamina to do that. Canelo could KO Cotto, it's the only way he wins but it isn't going to happen.

Tell Cotto to get more fans? Tell Canelo to get more fans in NY since he can't fight anywhere outside of Vegas. You are truly unintelligent. I mean you really can't be this stupid to say a comment like that. Since you did it though, apparently you must be. Where did I say Cotto as a great warrior. I'm just asking Canelo to do it once, that somehow makes Cotto great warrior in the process? Why do you bring up Lara? I mean Canelo has 1 fight against a guy on his level and you act like that's a good thing, it's what he is supposed to do. How long as Canelo been at 154? 4 or 5 years now something like that. It took him 3 years to actually fight a JMW, fighting Mosley, Mayweather and Lopez at 154 makes Cotto look like an ATG moving up in weight. At least Cotto fought guys who were actually, you know, in that division regardless of how good they were or weren't lol. I don't even know what you were trying to say after that. Your rage mode started to come through and you thoughts turned into incoherent garbage. I don't care if he fights in NY to be honest but he has to get a bigger piece of the pie just like Cotto deserves it if he goes to Vegas/Tx. I know I'm smarter than you, I'm 110% sure of that. I brought up Lara cause you said Canelo had no talent dude. lol Actually 2 if you count Trout. And like I said, you said he ain't shit and I told you that you're wrong. Now you're all butthurt about it. Mosley has been a world champion at 154 before as well as being a top 154 pound boxer. Look it up if you don't believe me. Let me guess, you're going to downgrade it like anything else Canelo is involved in right? Mayweather didn't really fight Canelo at 154. You know, a catch weight. Something you were totally against when Pac did it to Cotto. :lol1: Hypocrite ass. What rage mode? I red k'd you because you made a moronic post. You got all filled with revenge or some shit. I'm laughing at you also.

a green canelo at catchweight ??.... but guess what canelo will still be boxings face in a couple of years, even your idol floyd admitted that... if he keeps fighting the best he will loose here and there, but he will also win some and people will love him just like they loved oscar who by the way wasnt undefeated either.. Really? If Canelo loses to Cotto who is just a total piece of sh*t at this stage who only beats cripples, what does that mean for Canelo? He still can't touch Floyd and he can't even someone who fights people on disability. That's not exactly going to draw new fans. It's okay to lose but when Floyd shuts you out and Cotto makes his face match his hair people tend to stop paying to watch you get your ass kicked. Just ask Mosley... Canelo isn't even on that level though that's giving him way too much credit. Even 40 year old Mosley landed one or two punches on a younger version of Floyd.

Rarely! The only fact I was going to use is Cotto fighting 50% of his last 8 fights fighting fighters off an injury/inactivity just in case you guys try to put Cotto on a pedestal as this godlike warrior. I know a woman, not a guy. I talk to her on a consistent basis. I already told you, I visited as well. Tell Cotto to get more fans to go to Vegas then, some Filipinos do and they need a passport to do it. I'm pretty sure it can be easier for living in a state with american citizenship. Tito didn't have that problem with having fans travel to Vegas. Because he beat Lara. Someone Cotto didn't fight AND was a top 5 rated boxer in the division. Where did I say Canelo needs a better trainer? You're confusing me with someone else. OHHHH I heard that bullshit before. Oh he's better with Santiago, Oh he's better with Stewart. GTFOH! You want to know who really improved Cotto? The strength and conditioning coach with his stamina. I still see MANY mistakes that Cotto does with Roach but his cardio has improved from the looks of it. He no longer has the "oh I'm dying" look on his face by the 4th round. Cheater...ok sure! Cotto has a better style for Mayweather. Anyone with a boxing mind can see that a mile away. Cotto wasn't even 100% for the Mayweather fight either because that is the Mayweather way. What record is this? Cotto and Canelo are different styles. Cotto at this point is slightly better. Canelo now vs a prime Cotto, Cotto by far. See! I know how it is. You don't! Tell Cotto to get more fans? Tell Canelo to get more fans in NY since he can't fight anywhere outside of Vegas. You are truly unintelligent. I mean you really can't be this stupid to say a comment like that. Since you did it though, apparently you must be. Where did I say Cotto as a great warrior. I'm just asking Canelo to do it once, that somehow makes Cotto great warrior in the process? Why do you bring up Lara? I mean Canelo has 1 fight against a guy on his level and you act like that's a good thing, it's what he is supposed to do. How long as Canelo been at 154? 4 or 5 years now something like that. It took him 3 years to actually fight a JMW, fighting Mosley, Mayweather and Lopez at 154 makes Cotto look like an ATG moving up in weight. At least Cotto fought guys who were actually, you know, in that division regardless of how good they were or weren't lol. I don't even know what you were trying to say after that. Your rage mode started to come through and you thoughts turned into incoherent garbage.

what about a rematch at 160 after Canelo beats the **** out of Cotto? or at least at 158, you know a catchweight ;) a green canelo at catchweight ??.... but guess what canelo will still be boxings face in a couple of years, even your idol floyd admitted that... if he keeps fighting the best he will loose here and there, but he will also win some and people will love him just like they loved oscar who by the way wasnt undefeated either.. wow are yall really making excuses??

I go in threads other than Cotto, you don't stop trying to act otherwise. Canelo had a bad ankle as fact... So you have a built in excuse already, I knew it. You know a guy who lives in a Vegas... lmao, stfu you know nothing about the population or local culture here. Manny has fans from all over because of his style, yes. Vegas, either with Mexican and/or Filipino fans, is Manny's home court not Cotto's which was your argument in the first place. The point is Cotto has fought outside of NY plenty of times and you spoon fed irish kid still hasn't fought outside of his house. And again you losers bring up the Lara fight. You also say Canelo would be better with a better trainer. Why can't the same be true for Cotto? I have no issues admitting he lost, it doesn't mean it's relevant to his whole career. He's a completely different fighter under Roach, the Trout fight was a bad night that happens in boxing. Go figure that Cotto's worst losses were under conditions of a cheater, no trainer and a guy who only trained amateurs. That's not excuses those are reasons and it's why Cotto is better now. The Cotto that fought Trout isn't the same guy that he is now. I fine with you thinking that, Canelo can make the same mistake and get a nice view of the ceiling after the fact. This is why I say you don't know sh*t about boxing, because you don't. I'll put it to you this way... Canelo and Cotto are different sports cars but they've been on the same track. (Mayweather) It's not a triangle theory or anything like that but it's a measuring stick. Neither guy got up for Trout like they should have and by that I mean being ready for the fight. Not that they weren't but they both wanted bigger and better things. Mayweather they were both 100% ready and prepared for and Canelo barely finished the race. Cotto set a new record, that's the difference. One guy is a GT-R the other guy is a Mustang GT. Both sports cars but Cotto is on a completely different level. Rarely! The only fact I was going to use is Cotto fighting 50% of his last 8 fights fighting fighters off an injury/inactivity just in case you guys try to put Cotto on a pedestal as this godlike warrior. I know a woman, not a guy. I talk to her on a consistent basis. I already told you, I visited as well. Tell Cotto to get more fans to go to Vegas then, some Filipinos do and they need a passport to do it. I'm pretty sure it can be easier for living in a state with american citizenship. Tito didn't have that problem with having fans travel to Vegas. Because he beat Lara. Someone Cotto didn't fight AND was a top 5 rated boxer in the division. Where did I say Canelo needs a better trainer? You're confusing me with someone else. OHHHH I heard that bullshit before. Oh he's better with Santiago, Oh he's better with Stewart. GTFOH! You want to know who really improved Cotto? The strength and conditioning coach with his stamina. I still see MANY mistakes that Cotto does with Roach but his cardio has improved from the looks of it. He no longer has the "oh I'm dying" look on his face by the 4th round. Cheater...ok sure! Cotto has a better style for Mayweather. Anyone with a boxing mind can see that a mile away. Cotto wasn't even 100% for the Mayweather fight either because that is the Mayweather way. What record is this? Cotto and Canelo are different styles. Cotto at this point is slightly better. Canelo now vs a prime Cotto, Cotto by far. See! I know how it is. You don't!

Hawaii is Hawaiian. Some Asian countries don't like each other just like the Latino side. I've been to Vegas and know someone that lives there. Pac has a following even from Mexicans because he actually goes to fight in the ring. Of course Cotto won, Cotto is on another league than Torres and Corley. Canelo lost, I have no excuses unlike the excuses Cotto stans still cry about to this day with some fights. Every time a Mexican fighter loses? I don't just like Mexican fighters, I like fighters from all around the world. You would know that if you actually go outside Cotto/PR threads. Jason Velez is one of my favorites and he's PR. I like FIGHTERS, not *******. I don't even like Marquez hardly and he's Mexican. Canelo having a bad ankle is a FACT as reported. Canelo has talent, just like Cotto does. Both are exciting fighters and are hardly in boring fights. Floyd isn't all that great because he never truly tests himself unlike other boxers. If Canelo didn't have the skill/talent he wouldn't of beaten Trout/Lara. Trout who outclassed Cotto in his fight. But your excuse would be styles makes fights huh? I go in threads other than Cotto, you don't stop trying to act otherwise. Canelo had a bad ankle as fact... So you have a built in excuse already, I knew it. You know a guy who lives in a Vegas... lmao, stfu you know nothing about the population or local culture here. Manny has fans from all over because of his style, yes. Vegas, either with Mexican and/or Filipino fans, is Manny's home court not Cotto's which was your argument in the first place. The point is Cotto has fought outside of NY plenty of times and you spoon fed irish kid still hasn't fought outside of his house. And again you losers bring up the Lara fight. You also say Canelo would be better with a better trainer. Why can't the same be true for Cotto? I have no issues admitting he lost, it doesn't mean it's relevant to his whole career. He's a completely different fighter under Roach, the Trout fight was a bad night that happens in boxing. Go figure that Cotto's worst losses were under conditions of a cheater, no trainer and a guy who only trained amateurs. That's not excuses those are reasons and it's why Cotto is better now. The Cotto that fought Trout isn't the same guy that he is now. I fine with you thinking that, Canelo can make the same mistake and get a nice view of the ceiling after the fact. This is why I say you don't know sh*t about boxing, because you don't. I'll put it to you this way... Canelo and Cotto are different sports cars but they've been on the same track. (Mayweather) It's not a triangle theory or anything like that but it's a measuring stick. Neither guy got up for Trout like they should have and by that I mean being ready for the fight. Not that they weren't but they both wanted bigger and better things. Mayweather they were both 100% ready and prepared for and Canelo barely finished the race. Cotto set a new record, that's the difference. One guy is a GT-R the other guy is a Mustang GT. Both sports cars but Cotto is on a completely different level.

From Hawaii does mean Filipino... see, I'm done with you. You're no different than Shmurda or Dazed and talking out of your ass. I don't tell you how sh*t is in Houston or NY on a local level because I don't know. In Vegas and Hawaii especially there is a huge Filipino population because it's really not that far from the Philippine islands. Manny has a huge following here because of that, this is fact. Cotto was hurt against Torress and won. Against Corley and won... Canelo was never hurt against Floyd and didn't win a round. What is your excuse for that? That's what you do best. Make excuses each time a Mexican fighter loses, they lose quite a bit no wonder you're so good at it. I can't wait to see what your excuse is after they fight. Canelo had a bad ankle? He overtrained because he is starting now? Oscar died his hair too red? It won't be any of those it'll be like I've been telling you. He's a B class fighter with the look and not the talent. Oscar has half the formula with Canelo, see, in boxing you need to have the look and the talent to make it. Manny has the talent and his look is how entertaining he is in the ring. Floyd has the persona to make you hate him but he actually has ATG talent in the ring. Cotto has talent and skill in that ring and he has a following because of his fights. Canelo... he has the look, is clean cut, respectful, well-mannered and everything a star needs, except the talent and the skill. Hawaii is Hawaiian. Some Asian countries don't like each other just like the Latino side. I've been to Vegas and know someone that lives there. Pac has a following even from Mexicans because he actually goes to fight in the ring. Of course Cotto won, Cotto is on another league than Torres and Corley. Canelo lost, I have no excuses unlike the excuses Cotto stans still cry about to this day with some fights. Every time a Mexican fighter loses? I don't just like Mexican fighters, I like fighters from all around the world. You would know that if you actually go outside Cotto/PR threads. Jason Velez is one of my favorites and he's PR. I like FIGHTERS, not *******. I don't even like Marquez hardly and he's Mexican. Canelo having a bad ankle is a FACT as reported. Canelo has talent, just like Cotto does. Both are exciting fighters and are hardly in boring fights. Floyd isn't all that great because he never truly tests himself unlike other boxers. If Canelo didn't have the skill/talent he wouldn't of beaten Trout/Lara. Trout who outclassed Cotto in his fight. But your excuse would be styles makes fights huh?

The biggest fights most of the time happen in Las Vegas, whether you're Mexican or Pinoy or whatever. From Hawaii doesn't mean he's Filipino. PRs never had a problem with Tito going to Vegas. Specially with the cheers of "Tito" in Las Fucking Vegas. So what if he was undefeated, undefeated doesn't mean he's elite. Torres was a C class hard puncher, that's it. There is no point in even telling you facts/opinions when someone like you has Cotto in their top 5 P4P list. From Hawaii does mean Filipino... see, I'm done with you. You're no different than Shmurda or Dazed and talking out of your ass. I don't tell you how sh*t is in Houston or NY on a local level because I don't know. In Vegas and Hawaii especially there is a huge Filipino population because it's really not that far from the Philippine islands. Manny has a huge following here because of that, this is fact. Cotto was hurt against Torress and won. Against Corley and won... Canelo was never hurt against Floyd and didn't win a round. What is your excuse for that? That's what you do best. Make excuses each time a Mexican fighter loses, they lose quite a bit no wonder you're so good at it. I can't wait to see what your excuse is after they fight. Canelo had a bad ankle? He overtrained because he is starting now? Oscar died his hair too red? It won't be any of those it'll be like I've been telling you. He's a B class fighter with the look and not the talent. Oscar has half the formula with Canelo, see, in boxing you need to have the look and the talent to make it. Manny has the talent and his look is how entertaining he is in the ring. Floyd has the persona to make you hate him but he actually has ATG talent in the ring. Cotto has talent and skill in that ring and he has a following because of his fights. Canelo... he has the look, is clean cut, respectful, well-mannered and everything a star needs, except the talent and the skill.

Cotto is from PR not NY so he shouldn't have a fan base there. Canelo is Mexican not from Las Vegas, he shouldn't have fans there. Floyd is from Michigan not Las Vegas, he shouldn't have fans there... That's just a dumbass comment. If you actually lived in Vegas you would know there is a big Filipino population here, especially from Hawaii. The voting signs are in english, spanish and tagalog that should tell you all you need to know about who has the hometown advantage. You were better off not talking about that subject at all. Torres was undefeated and Cotto fought him on 4 week notice or something like that as the other guy was injured. He was also like 28-0 with 26 knockouts, you'd think it was Paulie who dropped Cotto. Really there isn't even a need to get into this anymore, you can say what you want after the fight we won't see you on here for a few weeks then you'll have some excuse for Cotto winning like Canelo wasn't ever that good or his ankle was still dislocated from his body. It was tied together at his calf with his unbreakable red hair. The biggest fights most of the time happen in Las Vegas, whether you're Mexican or Pinoy or whatever. From Hawaii doesn't mean he's Filipino. PRs never had a problem with Tito going to Vegas. Specially with the cheers of "Tito" in Las Fucking Vegas. So what if he was undefeated, undefeated doesn't mean he's elite. Torres was a C class hard puncher, that's it. There is no point in even telling you facts/opinions when someone like you has Cotto in their top 5 P4P list.

Canelo will just fight someone else like lemiux and Kirkland if he loses to cotto Those are entertaining fights

All Golden Boy has left is Canelo and if those two fight Cotto will destroy him taking away the only money maker GBP has on is stable. That means GBP gets tosed to the side and Cotto Promotions moves up in the ladder. Cotto wins double! The dumbest thing I ever heard not mention your gay picture

All Golden Boy has left is Canelo and if those two fight Cotto will destroy him taking away the only money maker GBP has on is stable. That means GBP gets tosed to the side and Cotto Promotions moves up in the ladder. Cotto wins double! Did Cotto get ruined after margs destroyed him? No he didn't. Your logic is flawed bro try again

Floyd already embarrassed the kid...Oscar just acts like it never happened a green canelo at catchweight ??.... but guess what canelo will still be boxings face in a couple of years, even your idol floyd admitted that... if he keeps fighting the best he will loose here and there, but he will also win some and people will love him just like they loved oscar who by the way wasnt undefeated either..

Floyd already embarrassed the kid...Oscar just acts like it never happened what about a rematch at 160 after Canelo beats the **** out of Cotto? or at least at 158, you know a catchweight ;)

Floyd already embarrassed the kid...Oscar just acts like it never happened

GB will be fine. Canelo is young and determined. He has great character which seems to be lacking in much of the boxing mainstream with the most popular fighters right now. I don't see how Cotto beats Canelo without backing him up and Canelo is a come forward fighter

fixed it for you ;) Well Cotto/Mosley was a PPV not an undercard like Canelo/Mosley and it was 5 or 6 years after Cotto did it. Mosley was still a top notch fighter in what is now 8 years ago that was a huge fight. Cotto also beat Martinez. You can say he had a bum knee, whatever you want. It was a big fight and Cotto also won. Then again maybe you're right Cotto never won any big fights. At least he won some rounds in them though, a lot more than I can say for Canelo.

LOL only Canelo, sure. Well if it's in Vegas, Cotto deserves more of the pie in my opinion. I never denied that. Only home field was Mayweather, the other guys are from different countries fighting in the states. Yes Cotto is being a diva, I know you nuthug him to the max and you turn a blind eye towards him but you have to be fair. I'm also not denying Canelo is being a diva as well. Cotto got hurt by Torres who isn't elite so let's cut the bullshit son! I think Corely hurt him as well. Canelo vs Mayweather was a nice chess match for the first 6 rounds till Floyd started to move a lot more. On top of that, Canelo is a good style that suits Floyd while Cotto is a nice style to beat Floyd, that is why I even think Floyd ducked Cotto in his prime. Golden spoon...seriously? Cotto was fed with that spoon too! Dude takes a ton of tune ups before an actual fight. Trout was a tune up gone wrong. :lol1: Damn fan boys! Cotto is from PR not NY so he shouldn't have a fan base there. Canelo is Mexican not from Las Vegas, he shouldn't have fans there. Floyd is from Michigan not Las Vegas, he shouldn't have fans there... That's just a dumbass comment. If you actually lived in Vegas you would know there is a big Filipino population here, especially from Hawaii. The voting signs are in english, spanish and tagalog that should tell you all you need to know about who has the hometown advantage. You were better off not talking about that subject at all. Torres was undefeated and Cotto fought him on 4 week notice or something like that as the other guy was injured. He was also like 28-0 with 26 knockouts, you'd think it was Paulie who dropped Cotto. Really there isn't even a need to get into this anymore, you can say what you want after the fight we won't see you on here for a few weeks then you'll have some excuse for Cotto winning like Canelo wasn't ever that good or his ankle was still dislocated from his body. It was tied together at his calf with his unbreakable red hair.