Al Haymon paid 20 million for 24 dates on NBC

You know this sh*t is bound to fail when Haymon has to pay NBC to be on TV. MLB/CBS/ESPN they pay the NFL and NBA to be on their stations. I'm just completely lost as to how he has to pay for NBC and the fighters. How does he make money? It'd be the network handling the advertising etc... Well, whatever Haymon got kicked off HBO and is leaving the best position he could have been in running the show at Showtime. I don't think Haymon's paying anything, he has suckered in investors to pay it on his behalf. If it fails, he has Showtime as back-up thanks to Espinoza's presence. What boxing needs is for Espinoza to get fired then Haymon will have no HBO and no Showtime or at least he will be in a vastly inferior bargaining position. Duva lost her NBC connection, but she's working on getting that fight on HBO either under Kovalev/Pascal or Klitschko/Jennings (assuming it does get finalized). Duva is basically Kovalev at this point, she really needs him to keep winning or she won't have much left. Fock that tranny. If he succeeds we get more mismatches. He must fail at all cost I feel like even if he has a good year putting on good fights, the following year will be mismatches. No faith in him, history repeats itself.

I wish Haymon the worst. I hope he fails horribly. He has foked this sport up badly. Fok him and his company. I won't tune in to ANY of those dates. Holy crap now Haymons gonna close up shop because you don't tune in. Maybe, just maybe, what's fokking up boxing is fighters mowing down has beens and second rater, while screaming at the top of their lung they'll fight anyone near their weight class, the when world class opposition answers the call back pedal all to hell

20 shows on NBC Sports, formerly the Versus network? As someone stated above, that is a niche network that has to be apart of a specific package of a service provider. I really don't see that channel gaining a large audience for boxing. Boxing is already a niche sport, putting it on a channel that gets lost in the multitude of other high quality premium channels sounds like a failure before launch. I would be really, really surprised to see any success out of this deal.

lets see how this goes....

I wish Haymon the worst. I hope he fails horribly. He has foked this sport up badly. Fok him and his company. I won't tune in to ANY of those dates. You're not actually a fan of the sport of boxing. You are just a mindless troll who is a fan of violence. Actual fans of the sport will watch fights regardless of promoters or managers.

Maybe you didn't read the article but Haymon is paying THEM (nbc) to showcase his fights. Even the greatest business minds cant wrap their heads around how Haymon expects to make money on this. How does he expect to generate enough money to be able to pay the network along with his fighters who are use to big money for shiet fights? Maybe hoping advertisers will pay enough for their time slots.... also I bet they'll sell the time in between rounds.... so there's that

Although I don't like Haymon I gotta give it to him, one heck of a businessman. He just keeps getting people to buy his crap. Maybe you didn't read the article but Haymon is paying THEM (nbc) to showcase his fights. Even the greatest business minds cant wrap their heads around how Haymon expects to make money on this. How does he expect to generate enough money to be able to pay the network along with his fighters who are use to big money for shiet fights?

Haymon needs viewers to get paid. The lower the ratings the lower the advertising dollars for uncle Al. Putting on Garcia-Shalka 2 isn't going to happen. Unless Haymon wants to lose money. exactly. I'm looking forward to Haymon's shows. More "free" exposure on tv for boxing, the better...in theory. I don't expect Al Haymon to continue giving us the shyt sandwiches he fed us in 2014. Looking back and forward, it appears the soft touches in '14 were merely to protect the value of his fighters heading into this deal with NBC. in any case, time will tell

I think so If it's on both, then it may work, but NBCsport is kinda of niche channel.

It's about putting on quality cards and matchups. Not just having boxing on network television. Unless there's actual structure along with rankings and elimination bouts where the best take on the best, it will fail. Garcia/Salka type bouts aren't going to cut it. Haymon needs viewers to get paid. The lower the ratings the lower the advertising dollars for uncle Al. Putting on Garcia-Shalka 2 isn't going to happen. Unless Haymon wants to lose money.

Although I don't like Haymon I gotta give it to him, one heck of a businessman. He just keeps getting people to buy his crap.

It's about putting on quality cards and matchups. Not just having boxing on network television. Unless there's actual structure along with rankings and elimination bouts where the best take on the best, it will fail. Garcia/Salka type bouts aren't going to cut it. it will be something along the lines of what you just saw Kathy duva do on nbc. did you have a problem with those kind of fights on nbc?

You know this sh*t is bound to fail when Haymon has to pay NBC to be on TV. MLB/CBS/ESPN they pay the NFL and NBA to be on their stations. I'm just completely lost as to how he has to pay for NBC and the fighters. How does he make money? It'd be the network handling the advertising etc... Well, whatever Haymon got kicked off HBO and is leaving the best position he could have been in running the show at Showtime.

Boxing being back on network television is a win for the sport. everybody saying otherwise are not fans of boxing. It's about putting on quality cards and matchups. Not just having boxing on network television. Unless there's actual structure along with rankings and elimination bouts where the best take on the best, it will fail. Garcia/Salka type bouts aren't going to cut it.

So are these fights on NBCsports and regular NBC? I think so

Boxing being back on network television is a win for the sport. everybody saying otherwise are not fans of boxing.

Well on Fox Sports 1, Haymons shows averaged 175k-200k viewers (with a peak of 350k when Vic Ortiz fought), and Duva's NBC shows were said to have done slightly better (take into account her shows were primarily Saturday evenings vs Al's on during the week). http://sports.yahoo.com/news/roadblocks-to-boxing-getting-more-exposure-on-non-premium-tv-031733524.html Keeping in mind, if Vic Ortiz could cause a bump like that in the ratings, I imagine Broner, D.Garcia, and Maidana could all do even better. And when they bring in a good audience other guys could capture their attention (enter Peter Quillin). NBC has showcased a lot of solid hw matchups and I expect they'll continue in 2015. I think they'll prob show Cunningham-Glaskov, which should be a good fight. Duva lost her NBC connection, but she's working on getting that fight on HBO either under Kovalev/Pascal or Klitschko/Jennings (assuming it does get finalized).

Is that 20 million just a time buy or is that including production or marketing costs. It could be a really good deal, or it could be a really bad deal it all depends on what he got for that money.

If he's hoping to bring in ratings from the casual audience, he's going to have to put on some really action packed fights. Casuals can care less about the technical aspects of boxing. They just want to see punches flying and somebody getting KO'd. 2 boxers pawing, jabbing, and moving for 12 rounds wont do anything for ratings.

NBC has showcased a lot of solid hw matchups and I expect they'll continue in 2015. I think they'll prob show Cunningham-Glaskov, which should be a good fight.