Why is Timothy Bradley rated #5 on ESPN's Pound for Pound list?

because thats espn and shouldnt be considered a valid rank system for p4p

you loss me at Bradley is a boxer/puncher. bradley is a elite fighter for sure. boxer/puncher he is not. a boxer puncher is someone who wins fights doing both. Thomas hearns was a boxer puncher. roy jones was a boxer puncher lennox lewis was a boxer puncher james toney was a boxer puncher juan manuel marquez was a boxer puncher Fernando vargas was a boxer puncher tim bradley is not What i mean by bradley being a boxer/puncher is that he has enough pop to wobble you in there. A puncher doesnt necessarily mean you can ko a guy with one shot at any given moment, that fall under the ko puncher category... bradley dropped witter, peterson, wobbled abregu, nearly dropped marquez, rocked pacquaio, i mean if thats not as clear as day that he can punch a little bit then i dont know what is.. he aint paulie for goodness sakes!

What really doesn't make sense... Is that he's #7 p4p in the Ring ratings, but in their WW ratings, he's #4 behind Kahn and Brooks. How are you among the ten best in the entire sport, but your own division just barely in the top five? Nobody here has yet answered my question about this - I'm curious if anyone has a logical explanation of this. It truly boggles my mind ESPN's is curiously stupid as well. JMM is ranked #3 p4p, even though he hasn't done anything meaningful since 2012, Bradley is #5 p4p even though he hasn't done anything meaningful since 2013 - but one look at their WW rankings they have Bradley as their #3 WW and JMM as their #4 WW. So which one is it? The stupidity is astounding

Should Bradley be rated top 5 p4p? Absolutely. Dude's resume speaks for it self. Only two fights he lost were the Pacquiao fights. Pacquiao being an ATG. Guy totally beat easily Alexander when he was undefeated, one of only 2 guys to legitimately beat JMM, and despite what the groupies here say he clearly beat Provodnikov and Chaves. Only knock I have against him is that he ducked Khan when both were at the top of the 140 division.

Keith thurman is a ko puncher.... bradley is more of a boxer/puncher cuz he has pop, but he relies heavily on his skills to beat guys. He has alot of finness in the ring. you loss me at Bradley is a boxer/puncher. bradley is a elite fighter for sure. boxer/puncher he is not. a boxer puncher is someone who wins fights doing both. Thomas hearns was a boxer puncher. roy jones was a boxer puncher lennox lewis was a boxer puncher james toney was a boxer puncher juan manuel marquez was a boxer puncher Fernando vargas was a boxer puncher tim bradley is not

An eye can swell like that from literally one punch. Did Pacquiao not clearly outpoint Clottey, either? Or Cotto up to the point it was stopped? And that happened to Bradley because of headbutts. Bradley was robbed. if you didn't see the fight and you looked at both fighters face it was clear cotto took the worst beating. so that's a bad example. the clottey fight is a better example of the point your trying too make. with that being said. even if you think Bradley won. a win over chaves and a loss to pacquiao in 2014 doesn't merit being top 5 p4p in 2015.

Bradley in the top 5 is fair enough.

Keith Thurman stopped him Keith thurman is a ko puncher.... bradley is more of a boxer/puncher cuz he has pop, but he relies heavily on his skills to beat guys. He has alot of finness in the ring.

http://larrybrownsports.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/12/timothy-bradley-eye-face.jpg does this look like a man who clearly outpointed somebody? sweet pea/chavez Bradley/pacquiao lewis/holyfield 1 those are robberies Bradley wasn't robbed. back too my original point, Bradley hasn't won a fight since 2013. you cant go a year and a half without winning a fight and remain top 5 p4p. I like Bradley, but he is rated too high at number 5 An eye can swell like that from literally one punch. Did Pacquiao not clearly outpoint Clottey, either? Or Cotto up to the point it was stopped? And that happened to Bradley because of headbutts. Bradley was robbed.

that was almost 2 years ago. since then, Bradley has lost too pacquiao and went life and death with diego chaves in a draw. Bradley is a good fighter but his stock is trending down and that is why he shouldn't be ranked ahead of guys like froch and wlad Life and death???:thinking: Bradley clearly beat chaves!

is anyone gonna argue that bradley is not the number 3 in boxings hottest division? so hes gotta be at least in the discussion of p4p, you dont get points for losing but lets not forget, he did win 4 rounds vs pac in the rematch and thats coming off a brutal fight vs ruslan, so he is not too far the top 2 guys in the division marquez is a steroid specimen of epic proportions and bradley beat him This is one i agree with you on jas.:boxing:

He did have two big wins in 13' and outside of the Pacquiao fight he has performed at a much larger level than most. Outside of not fighting Khan to fight Pacquiao, I can't remember when Tim has ran or ignored a challenge. The Chaves fight was a robbery, and the reason why that weekend in boxing was discredited judges, full of questionable calls and altogether by most who watched a horrific weekend in boxing. you are bringing up wins from 2013. its 2015, and Bradley went 0-1-1 in 2014. 5 is too high

He undeniably belongs in the top 10.

Doesn't belong there. I don't even have him in the top 3 WW's. I had him losing both Pac fights and losing to Provodnikov.

The reason is mainly his clear defeat of Marquez, Marquez is old but he had recently KOed Pacquiao and beat the hell out of Alvarado and was ranked in the top 4 or 5 pfp. when Bradley clearly beat him. Bradley has lots of great wins and only one official loss. Yes he really clearly lost twice to Pacquiao but that is no disgrace. Perhaps number 5 pfp is a bit high but I think he deserves to be somewhere in the top 10 pfp.

http://larrybrownsports.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/12/timothy-bradley-eye-face.jpg does this look like a man who clearly outpointed somebody? sweet pea/chavez Bradley/pacquiao lewis/holyfield 1 those are robberies Bradley wasn't robbed. back too my original point, Bradley hasn't won a fight since 2013. you cant go a year and a half without winning a fight and remain top 5 p4p. I like Bradley, but he is rated too high at number 5 He did have two big wins in 13' and outside of the Pacquiao fight he has performed at a much larger level than most. Outside of not fighting Khan to fight Pacquiao, I can't remember when Tim has ran or ignored a challenge. The Chaves fight was a robbery, and the reason why that weekend in boxing was discredited judges, full of questionable calls and altogether by most who watched a horrific weekend in boxing.

Bradley very well could be argued to take #3, if Rigondeaux wasn't such a monster. Would like him to take a big fight next year against another credible opponent, although I don't see him taking Rigondeaux spot.

He did not go life and death with Chaves. He pretty clearly outpointed him and was robbed. http://larrybrownsports.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/12/timothy-bradley-eye-face.jpg does this look like a man who clearly outpointed somebody? sweet pea/chavez Bradley/pacquiao lewis/holyfield 1 those are robberies Bradley wasn't robbed. back too my original point, Bradley hasn't won a fight since 2013. you cant go a year and a half without winning a fight and remain top 5 p4p. I like Bradley, but he is rated too high at number 5

He did not go life and death with Chaves. He pretty clearly outpointed him and was robbed. 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he wasn't robbed. the fight could have went either way

that was almost 2 years ago. since then, Bradley has lost too pacquiao and went life and death with diego chaves in a draw. Bradley is a good fighter but his stock is trending down and that is why he shouldn't be ranked ahead of guys like froch and wlad He did not go life and death with Chaves. He pretty clearly outpointed him and was robbed.