Chavez is a PPV fighter, Golovkin isn't (yet)
Which is why I don't understand why Golovkin gets so much flack for wanting to fight Chavez before Ward. Let him test the waters first before he jumps in with Ward (whenever it may be possible to actually get in the ring with him). It's the same thing with Lara. I want to see Golovkin fight him but I want to see Lara at 160 first so as to alleviate any excuses that if he loses, it wasn't because it was a weight he had never fought at. If he moves up and defeats a credible MW, then that fight becomes more reasonable. As I see now though, however skilled Lara may be, and he is, if Gennady just so happens to go through him as he's been doing everyone else, I can see the excuses coming that he was just another blown up JMW. But I digress. Back to Chavez and Ward. It would behoove GGG to fight someone at SMW before Ward, so as to see how he acclimates to the weight. Chavez would be ideal especially to see how Golovkin's power translates against the sturdiest opponent there probably is. Fighting Chavez isn't a duck on GGG's part; hell, Ward wanted to fight him too. Does that mean he was ducking other challengers in LHW? No. Money talks. It would be beneficial for Golovkin/Ward if at least one of them had a PPV fight. If Golovkin gets it first, so be it. I want to see this fight just as much as anyone else, but certain things have to happen first (which have been debated ad nauseum at this point) for this fight to start becoming more realistic.
This is true but it's one thing putting Carl down and another keeping him down/making him quit. Even the best of chins can be cracked that's for sure and I do favor GGG in the fight but only barely and froch can crack too and is the bigger man with more proven pro record so I don't see GGG walking through his shots and completely intimating him with his power etc like he can to the guys at 160. I see it going into the late rounds and who knows how the extra weight would affect GGG then?
I agree on that - can't see GGG going through Carl as he does with MW's. However I don't agree that Carl wouldn't care about GGG's punches.
Phenomenal fight! My favourite that can be made in boxing today.
I would choose GGG by TKO in late rounds (11 or 12).
But it is dangerous fight. It can take a lot from both fighters. It would be as brutal as it gets.
Chavez vs Vera 2 didn't even come close to selling out meanwhile Golovkin's last fight was sold out months in advance and K2 had to increase the arena capacity to fit more people in.
Chavez is a PPV fighter, Golovkin isn't (yet)
Chavez vs Vera 2 didn't even come close to selling out meanwhile Golovkin's last fight was sold out months in advance and K2 had to increase the arena capacity to fit more people in.
I agree that people underestimate his pulling power considering who he is fighting he is getting good numbers
I take it that you agree then that when GGG is calling Froch he is not making any step up?
GGG wouldn't fight Froch anyway, he's happy feasting on bums in the MW division. He's only calling out Froch because he knows that Carl only has one/two fights left and is looking to cash out & thus wants bigger fish.
GGG & his team claim they'll fight anyone, but not Ward lol. What a P*ssy. He needs to become a real man like Carl Froch and step up
I take it that you agree then that when GGG is calling Froch he is not making any step up?
Ricky Hatton has fought more times lately than Ward. When was the last time Ward had a fight? 2010? If Ward was going to come out of retirement he would have already, because there is a big money fight with Kovalev at 175 waiting for him, but he's too scared
Ward would school Kovalev badly. I was just pointing out the hypocracy of GGG fantards. Claims he'll fight anyone, yet when it comes to Ward it's all about the $$$.
Ward fight will happen in due time. GGG and his trainer are eager to fight anyone, but managers and promoter are also thinking bout making most money in the process.
But both Ward and GGG is on another level than Froch.
Froch fight is a gimme fight for GGG.
GGG & his team claim they'll fight anyone, but not Ward lol. What a P*ssy. He needs to become a real man like Carl Froch and step up
Andre Ward said he'd fight him. Team GGG suddenly went very silent....
Ward fight will happen in due time. GGG and his trainer are eager to fight anyone, but managers and promoter are also thinking bout making most money in the process.
But both Ward and GGG is on another level than Froch.
Froch fight is a gimme fight for GGG.
Who is there with the pulse?
They are all playing dead when there is any mention of GGG. Including Froch and his promoter...
Andre Ward said he'd fight him. Team GGG suddenly went very silent....
Easy fight for GGG. That is why GGG wants this fight, while Froch not so much.
Even on his best day Froch ability was not equal to GGG, but by now he is very close to being a shot fighter.
At 168 only Ward is equal to GGG in abilities, but if they fight right now, GGG would KO Ward also. (due to Ward being rusty. He was rusty even in Roriguez fight).
GGG has achieved nothing in boxing. Get off his d1ck until he actually beats someone with a pulse.
These GGG fanboys are something else lol
Easy fight for GGG. That is why GGG wants this fight, while Froch not so much.
Even on his best day Froch ability was not equal to GGG, but by now he is very close to being a shot fighter.
At 168 only Ward is equal to GGG in abilities, but if they fight right now, GGG would KO Ward also. (due to Ward being rusty. He was rusty even in Roriguez fight).
We kind of overestimate Carl's chin. He's been down from lesser opponents in Taylor and Groves.
Problem is that despite GGG winning comfortably on Froch's initiated poll (funs choosing his opponent) Carl doesn't want to fight. Chaves is a bit more lucrative and much much easier so I understand why he's going that direction. Too bad - that would be great fight to watch.
This is true but it's one thing putting Carl down and another keeping him down/making him quit. Even the best of chins can be cracked that's for sure and I do favor GGG in the fight but only barely and froch can crack too and is the bigger man with more proven pro record so I don't see GGG walking through his shots and completely intimating him with his power etc like he can to the guys at 160. I see it going into the late rounds and who knows how the extra weight would affect GGG then?
There are reasons why both guys could win. One thing is for sure froch would take him into deep waters ... be interesting to see how GGG would fare after 8-9-10 rounds pounding against a guy who's taking everything he's got and is still firing back.
We kind of overestimate Carl's chin. He's been down from lesser opponents in Taylor and Groves.
Problem is that despite GGG winning comfortably on Froch's initiated poll (funs choosing his opponent) Carl doesn't want to fight. Chaves is a bit more lucrative and much much easier so I understand why he's going that direction. Too bad - that would be great fight to watch.