Oh this is going to be a damn good fight. Can't wait to see it. This is what I expect from Haymon in 2015.
those are golden boy's plans, we can only hope that haymon approves...
... If Golden Boy told him, then Golden Boy it is.
... But don't understand what's Santa Cruz's business at the featherweights? Difficult division (with Gonzalez, Walters, Lomachenko etc)... Well...
That is the fight that fans want!
It can also help raise a fighters stock. If he even took the fight with Rigondeaux he would get big credit let alone if he was remotely competitive.
He'd learn more from that fight than all these cherrypicks together.
If its about money then why won't he fight Frampton in Belfast? Frampton as I am sure you know does crazy numbers, he has a whole country behind him.
Is it because his team know he losses that fight?
How can you call yourself a world champion if you're scared to risk your undefeated record?
Quigg also a big draw and is a winnable fight for him I don't understand it.
No casuals will just see a guy being totally outclassed thus knocking down Santa from the pedestal he is on right now
Mexicans love him
Also the loss will take confidence away from Leo
Timing is everything.
I'm sure Quigg, Frampton, Santa Cruz and even Mares will eventually get in the ring.
I'm sure when Frampton KO's Avalos and draws another 16,000 fans like he did against Martinez, then they'll push for a Frampton vs Quigg fight in the UK.
Wouldn't be surprise if the winner of that fight meets the winner of a Mares/SLC fight in the fall of 2015.
Just because the fights don't happen the moment you want them to, doesn't mean anyone is ducking.
Frampton vs Mares is another dream fight for me.. I wouldn't know who to root for :lol1: Anyway sounds like a plan, I really hope it downs pan out the way you see it.
Huge numbers. You are right, I just thought that Abner could pick up a belt at 122 and become a power player at SBW again :)
At this point I don't think Abner really cares about the titles. He's interested in big fights now. If he beats LSC which I believe he will, he could fight Frampton, Quigg, heck he might even get a fight with Donaire, which I believe can still be a big fight.
That is the fight that fans want!
It can also help raise a fighters stock. If he even took the fight with Rigondeaux he would get big credit let alone if he was remotely competitive.
He'd learn more from that fight than all these cherrypicks together.
If its about money then why won't he fight Frampton in Belfast? Frampton as I am sure you know does crazy numbers, he has a whole country behind him.
Is it because his team know he losses that fight?
How can you call yourself a world champion if you're scared to risk your undefeated record?
Quigg also a big draw and is a winnable fight for him I don't understand it.
Timing is everything.
I'm sure Quigg, Frampton, Santa Cruz and even Mares will eventually get in the ring.
I'm sure when Frampton KO's Avalos and draws another 16,000 fans like he did against Martinez, then they'll push for a Frampton vs Quigg fight in the UK.
Wouldn't be surprise if the winner of that fight meets the winner of a Mares/SLC fight in the fall of 2015.
Just because the fights don't happen the moment you want them to, doesn't mean anyone is ducking.
Don't matter what weight, the fight will be exciting.
If they put it on a Cotto/Canelo undercard, you're talking big PPV numbers.
Huge numbers. You are right, I just thought that Abner could pick up a belt at 122 and become a power player at SBW again :)
Dude Santa been with al haymon for years
Santa credits haymon to being rich now when he was extremely poor beforehand
Santa himself is not ducking these guys
He even said himself he might lose to rigo but if that's the fight the fans want then so be it- when someone is so brutally honest I take them for their word
A loss does damage a fighter's stock and fighters' handlers realise that - this is the reason for the matches we saw this year
Casuals know nothing about boxing- they are the problem. They can easily be fed bullsh1t.
Like I said anybody who thinks these fighters are scared of other fighters are being naive. They fight to provide for their families. If Leo could make more fighting rigo he would
That is the fight that fans want!
It can also help raise a fighters stock. If he even took the fight with Rigondeaux he would get big credit let alone if he was remotely competitive.
He'd learn more from that fight than all these cherrypicks together.
If its about money then why won't he fight Frampton in Belfast? Frampton as I am sure you know does crazy numbers, he has a whole country behind him.
Is it because his team know he losses that fight?
How can you call yourself a world champion if you're scared to risk your undefeated record?
Quigg also a big draw and is a winnable fight for him I don't understand it.
My only question is the weight. If at 122 then Leo's title would be at stake? I see it pointless if it's at a catchweight of 124, 126 would be good but would Leo jump in weight class without previously testing waters? Regardless I am stoked about this brawl.
Don't matter what weight, the fight will be exciting.
If they put it on a Cotto/Canelo undercard, you're talking big PPV numbers.
My only question is the weight. If at 122 then Leo's title would be at stake? I see it pointless if it's at a catchweight of 124, 126 would be good but would Leo jump in weight class without previously testing waters? Regardless I am stoked about this brawl.
They are now what about for the last 18 months when Hearn and so on was making offers and they was calling him out? He was contempt on being quiet and fighting unranked bums moving up several weights and old fogies.
All smoke and mirrors, he will get mopped if he ever grows some balls. He is a total fraud. The very definition of a paper champion hiding behind the 'promoter' excuse.
Everyone gives Stevenson sh*t for this but this guy is no better. At least Stevenson has fought legit opposition.
3 excuses for not fighting 3 separate world champions.
Leo isn't ducking anyone.
He isn't going to the UK to fight Quigg because he doesn't have to. Something Quigg himself acknowledged. I'm sure we'll see a Santa Cruz vs Quigg or Frampton fight soon. Probably after Mares/LSC and Frampton/Quigg which in itself is a huge fight in the UK.
He wanted nothing to do with Quigg before he was injured.
He wants nothing to do with Frampton despite it being a much bigger money fight than Mares and for a world title.
He won't fight Rigondeaux because of networks, hes a runner etc
Truth = Sh*t scared of fighting anyone with a pulse.
Dude Santa been with al haymon for years
Santa credits haymon to being rich now when he was extremely poor beforehand
Santa himself is not ducking these guys
He even said himself he might lose to rigo but if that's the fight the fans want then so be it- when someone is so brutally honest I take them for their word
A loss does damage a fighter's stock and fighters' handlers realise that - this is the reason for the matches we saw this year
Casuals know nothing about boxing- they are the problem. They can easily be fed bullsh1t.
Like I said anybody who thinks these fighters are scared of other fighters are being naive. They fight to provide for their families. If Leo could make more fighting rigo he would
Frampton is fighting his mandatory in Avalos. Quigg got injured while fighting a nobody and won't be available until the summer.
LSC isn't ducking anyone.
They are now what about for the last 18 months when Hearn and so on was making offers and they was calling him out? He was contempt on being quiet and fighting unranked bums moving up several weights and old fogies.
All smoke and mirrors, he will get mopped if he ever grows some balls. He is a total fraud. The very definition of a paper champion hiding behind the 'promoter' excuse.
Everyone gives Stevenson sh*t for this but this guy is no better. At least Stevenson has fought legit opposition.
3 excuses for not fighting 3 separate world champions.
Quigg has hand injury
Lsc wants that fight
I'm tired of all this "scared" talk
Fighters aren't scared to fight other fighters
Stop being so naive
Lsc named his son after al haymon himself for goodness sakes. He's gonna listen to whatever he says.
LSC claims he wants the fights they've already turned down Quigg by saying they won't travel to the U.K after openly saying he would!
He won't fight Frampton either or Rigondeaux. He is moving up to avoid all the champions and threats to fight a very vulnerable overachiever that is trying to rebound from a devastating loss.
Every fighter feels nerves and gets scared, they're only human at the end of the day. Some bite the bullet others tremble.
It seems they only sign with Haymon as an excuse to avoid tough fights though I think this whole its upto my promoter excuse wore thin along time ago, like they have no say in who they fight.
Lara a Haymon fighter spoke up and got a big fight with Canelo as did many others. Stevenson, LSC and so on are just looking for easy fights whilst hiding behind a weak excuse.
Yeah its also their fault he hasn't the balls to fight Quigg or Frampton either.
Frampton is fighting his mandatory in Avalos. Quigg got injured while fighting a nobody and won't be available until the summer.
LSC isn't ducking anyone.