Floyd claims he is a proud American so why not fight on fourth of July independence day weekend one of the biggest weekends when it comes to families staying home to have bbq parties with friends and family or to go out to the movies.
One would think this would generate more PPV buys for Floyd. 2015 fourth of july lands on a Saturday so it would be perfect for an American boxing star to fight on that day.
it would be the american thing and righteous thing to do.
but somehow a black american with no ties to mexico has to have a mexican holiday.
you people make me sick.
Mexican-AMERICAN holiday buddy. Even Mexican-Americans will tell you Sept 16 > May 5th
It's not complicated so why are you trying to make it an issue. Floyd has been on Cinco de Mayo for years now. Canelo had his chance and lost so why does he get to just take it over? It can't be because he beat Floyd, because he didn't. Do you think Canelo is a bigger draw than Floyd, is that why he gets that date? Or is it just because he's Mexican?
If he gets that date just because he's Mexican, why does he need Cotto's drawing power to bump Floyd? Canelo is the bigger draw than Cotto according to you, so he should be able to bump Floyd with just about anyone shouldn't he?
The fact is as simple as this. Your boy had a chance to take that May date over, he got absolutely embarrassed in the ring. His diva attitude can't comes to grip with the fact that he lost and that ruined getting that "day" for him. Canelo is fine fighting on Floyds undercard the rest of his career as long as he fights in May, it seems to be all he cares about.
It's simple, but you just don't seem to get it.
Again, if May/Pac gets done for May 2nd, Canelo is willing to concede the date.
However if that fight doesn't get made, then he's willing to challenge Mayweather and Showtime for the date.
Nothing to do with pride or anything else, it's about money. The date generates money. Hence the reason Mayweather likes to fight on these dates, he knows it's the time a lot of people tune in to boxing. Canelo doesn't want it because he's Mexican, he wants it because it will give him the best chance to make $$$$$
Everyone seems to be able to understand it but you. You just hate Canelo, and it's obvious from your first post.
It's not complicated so why are you trying to make it an issue. Floyd has been on Cinco de Mayo for years now. Canelo had his chance and lost so why does he get to just take it over? It can't be because he beat Floyd, because he didn't. Do you think Canelo is a bigger draw than Floyd, is that why he gets that date? Or is it just because he's Mexican?
If he gets that date just because he's Mexican, why does he need Cotto's drawing power to bump Floyd? Canelo is the bigger draw than Cotto according to you, so he should be able to bump Floyd with just about anyone shouldn't he?
The fact is as simple as this. Your boy had a chance to take that May date over, he got absolutely embarrassed in the ring. His diva attitude can't comes to grip with the fact that he lost and that ruined getting that "day" for him. Canelo is fine fighting on Floyds undercard the rest of his career as long as he fights in May, it seems to be all he cares about.
This a good example of the many morons on this site they don't get it. It's about making the most money on the most profitable day. Who cares how many times floyd fought on that day or what cotto ppv is compared to Canelo it doesn't matter. Why would a man step a side for another man so he can make money and the other man lose money? People not see how retarded that is? Really boggles the mind the amount of morons on this site.
That would be OK but he been fighting May and September this long, that is not going to change for a guy that is not even a Draw Yet in Boxing and who PPV Events both Turned up AVERAGE NUMBERS!
Canelo can WAIT! If he wanted those dates bad enough...ALL HE HAD TO DO WAS BEAT MAYWEATHER, WHICH HE COULDN'T DO!
These cats don't get it yet. Floyd is never dictated to. He moves when he wants to move. If it's May 2nd then team Pac must oblige.
This boy should be happy he even gets 40million, the boy still got Marquez problems.
in the history of the sport the A side has always dictated the venue... bob arum does this everytime hes the Aside he even pays promoters off to step away, makes fighters sign to his team, sets up the date and place of the fight, etc,
never in the history of the sport has the Bside dictated when the fight would be. how anyone could side with this Arum character is beyond me
It'll Sell but it wouldn't top off as much as it would in May.
Who is trying to stay inside watching boxing at 10:30-11:00 on the 4th when you could be doing any number of thing's outside on a Saturday summer night?
It really isn't an issue. DLH and Canelo both agreed that if Mayweather/Pacquiao gets made for May 2nd then Canelo would concede the date to Floyd.
However he won't concede the date for a Mayweather/Khan fight. Nothing really complicated about it. People just like to argue anything Floyd/Pacquiao related.
bob arum is the issue, pac and floyd have always been ready to fight IMO
The imagery of your words and the truth you speak man.. It's too real. Nobody cares what the A-side in the Canelo-Cotto fight has to say. Cotto has been quiet this whole time, not saying a peep. When did the B-side(Pacquiao, Canelo) started bossing around and making demands to the A-side(Cotto, Mayweather)? This is the first time in history where the B side makes ultimatums and demands to the A-side. That's total bs from a historical and logical point of view.
great post!!!!!!!!!
It really isn't an issue. DLH and Canelo both agreed that if Mayweather/Pacquiao gets made for May 2nd then Canelo would concede the date to Floyd.
However he won't concede the date for a Mayweather/Khan fight. Nothing really complicated about it. People just like to argue anything Floyd/Pacquiao related.
It's not complicated so why are you trying to make it an issue. Floyd has been on Cinco de Mayo for years now. Canelo had his chance and lost so why does he get to just take it over? It can't be because he beat Floyd, because he didn't. Do you think Canelo is a bigger draw than Floyd, is that why he gets that date? Or is it just because he's Mexican?
If he gets that date just because he's Mexican, why does he need Cotto's drawing power to bump Floyd? Canelo is the bigger draw than Cotto according to you, so he should be able to bump Floyd with just about anyone shouldn't he?
The fact is as simple as this. Your boy had a chance to take that May date over, he got absolutely embarrassed in the ring. His diva attitude can't comes to grip with the fact that he lost and that ruined getting that "day" for him. Canelo is fine fighting on Floyds undercard the rest of his career as long as he fights in May, it seems to be all he cares about.
If Floyd doesn't get the Pacquiao fight, and Canelo/Cotto gets made, Floyd will be forced to move. It's not up to him to give up the date, it's up to Showtime, and seeing how they've already lost money on Floyd, I very much doubt they'll want to compete with HBO that night. Many writers have even speculated that Floyd would either take a vacation till the fall or fight a week before the May weekend.
Canelo won't duck the fight. This is the fight he wants. Let us not forget he tried fighting Cotto in March instead of Angulo, but Cotto turned down the fight in order to fight Martinez. He has also said IF May/Pac gets made he's willing to move the date, but till then he's wanting the fight in May. How is wanting the fight on a date that would generate you more PPV buys ducking the fight to you? Because it's not on a date you like? Cause you're PR and would rather see it June 9th?
It's not about the fight date making sense to you, you pompous moron; it's about it making sense to the fighters, and May 5th makes sense because it would generate more money!
Cotto is the Champion and I agree there are certain things Canelo should concede, but let's not act like he's the bigger draw. Both fighters are big draws. Last PPV bouts drew about the same, and in their only common opponent on PPV Canelo drew 2 Million while Cotto's drew 1.5. Not to mention asking for a date that is known to generate big money is not dictating terms! It's just common sense.
If Canelo was asking for the fight to be on his birthday weekend or some stupid thing, then I would say you had a point. I would say, Canelo is being difficult to negotiate with and is looking for a way to duck the fight, but that is not what is happening. All he's asking is for a date in which both fighters would make the most money. But again your deep rooted hatred for Canelo won't allow you to see that.
Instead you're here with idiotic statements like Canelo can't dictate $h!t and Canelo is afraid to fight in NY.
You aren't too smart are you? You are making A LOT of assumptions and have no clue on anything.
You're assuming May doesn't fight Manny.
You're assuming Floyd will not fight May 2nd
You're assuming the fight with Cotto gets made.
You're assuming Cotto agrees to fight in Vegas
You're assuming Cotto agrees to fight on May 2nd
You're assuming Cotto will take 50% of the money.
See all the assumptions you're making? Looking at it without Canelo's **** blocking your face, why would this fight make so much sense on that date but not another one? Because it brings in more money? Please PROVE to me that having a fight on May 2nd generates more money. Pac fought Hatton and Mosley on that date and he still generated more buys with JMM and Cotto when fights weren't on that day.
So you can say it's "best for the fighters" to fight on that day and sound like a 3 year whiny b*tch but again I'll answer it and hopefully you'll understand. It doesn't matter what date a big fight is on, it will always sell. No one, NO ONE is going to say I refuse to watch Cotto/Canelo because it's not on Cinco de Mayo. The date as someone said is like another St Patriks Day in the US. It's not a 3 day weekend, no one gets extra days off for work there is absolutely no difference in that Saturday than any other Saturday.
As for who is the better draw, all I read was Canelo did better than Cotto once, and it was the worst performance of his career. A lot of people watched him get his ass kicked and nothing more, that doesn't help your stock. Plus... if we want to look at PPV numbers... Canelo's 3 best numbers combined are 2.8 million. Cotto's best performances combined are 3.3 million... Cotto's a better draw. Need more proof? Canelo's last two numbers are Cotto's worst numbers in his entire career, so that's your proof. One good number where he needed Floyd and then a drop off of 2 million buys when Floyd left is not drawing power, that's called hype that died last Cinco de Mayo.
Canelo can't do a damn thing on his own. Canelo is like a 3 year old trying to push you while you're blocking the door, you feel him on you but it's irrelevant. The only time Canelo is even a threat to Floyd is if Cotto comes and help do the pushing and Cotto isn't interested.
The imagery of your words and the truth you speak man.. It's too real. Nobody cares what the A-side in the Canelo-Cotto fight has to say. Cotto has been quiet this whole time, not saying a peep. When did the B-side(Pacquiao, Canelo) started bossing around and making demands to the A-side(Cotto, Mayweather)? This is the first time in history where the B side makes ultimatums and demands to the A-side. That's total bs from a historical and logical point of view.
fk it....lets fight on may 2nd, lets do this once n for all
(FANS GO CRAZY, THE COWARD FINALLY SPOKE)
no its disrespectful to mexicans...
but what about hatton and mosley? they were fought on..
CUTS in.... i cant disrespect those mexicans...
(FANS LOOK FOR A WAY TO DEFEND IT)
yeah floyd fight on another day, fight in july since you are american
why cant floyd switch his date? hes scared
floyd is ducking if he doesnt fight in july
may 2nd is another excuse by floyd to duck again
the end.....
It really isn't an issue. DLH and Canelo both agreed that if Mayweather/Pacquiao gets made for May 2nd then Canelo would concede the date to Floyd.
However he won't concede the date for a Mayweather/Khan fight. Nothing really complicated about it. People just like to argue anything Floyd/Pacquiao related.
fk it....lets fight on may 2nd, lets do this once n for all
(FANS GO CRAZY, THE COWARD FINALLY SPOKE)
no its disrespectful to mexicans...
but what about hatton and mosley? they were fought on..
CUTS in.... i cant disrespect those mexicans...
(FANS LOOK FOR A WAY TO DEFEND IT)
yeah floyd fight on another day, fight in july since you are american
why cant floyd switch his date? hes scared
floyd is ducking if he doesnt fight in july
may 2nd is another excuse by floyd to duck again
the end.....
Floyd claims he is a proud American so why not fight on fourth of July independence day weekend one of the biggest weekends when it comes to families staying home to have bbq parties with friends and family or to go out to the movies.
One would think this would generate more PPV buys for Floyd. 2015 fourth of july lands on a Saturday so it would be perfect for an American boxing star to fight on that day.
Yeah and he should come out in Apollo Creed All American gear and definitely fight a Russian, is Provodnikov Russian and does he have time in his busy schedule to beat up another old man?
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I would LOVE a Independence Day PPV. Money May vs Amir Khan/ US vs England, on the day our Great Country declared its independence:usa1::unitedsta:usa::usa2:
So Floyd isn't going to fight on that weekend out of the goodness of his heart? You're an idiot plain and simple. Floyd will fight that weekend and if Canelo/Cotto do it will outdraw Floyd vs anyone not named Manny. But, it's really stupid business because moving it to June will give it no competition and make more money. It isn't anything personal against Canelo, I don't know the guy but he is literally going to duck Cotto because he would have to fight 4 weeks later and 3,000 miles away.
Also the fight only makes sense to a Mexican or Canelo fan, I'm neither. Being that I'm a Cotto fan and puerto rican, then the fight makes more sense in NY on June 9th. Taking out the bias for each fighter what are we left with?
Cotto is the better proven draw.
Cotto has been in the game longer.
Cotto is champion.
What exactly does Canelo bring to this situation to dictate any terms again? Because he's Mexican and it's Cinco de Mayo weekend? He did get to fight on that date last year and he got Peyton Manning in the Super Bowl type of a loss. If he'd won that fight no one could argue with him, your or anyone else. He didn't win so he, like you, need to rub some sand in your sensitive p*ssy and deal with it. Canelo is not in the driver's seat, Floyd is MAY DAY and if Canelo wants to stay on Floyds undercard (albeit on a different channel) all the power to him. He's just an absolute fool you're all too happy to defend.
If Floyd doesn't get the Pacquiao fight, and Canelo/Cotto gets made, Floyd will be forced to move. It's not up to him to give up the date, it's up to Showtime, and seeing how they've already lost money on Floyd, I very much doubt they'll want to compete with HBO that night. Many writers have even speculated that Floyd would either take a vacation till the fall or fight a week before the May weekend.
Canelo won't duck the fight. This is the fight he wants. Let us not forget he tried fighting Cotto in March instead of Angulo, but Cotto turned down the fight in order to fight Martinez. He has also said IF May/Pac gets made he's willing to move the date, but till then he's wanting the fight in May. How is wanting the fight on a date that would generate you more PPV buys ducking the fight to you? Because it's not on a date you like? Cause you're PR and would rather see it June 9th?
It's not about the fight date making sense to you, you pompous moron; it's about it making sense to the fighters, and May 5th makes sense because it would generate more money!
Cotto is the Champion and I agree there are certain things Canelo should concede, but let's not act like he's the bigger draw. Both fighters are big draws. Last PPV bouts drew about the same, and in their only common opponent on PPV Canelo drew 2 Million while Cotto's drew 1.5. Not to mention asking for a date that is known to generate big money is not dictating terms! It's just common sense.
If Canelo was asking for the fight to be on his birthday weekend or some stupid thing, then I would say you had a point. I would say, Canelo is being difficult to negotiate with and is looking for a way to duck the fight, but that is not what is happening. All he's asking is for a date in which both fighters would make the most money. But again your deep rooted hatred for Canelo won't allow you to see that.
Instead you're here with idiotic statements like Canelo can't dictate $h!t and Canelo is afraid to fight in NY.
If Mayweather/Pacquiao happens then the date could be moved. But up into now, and for the past 5 years there is no indication that a Pac/Mayweather fight will happen.
Because of this, it is why Canelo has been pushing for the May 5th dates. Unless Pac/Mayweather somehow comes off, then we're looking at a Cotto/Canelo fight in May, which is the one that makes the most sense.
While people will still buy the fight in June, the fight will sell better in May. I don't know why it's so hard for you to understand that? Must be a personal thing you have against Canelo.
So Floyd isn't going to fight on that weekend out of the goodness of his heart? You're an idiot plain and simple. Floyd will fight that weekend and if Canelo/Cotto do it will outdraw Floyd vs anyone not named Manny. But, it's really stupid business because moving it to June will give it no competition and make more money. It isn't anything personal against Canelo, I don't know the guy but he is literally going to duck Cotto because he would have to fight 4 weeks later and 3,000 miles away.
Also the fight only makes sense to a Mexican or Canelo fan, I'm neither. Being that I'm a Cotto fan and puerto rican, then the fight makes more sense in NY on June 9th. Taking out the bias for each fighter what are we left with?
Cotto is the better proven draw.
Cotto has been in the game longer.
Cotto is champion.
What exactly does Canelo bring to this situation to dictate any terms again? Because he's Mexican and it's Cinco de Mayo weekend? He did get to fight on that date last year and he got Peyton Manning in the Super Bowl type of a loss. If he'd won that fight no one could argue with him, your or anyone else. He didn't win so he, like you, need to rub some sand in your sensitive p*ssy and deal with it. Canelo is not in the driver's seat, Floyd is MAY DAY and if Canelo wants to stay on Floyds undercard (albeit on a different channel) all the power to him. He's just an absolute fool you're all too happy to defend.