***8207;@OscarDeLaHoya @adriansoto2002 only if Pac maywether happens, Canelo will move from May.
it's all on Arum. don't want to hear this excuse again.
Manny said he will fight for free
For charity .... Floyd declined!
It's too bad you don't remember why this came up. Floyd said that Manny is desperate ..... Manny then went on to respond the way he did to state that that is not the reason that he wants the fight.
Why ask? The pillow gloves are a given. All fighters who got the ability to KTFO him shall wear pillows. It's also supported by his fans by the way. Maidana's one and only asset against floyd had been taken away from him, poor thing.
Deeper into a corner? How can that be with all them roadblocks from Floyd?
"I was offering Manny $40 million (2012). Now Manny will not even get that"
Manny said he will fight for free
The fight between pac and floyd IMHO will NOT happen.
CLETO REYES = NO FIGHT
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come on flowmos!!! Can you really defend coward sh^t like that?
Can you imagine it all gets signed up and Floyd pulls a stunt like he did with Maidana on Manny 24 hours before the fight? It would be hilarious!
Floyd did it before, he can do it again.
Team Pac backed deeper into corner. Im hopeful but im sure theyll cone up with something else
Deeper into a corner? How can that be with all them roadblocks from Floyd?
"I was offering Manny $40 million (2012). Now Manny will not even get that"
***8207;@OscarDeLaHoya @adriansoto2002 only if Pac maywether happens, Canelo will move from May.
it's all on Arum. don't want to hear this excuse again.
Link Please !
Why no one has figured this out is a big puzzle to me when all you need is common sense.
From the very beginning, after his rehab, oscar is seriously into this return to boxing former glory business principle as part of his life-long rehab program; I am guessing these guys who haven't figured this date dilemma bull***** are most probably the same guys who said that Oscar the cross-dresser is gonna go down after the evil-plotting schaeffer had left him, now everyone of those silly guys are eating crows because guess what Oscar is doing well and good.
"The best revenge is living your life well" Take that cynic guys!
canelo fought nonames, maravilla is a well recognized name among latinos, just cuz cotto failed on his ppv vs maravilla doeasnt mean maravilla is a noname...
and by the way on that date canelo fought on sho for free putting good numbers
and chavez-maravilla did less than expected, and lets not forget he sold out the mmg while the other fight took place within a few blocks, all that when he was only 21... like it or not get it in your head canelo is fighting on that date unless floyd and manny man up...
Cotto sold more than Canelo in terms of PPV buys... how would that make it a failure? I know Canelo fought on Showtime for free, the numbers for Chavez/Martinez were actually more than anticipated it did 400k. They weren't expecting that much and it was the debut on PPV for both guys. Canelo didn't reach that when he had just been on PPV with 2.2 million buys and being on Floyds undercard his entire career.
But hey, keep thinking Canelo is some savior or in some special leverage position. He can fight in May and forgot fighting Cotto or that PPV money though, but hey at least he's fighting in the US on a Mexican holiday right?
I can;t believed this, hundreds upon hundreds of boxing scribes bloggers boxing sites ABC CBS MSNBC CNN sprts BBC sports Fox sports ESPN sports Yahoo sports and not a single one can get a word from Al Haymon? not even F l o y d h y p e.com? :pat:
Instead of moving Canelo off the date of the supposed Pac/Floyd fight why not put him on the undercard vs Cotto. That would give the fans what they want. It would be a boxing supercard. But of course in the world of boxing if it sounds too good to be true it usually is.
Well then him and Oscar are really, really stupid. The last time he went up against a PPV was when Martinez fought Chavez and that did better than Canelo's numbers without Floyd. I don't see how that is raising his stock.
canelo fought nonames, maravilla is a well recognized name among latinos, just cuz cotto failed on his ppv vs maravilla doeasnt mean maravilla is a noname...
and by the way on that date canelo fought on sho for free putting good numbers
and chavez-maravilla did less than expected, and lets not forget he sold out the mmg while the other fight took place within a few blocks, all that when he was only 21... like it or not get it in your head canelo is fighting on that date unless floyd and manny man up...
No. I'll continue embarrassing you because I'll finish the quote for you as it says in the article.
"The players were joined by other customers visiting during the weeklong Chinese Labour Day holiday.
What's that say there? Who also brings in big fish from Asia and in much higher droves than Floyd? This little Asian guy named Manny Pacquaio and where I stated earlier that his fights are better for the economy because of that. Didn't I say these WEEK LONG events bring in more money than a one night fight? I did.
So, you're best example of Floyd helping the economy is Chinese labor day, Cinco de Mayo and a Floyd fight. Keep posting owning you never gets old.
Eh urea and Dunn really worship Floyd like he is some super important powerful person. They see him as a black man with power which is false, he only has power in certain circumstances, let's see if he loses and retires how his name carries weight. Also Floyd is no more famous than pacquiao. Before Floyd fought oscar, pack an was a star in boxing headlong ppm with Floyd as his biggest fan, everyone who knows Floyd know pacman. So there name is about equal. The difference is there are some Asians who only know pacman but do t know Floyd, but in America everyone who knows Floyd knows who PAC is.
Also Floyd ticket prices cost an arm and a leg, so most people who are not millionaires don't have any left to gamble, while PAC tickets are cheaper and those in attendance have some money to play.
Floyd's not a good business man, he is only good at being greedy. Businessman can run and sustain a business that helps generate longevity, his brand is nothing, because he has no endorsement deals, if his name carried weight he would be able to make millions already outside of boxing on clothing, shoes etc.
Floyd generates money for MGM grand, they make it seem like Floyd is bringing in so much more money that he can ease the cities financial woes, not true. Mgm grand needs Floyd the city doesn't, some at MGM is the one who probably knows someone and convinced the city not to put Floyd to prison. The city can give two shts about him.
LMAO......Floyd will never give Pac 50-50 cut and Arum will never accept a dollar less
its not going to happen,we've been here before many times before,just let it go people,Floyd is talking **** as usual because he knows if its not Pac then Cotto vs Canelo in May ****s his PPV
Dude, stop it. There's a reason hotel prices go up, hundreds of stars come into town, bookies generate more cash, and casinos huge site fees. Every normal person knows that's what I'm saying is the truth. U want to hate and lie. Go ahead. It's kinda pathetic. But I'm not gonna waste my time arguing with a person who should know better.
Do you have any poll.data pie chart to backup you statement?
i dunno how much the split will matter in this case. the ppv split is gonna totally be in floyds favor probably 60-40 or 70-30. the guaranteed money is what matters. and that wont have anything to do with the split. is there enough money to gurantee both guys to satisfy them? im thinking floyd gets near 70-100 and manny near 40-60.
and they said arum is greedy
Now the small issues oh; just thought bout this now : arum gonna say pac cant fight in vegas what bout cowboy stadium - but lets get the minor details out the way
No horsehair gloves - floyd
10 million lb penalty overweight - pac
Ring size - pac
Olympic testing - floyd
Minor details
No horse hair gloves - Floyd/unjust
10 mill/lb penalty - Pac/justified Floyd cheated on the scale on a catchweight fight
Ringg size - Floyd - Olympic size pool ring measurement
Floyd style drug test - Floyd
90 = 10 split - Floyd
No ppv share - Floyd
only on showtime - Floyd
no arum or no fight - Floyd
Pac should give TMT promorion at least 2 fights - Floyd
mommy dionisia should not be allowed to watch the fight - Floyd fans
erc.. etc..
It was a tough back and forth affair but Bobby with the 11th round KO and Shmoney Dance afterwards in celebration.
Because he knows how to link something in a boxing forum? It certainly isn't the content of that article because it clearly states chinese people on vacation from their labor day playing baccarat lol.
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