Bob Arum is not stupid when it comes to money...he knew Manny last PPV would have bad numbers but he did it anyway...And He knows Manny VS Vargas will bomb worst.
So can someone tell me whats up Bob Arums sleeve?
for the #2 boxer in the world Algeirie was a horrible fight for pac man and it became worse when you clowns came on here talking about how good of a win it was making threads that algeirie could beat mayweather. and pac ditching the WW division to go down to 140 while everyone else is looking to move up from 140 not to mentione all the up and coming WWs who look promisinng is even worse but of course it will be defended because its pac man. he needs to fight a champion or solid WW next jesse vargas even being mentioned is sad. These are things that cant be refuted, its sad
For the right amount of money, Arum will put his own mother in the ring with Pacquiao.
#truth yet floyd fans is saying arum is keeping pac away from floyd but arum has put together some of the biggest fights before floyd and manny came along.
i honestly think manny and bob arum is BOTH using eachother. people complain that bob is ripping manny off but manny doesnt really have to do much to get paid. manny gets a guarantee of $20mil or so every fight. some argue that he should be getting more and bob is ripping him off. but for a guy like manny who came from nothing, do u think he wont be able to benefit from $20mil while doing basically nothing but train and show up to fight? bob does all the talking, promoting, etc. bob uses manny's name and fame to get paid while manny uses bob's connection and knowledge to get paid in return.
I scratch my head everytime i think about Manny signing back with Arum
how so?? i am a pac fan and honestly i think manny wont be able to handle being on his own and by all means i am not trying to justify pac staying with arum. he doesnt have the knowledge and people around him to get the job done for him plus he has too many stuff on his plate. if he decided to go out on his own i give him a year max before it all crashes down.
staying with arum, manny doesnt have to do anything. all he has to do is show up to the photoshoot and the press, then go train and show up and collect his check on fight night. why would someone in manny's position with 20 different things on his mind decide to leave bob and add more shiiet to his "to do list"? look at the other guys, floyd and cotto, what other duties do they have in their life besides boxing?
Compared to Algeri he has a fanbase...yes
If he has a bigger fanbase it's only because he's Mexican and they have bigger families than white people usually. Those the only fans either of those guys have.
***By the way that isn't racist it's called a joke before some idiot tries to report me.
Bob Arum is not stupid when it comes to money...he knew Manny last PPV would have bad numbers but he did it anyway...And He knows Manny VS Vargas will bomb worst.
So can someone tell me whats up Bob Arums sleeve?
Bob Arum is not stupid, but Pac worshippers are. With the gates, PPVs, sponsorships and site fees paid by the host of the fight, Arum makes a ton of money on Pac fights. However, in spite of what he says, Bob Arum doesn't actually pay Pacquaio $20 million per fight as he claims. The idiots on this site believe everything Arum tells them, but the contracts submitted to the commissions don't lie. So Arum will make anywhere from $30 to $50 million off of a Pac fight. He only pays Pac $6 million plus a percentage and walks away with $20 to $30 million in profit for himself.
Why do you think he refused to make Pacquaio/Marquez V? It was because Marquez was demanding too much of the profits and Arum is not going to stage a fight where he does not walk away with 80 percent of the money.
He did. I disliked the fight as much as you did but we have to be realistic here mayne.
You're missing Solis and Mosley for Pac. Pac's is better.
I never said Oscar never made Manny. Actually if I remember correctly, Pac vs Marquez 3 fight sold pretty good and maybe broke a record.
Last 3 fights, yea I closely give it to Floyd but only cause of Canelo. Pac's win over Bradley is close to that and I see Rios/Algeri being even with 2 fights with Maidana(not in terms of excitement).
Pacquiao is a WW as much as Floyd is a Jr. Middleweight. Ya dig?
lol@rios/algieri being better than maidana........get real you idiot.
Benefits? Pac should be retire if one of his younger top rank fighters at 140 beat Pac they become a new star , a new star he can promoter for the next 8 to 10 years.. Arum is looking to make new stars
Philipinos have what's called "debt of gratitude" which most westerners don't even know exist, Mr. Larry sir.
^^^^^ you got to be kidding me :) what does that even mean?
I guess Pacquiao's gratitude helped him get off Gary Shaws lap and hop into Arum's lap.
Look.....Robert was a bad opponent too.....but atleast Robert has a name a fanbase.....Algeri is a complete nobody
When did Guerrero mysteriously have a fan base?
If you wanna believe that
HAHA..Algeri had momentum and hype..HAHA
He did. I disliked the fight as much as you did but we have to be realistic here mayne.
That is highly debatable..and Oscar made Manny too..before Manny his ppv sells were sh1t......both were champs before Oscar..Oscar made them cash cows..
Since 2007
Manny has-
David diaz
Marquez-like 3-4 times
Oscar
Margo
Cotto
Clottey
Hatton
Bradley-2 times
these are the name worth mentioning
floyd has
Hatton
shane
oscar
cotto
juan
canelo
maidana
marquez
both hace had great fights and lately floyd has had the better fights,earlier manny had the better fights
You're missing Solis and Mosley for Pac. Pac's is better.
I never said Oscar never made Manny. Actually if I remember correctly, Pac vs Marquez 3 fight sold pretty good and maybe broke a record.
Last 3 fights, yea I closely give it to Floyd but only cause of Canelo. Pac's win over Bradley is close to that and I see Rios/Algeri being even with 2 fights with Maidana(not in terms of excitement).
Ortiz and berto were ww's man
ruslan and algeri were at 140 while manny was a ww...how can you try to ignore the difference?
Pacquiao is a WW as much as Floyd is a Jr. Middleweight. Ya dig?
Ortiz was a big win over Berto and Maidana was a big win over Broner but go ahead and think they werent.
Who did Rios beat to get Pac...oh thats right he didnt beat anybody he lost
Who did Algeri beat? Provo who is now 1-2 on the big stage and just had an embarrasing fight against JLC.
Yeah those are legit
Would you consider that sucker punch not just 1 but two legit?
Rios and Algeri had a combined 0 fights at ww man...and Guerrero's resume is better then both combined..that is how bad those fights were in all honesty
How many ww fights have JMM and Hatton combined when Foyd fought them?
i think he could get a greater share of the money with in-house fights?
also it raises the profile of top rank signed fighters when they fight pac
.....or keeps the fighters wanting to stay under top rank if they think they could fight pacquaio in the future
but manny got paid a lot for algeiri
23 mil guarantee not including ppv cut and back end
I would highly doubt there is any backend or ppv cut with numbers that low... I'm sure he has to hit a quota before seeing a residual.
I scratch my head everytime i think about Manny signing back with Arum
Philipinos have what's called "debt of gratitude" which most westerners don't even know exist, Mr. Larry sir.
Alex Ariza has already answered that question.
Bob controls the books on all Pac fights, this allows him to keep Manny in the dark about how much he should REALLY be making.
If he co-opts with a big promoter on a Pac fight, then he must open the books to more eyes, and those new eyes would know how much he is screwing Manny.
Manny has to not care....im pretty sure somebody has told him about him being screwed...hell even Floyd brought it up.
And he re signs with him..Manny clearly doesnt care too much about money