Did old school boxers have more skills?

So Sugar Ray Robinson was a trashass fighter? :pat: Only on NSB. Yes compared to 70s-90s looks bad sloopy and missing mutiple advances they had in movement so why you did the head face makes you look stupid not people like us who can see what I said is true you obviously can't see good

Fighters in the past were 100 x better that pussayazz fighters today. The BEST fought the BEST back then. Today we get fanboys justifying why the best are fighting chumps. Champs back in the day fought a hundred plus times, fighters today fight like twice a year. Fighters in the past = LEGENDS. Fighters today = PUSSAYS :headbang:

So Sugar Ray Robinson was a trashass fighter? :pat: Only on NSB.

the difference is striking to you because you need to see it in 1080p to appreciate it. that's your problem. i'm in my 20's, started watching boxing as a kid and grew to admire many a current fighter. i'd watch fights, interviews read articles and often times look for who might be a certain fighters favorite fighter. i gauge my opinion on not just what i see, but on what the people who've written, who've seen, who actually do this **** for a living think, because, well, they'd know better. there are people who've been a round long enough to see fighters of the past and fighters of the present and as far as i'm concerned, whether biased or not, their opinion's worth a little more to me, because they're taking a lot more into consideration then someone such as yourself has seen. I'd like to know your opinion regarding this hw era in comparison to the era of the 60s-70s. that'll be fun. Joe Louis fought in black and white and this dude had SO MANY SKILLS ITS CRAZY. He can counter, slip, roll! I ALWAYS respected his skills. I later on found out that he had the top 3 plus minus in boxing history alongside Floyd. SRR was a trashazz fighter and people like you make me not respect him. He is an awful fighter. But be honest and dont overrate him because if you do it just brings me all the way down.

MurkaMan I hate Floyd with a passion and have nothing personally against SRR. Floyd has fought a class of opposition objectively about 500x better than that which Robinson fought! It's obvious! No boxer can REALLY have 200 fights against QUALITY opponents. When you delete all the bums off the record, you find out that Robinson fought about only 20 decent opponents and struggled with many of these guys. The guy swings for fences and has zero regard for any kind of defence. He struggled with a punch bag bum called LaMotta, the very definition of limited plodder. And this guy is considered the very EPITOME of boxing skills in times past! Pathetic! Allot of these boxing fans make me not like or respect SRR or SRL because of how they lie about them. We dont even have to talk about Floyd because this dude has the best skillset that the sport will ever see but when I say that Im labeled a flowwmo. We can talk about Pacman. I think he would batter and murder a fighter like SRR.

Possibly but I personally think boxers like Hopkins, Ward, Floyd, Jennnings, Wilder and Arreola are all first rate boxers among others. Jennings, Wilder, and Arreola??? What have they accomplished, exactly?

The difference is skills of modern fighters (about 80s+) favourably compared with the skills of past fighters, is SO STRIKING that there can be no reasonable debate about it and anybody who claims otherwise is either... - Lying - Has never actually seen enough representative of both to compare objectively - Is far below a standard of intelligence enough to make an observation. - Is brainwashed by the "Old Time Nut Bag" community. the difference is striking to you because you need to see it in 1080p to appreciate it. that's your problem. i'm in my 20's, started watching boxing as a kid and grew to admire many a current fighter. i'd watch fights, interviews read articles and often times look for who might be a certain fighters favorite fighter. i gauge my opinion on not just what i see, but on what the people who've written, who've seen, who actually do this **** for a living think, because, well, they'd know better. there are people who've been a round long enough to see fighters of the past and fighters of the present and as far as i'm concerned, whether biased or not, their opinion's worth a little more to me, because they're taking a lot more into consideration then someone such as yourself has seen. I'd like to know your opinion regarding this hw era in comparison to the era of the 60s-70s. that'll be fun.

It's primarily in American boxing that there's been a drastic dip in talent, and it's reflected by the country's increasingly woeful results in international amateur competition. Possibly but I personally think boxers like Hopkins, Ward, Floyd, Jennnings, Wilder and Arreola are all first rate boxers among others. I just think there competition overseas and borders has just gotten so much better. It was easy for Americans to LOOK better in times past when they mainly only ever fought each other.

It's primarily in American boxing that there's been a drastic dip in talent, and it's reflected by the country's increasingly woeful results in international amateur competition.

MurkaMan I hate Floyd with a passion and have nothing personally against SRR. Floyd has fought a class of opposition objectively about 500x better than that which Robinson fought! It's obvious! No boxer can REALLY have 200 fights against QUALITY opponents. When you delete all the bums off the record, you find out that Robinson fought about only 20 decent opponents and struggled with many of these guys. The guy swings for fences and has zero regard for any kind of defence. He struggled with a punch bag bum called LaMotta, the very definition of limited plodder. And this guy is considered the very EPITOME of boxing skills in times past! Pathetic!

The only footage of Ray Robinson, he was past prime(but still good). It would be like if we only sawfootageof 147 Floyd without looking at his Lightweight career. Who knows how good/vicious he boxed when still had all of his legs. True but people look at THOSE bum fights and judge off of that! Besides at 147, Floyd's plus minus shot through the roof! Thats another thing that makes him better to me. He dedicated himself more, and in his late age he improved. After the Mosley fight, his plus minus was 30, and goes down as the top 3 in boxing history. SRR was a bumazzz fighter Im sorry but this dude SUCKED!

http://www.picgifs.com/reaction-gifs/reaction-gifs/no-smh/no031.gif Take this opportunity to learn something today. Watch the whole video but 53 seconds and 4:08 are the most pertinent sections. Of course there were exceptions, but the modern stance still offers better built in defense. Otherwise why don't we still stand and move like Jim Jeffries?

People wont admit it but those fighters SUCKED. Go back and watch Ray Robinson, he was the absolute best in his era and this dude was slow, flatfooted, and he would swing powershots from his hips. In HIS era he was fast. But this dude is a bum compared to Pac and Floyd. The only footage of Ray Robinson, he was past prime(but still good). It would be like if we only sawfootageof 147 Floyd without looking at his Lightweight career. Who knows how good/vicious he boxed when still had all of his legs.

i don't think there's been this mythic quantum leap in skillset and athletic ability that alot of the modern era cheerleaders seem to subscribe to. there is very little that has changed in boxing over the last 75 years and those changes have little to do with what is supposed to take place in the ring. The difference is skills of modern fighters (about 80s+) favourably compared with the skills of past fighters, is SO STRIKING that there can be no reasonable debate about it and anybody who claims otherwise is either... - Lying - Has never actually seen enough representative of both to compare objectively - Is far below a standard of intelligence enough to make an observation. - Is brainwashed by the "Old Time Nut Bag" community.

i don't think there's been this mythic quantum leap in skillset and athletic ability that alot of the modern era cheerleaders seem to subscribe to. there is very little that has changed in boxing over the last 75 years and those changes have little to do with what is supposed to take place in the ring.

Modern Boxing stance >>>>>> Old school one's. Plus how far old school are we talking? http://www.picgifs.com/reaction-gifs/reaction-gifs/no-smh/no031.gif Take this opportunity to learn something today. Watch the whole video but 53 seconds and 4:08 are the most pertinent sections.

Good post. For sure the trainers were more knowledgeable in the past. This statement is impossible. And totally retarded. It is not even possible in theory that the past trainers were more knowledgeable than the current ones because todays trainers have taken everything from past trainers and built upon or refined it. And they utilise the latest in training aids and researched methods. It's about as moronic as claiming that 19th century medical doctors were far more knowledgeable than today.

As a whole previous eras had a richer talent pool, partially because there was a much larger talent pool to begin with, and today, there simply aren't enough trainers with the technical knowledge to pass on to fighters. More and more you see gold glovers becoming trainers etc and that's awesome in one way but at the same time the absence of true masterful boxing minds training many fighters who are more active than fighters are today even at the championship level has an effect on the way boxing is taught and the methodologies passed on in many places. Good post. For sure the trainers were more knowledgeable in the past.

It's not a myth, it's a fact as far as USA born fighters. It's nowhere near what it once was. In every single decade, the fighters, trainers, journalists of the past have been claiming how terrible boxing has become now, how the art of it is dying and so on.. Since the 1870's and thought every decade until today, just as you've claimed here. So I guess, instead of like all other sports, boxing has been getting ****ter and ****ter and ****ter since the moment of it's inception. Wake up! This is the first time in history that a major portion of fans have woken up and realised that this is the best era BEFORE the era is in the past!

Blah blah blah again over & over again, someone who thinks he knows so much but is NOT involved in the sport? Why isn't this boy a fighter or trainer at least a manager or promoter. He knows so much about the game. WHY?? Because he is here to get a rise out of people, that's all. Just another day in Tooools dream world! "peeleft: on you sonny! go away! Ray. I was a one time fighter and a I did help coach and was involved in boxing. I do not HAVE to be involved at some great level to be able to perform a boxing analysis! And apply common sense! It's proven by YOU! For all your credentials, you have NO common sense, and are capable of NO ****ing decent analysis. You think Jack Dempsey could beat ANYBODY because he had "2 handed power and determination!" Dempsey.. Who was a sub Cruiser. Who never even fought a decent HW let alone beat one. Amazing stuff there Ray!