Frazier vs klitschko

So joe who beat Ali since be beat ali means he can beat a way more advanced klit people are crazy idiots joe looks way to outdated to even last a round all of those 70s fighters do

Imo a prime joe Frazier with the style/skill and heart could offer some serious problems for wlad if they fought .. If it was 15 rounds like the old days I see wlad losing 3-5 fights .. Frazier is Contatantly on your chest and moving his head beautifully while being aggressive with those hooks.. I feel it would be a long night for wlad Is this a joke? Frazier gets flattened badly he has NO chance beyond bum rushing Wlad and he is only beating the first version of Wlad. Wlad would bounce him like a beach ball and would make quick work of Frazier less the first scenario.

I like prime ken norton to KO vlad

Frazier gets Laurence Cole as referee and knocks out Wladimir with a left hook to the balls.

vitali is even lesser odds for fraizer since vitali has an iron jaw. wlad will win most likely with his jab and grab but his chin is shaky so 1/10 chance fraizer can get a KO

fraizer was like 210 pounds. wlad wins most nights unless he has a lamon brewster moment

Only crazy people picked joe he was outdated would be destroyed by klit

Chambers would get iced by Frazier. Joe's left hand was very accurate and Chambers defensive style would only negatively effect his punch output. I find it laughable that y'all are defending guys that have fallen to much lesser opposition already. Eddie Chambers has only ever lost to elite eschelon fighters.. Klitschko, Povetkin and Adamek. And one prospect that most nut bags who never watch modern boxing have never seen heard of. It all becomes apparent though when you look at his record and then his image and realise he looks like this.. http://boxrec.com/media/images/thumb/6/65/ThabisoMchunu.jpg/240px-ThabisoMchunu.jpg There is no comparison between the opponents of Eddie Chambers was done in by and Joe Frazier. Joe Frazier would fail to land a single meaningful punch on Chambers who would totally clown him. Take a good hard look at these 4 guys who managed to beat Chambers. Anybody who thinks Joe Frazier could beat Eddie Chambers is a ****ing idiot!

*Alert* Someone never watched the fight. We did see the fight. Peter did win both. They were close fights. But Peter got him nonetheless.

You do realize he literally outboxed toney twice right? *Alert* Someone never watched the fight.

Samuel Peter BEAT Toney 2ce. Samuel Peter BEAT McCline (who of course will be a handful because he weighs 260-270lbs!) Samuel Peter has a good record against good opponents and knocked most of them out cold. Nobody is claiming Samuel Peter is Sugar Ray Leonard. But he was extremely DANGEROUS. Frazier was NOT dangerous with respect to non-bummy, real HW opponents like Peter was. Fact! Oh sure, Peter getting beaten up by the Klitschko's is supposed to be a proof that he is bad and Frazier was better than Peter is it? What rot. Samuel Peter would knock Frazier out with 1 punch as would both Klits. Eddie Chambers? Show me a SINGLE HW Frazier fought whom was faster than Chambers? Show me a single HW whom Frazier fought who was defensively better than Chamber's? And I'll even let you pick among Frazier's cruiser opponents too! Chambers would outbox Frazier 7 days a week! Chambers would get iced by Frazier. Joe's left hand was very accurate and Chambers defensive style would only negatively effect his punch output. I find it laughable that y'all are defending guys that have fallen to much lesser opposition already.

Samuel Peter BEAT Toney 2ce. Samuel Peter BEAT McCline (who of course will be a handful because he weighs 260-270lbs!) Samuel Peter has a good record against good opponents and knocked most of them out cold. Nobody is claiming Samuel Peter is Sugar Ray Leonard. But he was extremely DANGEROUS. Frazier was NOT dangerous with respect to non-bummy, real HW opponents like Peter was. Fact! Oh sure, Peter getting beaten up by the Klitschko's is supposed to be a proof that he is bad and Frazier was better than Peter is it? What rot. Samuel Peter would knock Frazier out with 1 punch as would both Klits. Eddie Chambers? Show me a SINGLE HW Frazier fought whom was faster than Chambers? Show me a single HW whom Frazier fought who was defensively better than Chamber's? And I'll even let you pick among Frazier's cruiser opponents too! Chambers would outbox Frazier 7 days a week! Haters forgot all that when Vitali undressed and stopped him, ruining him in the process. Typical.

Sam Peter was so **** all the way through his career from being handled by James Toney, to being smacked around by McCline and to being outboxed by Eddie Chambers and don't get me started on him flat out taking 3 absolute horrendous beatings from the K bros. The only people who are ever trying to hype him up are 1) people who don't know anything about boxing or 2) people with an agenda. We know some people in this thread are a combination of the two. Samuel Peter BEAT Toney 2ce. Samuel Peter BEAT McCline (who of course will be a handful because he weighs 260-270lbs!) Samuel Peter has a good record against good opponents and knocked most of them out cold. Nobody is claiming Samuel Peter is Sugar Ray Leonard. But he was extremely DANGEROUS. Frazier was NOT dangerous with respect to non-bummy, real HW opponents like Peter was. Fact! Oh sure, Peter getting beaten up by the Klitschko's is supposed to be a proof that he is bad and Frazier was better than Peter is it? What rot. Samuel Peter would knock Frazier out with 1 punch as would both Klits. Eddie Chambers? Show me a SINGLE HW Frazier fought whom was faster than Chambers? Show me a single HW whom Frazier fought who was defensively better than Chamber's? And I'll even let you pick among Frazier's cruiser opponents too! Chambers would outbox Frazier 7 days a week!

What is it with Klitschko fans pretending Sam Peter was good? You realize he's the absolute last fighter you want to prop up as an example of the evolved, too big athlete, right? He got his ass whipped by obese super middleweight James Toney. You do realize he literally outboxed toney twice right?

Sam Peter was so **** all the way through his career from being handled by James Toney, to being smacked around by McCline and to being outboxed by Eddie Chambers and don't get me started on him flat out taking 3 absolute horrendous beatings from the K bros. The only people who are ever trying to hype him up are 1) people who don't know anything about boxing or 2) people with an agenda. We know some people in this thread are a combination of the two.

You're winning the horrible contest. This is just dreadful. Painful to read. But nevertheless, every word of it true.

Samuel Peter came up with a solid pedigree, he fought opponents whom you don't know the names of. A quick analysis of his beaten opponents makes it clear that Peter fought more dangerous and better opponents than Frazier OR Foreman (prime Foreman). If Samuel Peter would never have been allowed to pad his record against such weak opponents as Frazier and Foreman, if he was, he'd knock every single one of them out. Obviously! Take Frazier, pump him full of steroids, make him triple as strong, give him a much harder punch, a much harder chin, give him 2ce the experience against real HW opponents and THERE'S your Samuel Peter. George Foreman ducked Earnie Shavers, a very poor mans Sam Peter with a much weaker punch, half the strength and a glass jaw by comparison and far worse skills. What makes you think he'd be brave against Peter? Samuel Peter would be the biggest, strongest, most powerful and hardest chinned boxer either Foreman or Frazier had ever faced and with the most real 200+ HW experience of all of them. He would immediately knock Frazier straight out cold. He and Foreman might have a good fight tbh. I would definitely tip Peter to win. If the K-bros brought Peter in to lose, why is it then that in one of those fights, Wladimir was caught by big punches 3 times knocking him down? Could it be that Peter was a dangerous opponent and that the K-bros should be credited for beating such a dangerous one? According to you, Wladimir crumbles under pressure and his chin is susceptible to hard punches. So why would you discredit an opponent like Peter who applies constant pressure and has one of the hardest punches? You're winning the horrible contest. This is just dreadful. Never pay again for live sex! | Hot girls doing naughty stuff for free! | Chat for free!

The Klitz brought Peters in like 4 times to loose. The set up was bought buy their fans because Peters was the perfect looking guy. A big chested black man who the Klitz fans were intimidated by!!! hahaha!!!! The guy was ordinary at best and another rube who stood in front and did nothing! Same senerio over and over another guy who doesn't try to win. Get paid be safe go home!! Foreman KO's Peters extremely quickly! Frazier doesn't get hit by him and Joe chops him down in 3 or 4 rounds! Who did peters ever beat? Ray. Samuel Peter came up with a solid pedigree, he fought opponents whom you don't know the names of. A quick analysis of his beaten opponents makes it clear that Peter fought more dangerous and better opponents than Frazier OR Foreman (prime Foreman). If Samuel Peter would never have been allowed to pad his record against such weak opponents as Frazier and Foreman, if he was, he'd knock every single one of them out. Obviously! Take Frazier, pump him full of steroids, make him triple as strong, give him a much harder punch, a much harder chin, give him 2ce the experience against real HW opponents and THERE'S your Samuel Peter. George Foreman ducked Earnie Shavers, a very poor mans Sam Peter with a much weaker punch, half the strength and a glass jaw by comparison and far worse skills. What makes you think he'd be brave against Peter? Samuel Peter would be the biggest, strongest, most powerful and hardest chinned boxer either Foreman or Frazier had ever faced and with the most real 200+ HW experience of all of them. He would immediately knock Frazier straight out cold. He and Foreman might have a good fight tbh. I would definitely tip Peter to win. If the K-bros brought Peter in to lose, why is it then that in one of those fights, Wladimir was caught by big punches 3 times knocking him down? Could it be that Peter was a dangerous opponent and that the K-bros should be credited for beating such a dangerous one? According to you, Wladimir crumbles under pressure and his chin is susceptible to hard punches. So why would you discredit an opponent like Peter who applies constant pressure and has one of the hardest punches?

The Klitz brought Peters in like 4 times to loose. The set up was bought buy their fans because Peters was the perfect looking guy. A big chested black man who the Klitz fans were intimidated by!!! hahaha!!!! The guy was ordinary at best and another rube who stood in front and did nothing! Same senerio over and over another guy who doesn't try to win. Get paid be safe go home!! Foreman KO's Peters extremely quickly! Frazier doesn't get hit by him and Joe chops him down in 3 or 4 rounds! Who did peters ever beat? Ray.

What is it with Klitschko fans pretending Sam Peter was good? You realize he's the absolute last fighter you want to prop up as an example of the evolved, too big athlete, right? He got his ass whipped by obese super middleweight James Toney. James Toney was clearly NOT a super-middleweight when he fought PEter, and he himself is an example of how body fat is not always a detriment to boxing performance per se, it's HW boxing, not modelling. As long as you can perform well at that weight, then the weight is good! If I remember correctly, Peter was also out of shape for those fights wasn't he? Now Peter vs Toney was a match that pitted skill (Toney) against brawn (Peter). Nobody is denying Toney is a more skilled boxer than PEter. But Peter by far is the more dangerous opponent than Toney! More the point Toney did NOT beat Peter. Peter beat Toney TWICE! Samuel Peter is a "SUPER FRAZIER" OR a "SUPER SHAVERS", whom certain old timers get lots of credit for beating, but you don't want to credit WK for doing so against a ten times better version? Come on!