He had one loss....I don't think anyone considered him on the slide until manny destroyed him. Clottey was actually a respected fighter until he shelled up against Many and then disappeared until recently.
Mosley was shot...he had one good win in years over Margarito who had gotten caught moments before the fight cheating. Then he fought Floyd and manny after a 17 month layoff and at ages 39-40.
Roach did, he mentioned it many times leading up to the fight. In fact, he basically admitted that, that is why they wanted the fight.
In 2009, Cotto was not seen as a prime fighter. He was seen as being on the slide. He had just been beaten almost to death by Margarito, got a little cheap vacant title win against Jennings, and then was seemingly beaten by Clottey but luckily got the hometown decision. Mosley was ranked above Pacquiao and Cotto, at #1. Then after Pacquiao beat Cotto he became #1, Mosley went down to #2, Mayweather #3, and Cotto #4. At the time Pacquiao beat Cotto, Mosley was the best WW.
Don't get me wrong, Cotto wasn't seen as prime against Mayweather either.
He had one loss....I don't think anyone considered him on the slide until manny destroyed him. Clottey was actually a respected fighter until he shelled up against Many and then disappeared until recently.
Mosley was shot...he had one good win in years over Margarito who had gotten caught moments before the fight cheating. Then he fought Floyd and manny after a 17 month layoff and at ages 39-40.
If weight wasn't an issue why did Pac and Roach demand the catchweight?
How many fights did Manny have at WW before Cotto?
Pacquiao was simply too fast and mobile for Cotto. It's ok though, I still like Cotto.
Sure, if he weight drains him again, smh
A healthy Cotto destroys him.
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CLOTTEY TO PAC..... 146 TO 145......
the only weight drain is your thoughts.
in his recent fights cotto looks better physically. when pac moped the floor with him, he still looked relatively soft. how that would translate in a rematch is anyone's guess. i think manny probably beats him again though.
Cotto was in his prime in that first fight. Any weight 150 or under, Manny wrecks him again. He just couldn't deal with the speed and made the mistake of trading with Manny.
At like 155 or above who knows, I'd still take Manny probably.
In 2009, Cotto was not seen as a prime fighter. He was seen as being on the slide. He had just been beaten almost to death by Margarito, got a little cheap vacant title win against Jennings, and then was seemingly beaten by Clottey but luckily got the hometown decision. Mosley was ranked above Pacquiao and Cotto, at #1. Then after Pacquiao beat Cotto he became #1, Mosley went down to #2, Mayweather #3, and Cotto #4. At the time Pacquiao beat Cotto, Mosley was the best WW.
Don't get me wrong, Cotto wasn't seen as prime against Mayweather either.
Cotto was in his prime in that first fight. Any weight 150 or under, Manny wrecks him again. He just couldn't deal with the speed and made the mistake of trading with Manny.
At like 155 or above who knows, I'd still take Manny probably.
Pacquiao has fallen off pretty bad, Cotto is very confident right now unlike when he came off his "win" over Clottey. At 152-154lbs, it would be a very good fight. But I highly doubt Pacquiao let's Cotto come in at anything higher than 150lbs, and that would be a pretty drained Cotto considering he's been 154-155 since 2010 starting with Foreman. Excluding his Margarito rematch of course.
Another thing is the Roach factor and Cotto having to get yet another new trainer because Roach will not pick to train Cotto over Pacquiao.
I would say, at 152-154, Cotto may win or lose, I honestly don't know. But he won't get stopped. At 150 or lower, Cotto will be drained and weak, he may survive a 12 round UD loss.
First fight had lots of intangibles:
Cotto coming from the Margarito "wraps" fiasco, having trained himself and with his mitt holder as corner with no game plan along with the CW all combined with a MONSTER Pac (which IMO was the best Pac ever) all let to the beat down.
Now, I can see a completely different fight leaning 50/50 on a decision but I would not hesitate that Cotto could put Pac to sleep now.
this was cotto's third fight after margarito. was he still mentally drained? did it go away after pac beat him? is there now a pac fiasco? did that go away when trout beat him? a trout fiasco?
Pac by wide UD.
Cotto has regressed just as much, peaked at a lower caliber, and his recent losses were flat out losses (outboxed) while Pac's were a robbery and once in a lifetime KO punch.
First fight had lots of intangibles:
Cotto coming from the Margarito "wraps" fiasco, having trained himself and with his mitt holder as corner with no game plan along with the CW all combined with a MONSTER Pac (which IMO was the best Pac ever) all let to the beat down.
Now, I can see a completely different fight leaning 50/50 on a decision but I would not hesitate that Cotto could put Pac to sleep now.
If they were both to fight today, how do you see the fight going?
The outcome depends largely on the agreed upon weight.
In the first fight, I do believe the weight cut for Cotto had an impact but ultimately, he didn't fight smart and didn't respect Pac's abilities. Cotto tried to fight Pac who was twice as fast & twice as mobile, like these realities didn't exist, and Pac torched him for being stupid.