Stephen Espinoza- "Offered $40M minimum with 35% Upside. Bob Passed."

When did Espinoza offer this? He didn't even want to have Arum in a press conference call a few months back. It's hard to believe he actually offered Arum anything.

Obviously but I'm talking in relative terms here. How does making this extremely obvious point change anything? Except to be pedantic as usual. Nope, you are. Let's get back to the main point. He has shelled out PPV to other fighters. So yes, it happens.

Floydgimps -"Man, Eshpinoser twitted it man, that be tha truth right dere...told y'all manny was duckin":pat:

I agree with you. No sane person would turn this down. Also, no sane person would turn down $25 million over drug testing. No sane person would resign with Bob Arum after watching a fellow boxer with similar PPV numbers make 10 times the amount per fight you are making after leaving Bob Arum. I agree with you. Bob Arum is not sane and neither is Manny Pacquaio. doe, you don't throw drug testing roadblocks when you know you're the biggest roider in the sport. you don't offer the world's biggest star in boxing when you know you're a fraud ppv star and one of the most boring boxers in the sport. his maidana fights tanked, his guerrero fight tanked despite being packed with stars in his undercard and on mexican holidays. schaefer and espinoza couldn't even come up with numbers. they're even scared to come up with lies. his other ppv's are over exaggerated. there's a reason why he's still fighting. you'll discover all the fraudulent numbers when he retires. :bigeyes:

Funniest thing about this is the faux flowmo outrage all as the result of a TWEET! Gotta love floydgimps!:biggthump

I don't know if this is true or not but some of yall said showtime force floyd to fight canelo

I don't believe this. No sane person would turn down that deal. I agree with you. No sane person would turn this down. Also, no sane person would turn down $25 million over drug testing. No sane person would resign with Bob Arum after watching a fellow boxer with similar PPV numbers make 10 times the amount per fight you are making after leaving Bob Arum. I agree with you. Bob Arum is not sane and neither is Manny Pacquaio.

Well if he kept 100% of the revenue then everyone gets money on the front end...and there isn't that much money on the front end. I mean...the fighters aren't the only ones that get paid. Floyd just isn't smart enough to verbalize what he means to say. Obviously but I'm talking in relative terms here. How does making this extremely obvious point change anything? Except to be pedantic as usual.

I wonder what the Manny fans think is a good deal if this one isn't. Can one of y'all help me out? At a guess I would say one that was actually real and didnt involve joining TMT and getting bent over etc.:dunno:

Nobody can be stupid enough to not understand this. The revenue is what is left over AFTER expenses are paid. The expenses come off the top in any fight, including the 50 percent of the PPV that goes to the cable companies, the cost of paying the fighters and all other expenses. After all the expenses are paid, Floyd keeps everything else. That means that a promoter like Bob Arum does not get all the net revenue, keeps 80-90 percent for himself and doles out the rest to his fighters like Pacquaio. Revenue=Price x Quantity..... Revenue-Expenses=Profit

Most people also need to understand it is not REVENUE that is split, it is PROFIT. Its not like the fight does 150m in revenue and floyd keeps 100m, thats not how it works. The fight would do 150m in revenue, end of the day there is 20m in profit, that is split.

"How my deal is structured is that I keep 100% of the revenue" Nobody can be stupid enough to not understand this. The revenue is what is left over AFTER expenses are paid. The expenses come off the top in any fight, including the 50 percent of the PPV that goes to the cable companies, the cost of paying the fighters and all other expenses. After all the expenses are paid, Floyd keeps everything else. That means that a promoter like Bob Arum does not get all the net revenue, keeps 80-90 percent for himself and doles out the rest to his fighters like Pacquaio.

Left to Right: Michael Konz (Pacquaio advisor, on far left), Floyd Mayweather Jr, Joe Jackson (yes, father of the late legend Michael Jackson), and Donny Rucker. When was that picture taken?

Uh...what? How? Pacquiao would have got $40m in the deal he offered. Just none of the PPV. Well if he kept 100% of the revenue then everyone gets money on the front end...and there isn't that much money on the front end. I mean...the fighters aren't the only ones that get paid. Floyd just isn't smart enough to verbalize what he means to say.

Yeah I've heard him say that. He's just dumb as rocks. That means no one else gets paid. But that's not what he's trying to say. Further, it's not really relevant either. Opponents get PPV revenue. Uh...what? How? Pacquiao would have got $40m in the deal he offered. Just none of the PPV.

If this is true, which I believe it is, it makes Arum an ASTOUNDING LIAR! Just yesterday an article came out saying that Floyd is reluctant to fight Manny and it turns out it's Arum turning down another fair deal? :rofl::rofl:

I wonder what the Manny fans think is a good deal if this one isn't. Can one of y'all help me out?

"How my deal is structured is that I keep 100% of the revenue" Yeah I've heard him say that. He's just dumb as rocks. That means no one else gets paid. But that's not what he's trying to say. Further, it's not really relevant either. Opponents get PPV revenue.

No, that's great. Pac's last few ppvs have been **** numbers. Floyd's have been much better. Stop it. What where the numbers for floyd maidana 2???

"How my deal is structured is that I keep 100% of the revenue" Hmmm...last time I checked that was prior to signing with Showtime.