Just rewatched that fight, I really think that was an extremely underrated win for Floyd.
People forget that Corrales at the time was undefeated and steam rolling guys at 130,
Floyd made it look easy and absolutely outclassed him. I've never seen such a clinic at that weight.
Agreed. Floyd beats ANYONE below 147 -ever.
That being said. There are a few names out there that beat him below 147 within a historical sense if you know what I mean.
I understand what you are saying.
co-sign. This version pac will annihilate any version of floyd.
Yep, the best Pac beats the best Floyd.
And current Pac belts up current Floyd.
Pac > Floyd.
It's clear!
False. The Pacquiao that beat Cotto, beats Mayweather 10 out of 10 times and every fighter 147 and below in the history of the sport.
co-sign. This version pac will annihilate any version of floyd.
No way I see Floyd beating Duran. Duran is a complete fighter, power in both hands, great defence while coming forward, he would out work Mayweather, possibly stop him late. I see it going down like Castillo vs FLoyd, but Floyd would also get countered all night on the inside, possible even hit the canvas, or even somethig like Duran/SRL
You can't say Floyd would do this or that, simply because Duran fought in a level of competition miles completely above Floyds, it's laughable to say because he did this to guys like Corrales/Boldamir/Hatton/Mosley he would be succesfull. Might as well say Garry Russel Jr would beat ATG's from the way he was destroying TBA's. Talent is there, but we dont know how good the fighter actually is until he fights another great fighter.
Not to mention Duran's expertise in shifting. I can't think of any opponents with the killer instinct and the shifting skills Duran had. Not saying Floyd gets knocked out. Hell not giving the fight to Duran either but with out a doubt Duran would be the toughest opponent for Floyd at LW
I would call it stylistic fights. Put Floyd in with a Lara or even Rigo he'll look like rookie Canelo.
Rigo cant fight on the inside. He's one dimensional. Lara sucks. Both of those fighters can only do so much. Floyd can do it all.
I think your looking at it to say if Floyd were to walk them down they would run and make him chase. But thats only with big aggressive fighters like Canelo who got walked down.
I think those fighters would stand in the middle of the ring with Floyd. At least you didnt lie and say SRL, AND SRR could beat Floyd. I HATE it when people say that, its not true.
No fighter in history can beat the Floyd who faced Canelo, and JMM. Too slick against JMM. And against Nelo he was too aggressive and strong. Walked Nelio down easily.
I would call it stylistic fights. Put Floyd in with a Lara or even Rigo he'll look like rookie Canelo.
I'm with you, man.....
Great post here. You know your stuff. Manny is 143lbs right now, which indicates that he's not a welterweight, but that he's a lightweight. He can fight at higher weights because of his athleticism. He's a special fighter. Now, those who think Manny and Floyd are the same size, are idiots. This is the proof right here. I bet you Floyd couldn't make 140lbs for his next fight! He couldn't even make 144lbs for Roidquez. Well, he was just Marquez then. LoL.
Great post........
Great post........No way Floyd signs to fight any ATG. Smh. He won't even fight Manny. Why do we still have fantasy fights with Floyd, involved is beyond me. Duran would stop him. He would beat him into submission. Duran is the most violent fighter I've ever seen in the ring. If Floyd thought MM didn't give a ****. Oh boy! Duran would piss on his grave! What these so called fans don't understand is, Floyd is overrated. He fights these C-B Level guys and everyone thinks he's soooo great. The truth is, he has a couple of MAJOR flaws that would cost him against ATG fighters. Lack of punch output, vulnerability to the jab, he gives you his body. Floyd's defense is also overrated. He is a reflex fighter who moves his upper body laterally to avoid punches. He doesn't have the legs of a great boxer. He's also never been a "runner", either. Bottom line, he would lose to a lot of ATG fighters for the reasons mentioned above.
Floyd beats every fighter in history? in history? in history? in history? f*cking Christ he struggled with Castillo, Chavez, & Judah. You don't think there are better versions of those fighters that could beat Floyd?
Okay, then I'll go on and say that the Pacquiao that beat Diaz beats any fighter in history below 147.
The Judah that stopped Spinks beats any fighter in history below 147.
Pacman and Judah dont have a plus minus of 30 though do they? Floyd only has a handful of fights where he struggled. Then went on to fight guys bigger, faster, and stronger than the guys he struggled against and did them dirty.
Floyd has the top 3 plus minus in boxing history. Everytime I say that you ignore it. The only fighter in history that can beat Floyd is Pac and Pryor thats the reason he ducked Pac and thats the reason he likes Pryor so much. He dont even respect SRL.
Pacman will beat the shiat out of SRR. I dont know about every fighter in history but he will destroy all the fighters you claim are so great he wouldnt last a round. My whole problem is you all painting SRR and SRL as Godly. In their era they were great fighters but they dont automatically win every fantasy fight.
I fought Benitez who wasn't similar to Floyd but was slick and defensive and I suppose had a similar stance at times.
Duran lost that fight but he was past prime and a 154. Then again so was Benitez.
Nice! If true. Which Benitez?
Yeah, at some point he'd have to stand and fight and that would be extremely difficult. But man if he could get the jab working early and frustrate Duran and win the early rounds I'm thinking Taylor V Chavez type fight.
I'm drawing a blank right now, duran ever fight anyone who used the style/shell like Floyd?
He fought Benitez who wasn't similar to Floyd but was slick and defensive and I suppose had a similar stance at times.
Duran lost that fight but he was past prime and a 154. Then again so was Benitez.
Just rewatched that fight, I really think that was an extremely underrated win for Floyd.
People forget that Corrales at the time was undefeated and steam rolling guys at 130,
Floyd made it look easy and absolutely outclassed him. I've never seen such a clinic at that weight.
Agreed. Floyd beats ANYONE below 147 -ever.
That being said. There are a few names out there that beat him below 147 within a historical sense if you know what I mean.
From 122--130 Sandy Sadler KO's him!
From 130--135 Ike Williams KO's him!
From 135--140 Roberto Duran KO's him!
From 140--154 and beyond Sugar Ray Robinson brutally KO's him!
Beau Jack
Kid Gavalin
C. Basilio
H. Armstrong
J. Napoles
T. Hearns
R. Leonard
D. Curry.................all KO him!
M. Starling
O. DeLaHoya
P. Whitikar
V. Forrest
Tito Trinidad
C. Cokes
S. Mosley..........all are capable of beating him! There are more but its late!
nite kids play nice, fight dirty if you have to.
Ray.
good post,