roy jones greatness to moneys

Floyd vs froch or kovalev would be nice

No catch weights.. It would be like a poor mans roy jones vs ruiz. Roy started at 154 and moved all the way up to 205 to fight ruiz who was 230 at weigh in. thats 51 pounds in move up and was out weighed 25 pounds at weigh in.thats 76 pounds total. Floyd started at 130 and moved up to 154 .thats 24 pounds. if he moved up to 160 thats 30 pounds. Why hasnt floyd gone for his heavyweight title which in boxing is a top3 alltime division beside welter and heavy. its like him trying to take on anyone champ at 160 or froch at 168.imagine floyd vs froch at wembley?? Thoughts on roy accomplishment compared to what floy would have to do to be even close to such a great feat. Floyd doesn't care enough about greatness to risk it. He would rather secure the level that he has reached. Talent for talent? I think Roy was the more naturally gifted of the two, but I get the sense that Floyd had the advantage in education and perhaps discipline in the ring.

People trying to downplay Jones win at HW. At the time Ruiz was the only one that wanted to fight him. Since none of the other HW Champs wanted to fight him to unify he took the best money fight out there for him at the time. So a win - win situation for both fighters. When Roy beat Montell in the rematch he wanted to fight Holyfield but Holyfield didn't want the fight back then. Once Jones beat Ruiz there were other discussion to fight Holy again but it ain't happen and Holy ended up fighting Toney and got man handled. Jones was the first man to go from 154 to HW. It's in the history books yall can't take that away from him. Even if you feel the person that had the belt wasn't the real champ. He was real enough for the other champs not to want to unify. Rahman knocked Lewis out and Ruiz beat Rahman pretty easy. He is the only boxer in history to start his career as a junior middleweight, and go on to win a heavyweight title. He is also noted for holding the WBC, WBA, IBF, IBO, NABF, WBF, and IBA light heavyweight championships (Undisputed Light Heavyweight Champion); a record seven belts at the same time. Jones left his mark in history books when he captured the WBA heavyweight title, becoming the first former middleweight champion to win a Heavyweight title in 106 years. As one of the best pound for pound boxers of all time, Jones is also acknowledged as being one of the most physically gifted athletes in the history of the sport. Jones was named "Fighter of the Decade" for the 1990s by the Boxing Writers Association of America. I also want to chime that RJJ got a cologne out called Legend and some custom made Jewelry. http://jusdamour.com/legend-p-5.html http://jusdamour.com/images/banner1.jpg http://jusdamour.com/bmz_cache/f/f66bb0575765059701437e54e1c21d5b.image.300x300.jpg http://jusdamour.com/bmz_cache/b/bbc9998aa9a8da9762556d219e4164c9.image.300x300.jpg

Mccallum hill tarver griffin before roy ruined him Since when does floyd have to gontonthe phillipines to fight pac? Number guy calls the shots. Roy was waiting in vegas for DM. he never showed. He waited for joe calzaghe too. Never showed till way later like hopkins did. 60 40nand ill kick your arce.remember. Mccallum hill tarver and griffin were better then gatti canelo corrales castillo and corley. for ever taxi driver roy fought floyd has a mitchell baldomir ghost and ortiz. Floyd would never dare go to 168 and fight froch in wmbley and make at least 50 million. He wouldnt fight kovalev for any amount. Ruiz was a top ten heavy and beat solid fighters.

Are you guys serious??? Toney and Hopkins are ATG wins, literally ATG wins. Does floyd have any ATG on his resume?

Other than Hopkins, Toney, and Hill, what great names are on his resume? Blown-up Pazienza? Antoine Byrd? Julio Cesar Gonzalez? Clinton Woods? Crap argument. Remove two of the biggest names from a fighter's resume, then ask who did he beat. Priceless.

Why are people downplaying the Ruiz win? If he was so crappy, why were folks picking Roy to lose?

And people musta forgot that the reason RJJ got KO'd against Tarver was cuz he went from heavyweight back to 175 in 1 fight He was never the same after that If you compare his resume up to the Ruiz fight, it was as impressive a run as any other boxer in history Other than Hopkins, Toney, and Hill, what great names are on his resume? Blown-up Pazienza? Antoine Byrd? Julio Cesar Gonzalez? Clinton Woods?

Toney is better than oscar? Mosley? Even if u thunk it is, 2 out of 60 opponents is ridiculous Toney was more gifted than both of those guys. Not even close in my book.

And people musta forgot that the reason RJJ got KO'd against Tarver was cuz he went from heavyweight back to 175 in 1 fight He was never the same after that If you compare his resume up to the Ruiz fight, it was as impressive a run as any other boxer in history

Who ever thinks Floyd's legacy is better is an idiot, RJJ has wins against James "Lights out" Toney, and Hopkins. Theres no one in FLoyds resume than even comes close to this level of competition.

How when you factor in the weight. froch isnt numver 1 but has a belt like ruiz. we could say its kovalev if you really wanna talk weight. do the match. could floyd beat belt holders at 160 168 or 175.thats a fair assesment Kovalev froch or GGG.

Roy took risks in the ring and entertained throwing combos and a real variety of skills. Floyd throws single punches and performs the same moves every time round. Resume wise Floyd ducked too many fighters. Roy on the other didn't have as many good fighters around his weight at the time. Talent wise i'd say Roy>Floyd Both are talented fighters but you're comparing the Mayweather of today to the Jones of the past. It's better to compare the Mayweather of yesterday to the Jones of yesterday and you'll see they both put on a show. Floyd's talent is what carrying him today, as his physical attributes start to diminish. Roy got by because his physical abilities were much better than his opposition. Once they diminished, his talent alone couldn't carry him. Talent wise,Mayweather by far

Roy took risks in the ring and entertained throwing combos and a real variety of skills. Floyd throws single punches and performs the same moves every time round. Resume wise Floyd ducked too many fighters. Roy on the other didn't have as many good fighters around his weight at the time. Talent wise i'd say Roy>Floyd

Toney is better than oscar? Mosley? Even if u thunk it is, 2 out of 60 opponents is ridiculous Oscar & Shane were far past there primes, Toney was a beast!!!

Ruiz would be more like Floyd fighting Jermain Taylor or Peter Quillin when he had a belt RJJ completely skipped cruiser to fight Ruiz for the WBA belt Floyd would have to skip 160 and fight Ward at 168 for the WBA belt for it to be even Or if he wants the WBA at 160 its GGG

Ruiz was a top 10 heavyweight withba strap thats like floyd fighting GGG at 160 or froch at 168.both arent lineal. could floyd beat them like roy beat ruiz . Ruiz would be more like Floyd fighting Jermain Taylor or Peter Quillin when he had a belt

This is a fine post to start my own opinion with because this is 100 % true. Roy did fight two of the best with no caveats unlike Mayweather but the Ruiz fight is a big ole red herring because that was easy money. What Roy and btw Ward managed to do, was to outclass guys who were hitherto considered prime, at the top of their game. Mayweather by comparison even when he fought the best never outclassed a great fighter at his peak. Ebven if he won...it was close and by the time he got to De La Hoya and others....they were past it. Nobody came close to ever outclassing Hopkins, or Toney....not even since. You don't think Mayweather outclassed Corrales,Canelo, Guerrero? These guys were at their peak when Mayweather beat them. Not taking anything away from Jones but when you have guys like Tyson and Hopkins,rank Mayweather in their top five of all time greats, that alone says a lot. I've never heard anyone say that about Roy. Since Roy, Toney has gotten his ass beaten

You don't think Mayweather outclassed Corrales,Canelo, Guerrero? These guys were at their peak when Mayweather beat them. Not taking anything away from Jones but when you have guys like Tyson and Hopkins,rank Mayweather in their top five of all time greats, that alone says a lot. I've never heard anyone say that about Roy.

Ruiz was a top 10 heavyweight withba strap thats like floyd fighting GGG at 160 or froch at 168.both arent lineal. could floyd beat them like roy beat ruiz .