"He's youthful, he's fast, and he's strong. He's not a big puncher I don't think, but he's definitely a challenge." Freddie roach
2 days after he said this berto kos Hernandez in one round. Now we know PAC woulda beat him but a duck is a duck. Instead he fought Mosley after winning 2 rounds vs Floyd and a draw vs mora
http://www.boxingscene.com/pacquiao-vs-berto-roach-says-andre-real-challenge--33210
If you think the last few years were bad, wait till the creampuffs they try to rebuild Pac with this time :rofl:. He's gonna be fighting 130 lbers at 144.
fans trying so hard to defend this match makes you look worse. you wouldn't care what people said if this wasn't truly a s*** fight. but damn, yall get so defensive. no real mayweather fan would have preferred berto. theyre just accepting it because floyd is their guy and they support him. nothing wrong with that. but dont go around and act like you wouldn't s*** on Manny if he choose to fight Berto for his last match, after the fight of the century.
you clearly missed the point
nothing wrong with this thread. There's a reason why nobody's trying to refute my point. He ducked him to fight old man Mosley
So Floyd fought Berto?
You may have forgotten but people over here were complaining about Berto and his weak resume. If Manny fights Berto and would KO him, people would have brought that up as they did! Anyhow, Roach was saying that Berto was a candidate. Not sure what is your problem.
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But wouldn't Pacquiao vs Berto looked exactly like Pacquiao vs Mosely.
In hindsight yes. But at the time like roach said he was pretty much young hungry lion and just came off a 1 round ko. Mosley came off a loss and a draw
I remember is between Berto, who was hot at the moment, JMM, who is always fun, or Mosely who had just got steamrolled by Floyd and took a draw with Mora.
They choose Mosely and he no longer was the old man Arum claimed he was just months before
Floyd said going into the Mosley fight "My game plan will take into consideration that Mosley is now old (and rusty as nails)"
Funny that Floyd fought the 2 you just mentioned for Manny. The always fun Marquez who practically had to jump 3 divisions and old rusty as nails Mosley. No Berto!
you clearly missed the point
nothing wrong with this thread. There's a reason why nobody's trying to refute my point. He ducked him to fight old man Mosley
But wouldn't Pacquiao vs Berto looked exactly like Pacquiao vs Mosely.
Why would he duck a guy who lost to Ortiz and Robert Garcia ?you clearly missed the point
Hanz, I have to admit, There is something wrong with this thread. At least this thread is not worse than the Taylor beating Mayweather thread.
http://www.boxingscene.com/forums/showthread.php?t=656595nothing wrong with this thread. There's a reason why nobody's trying to refute my point. He ducked him to fight old man Mosley
Hanz, I have to admit, There is something wrong with this thread. At least this thread is not worse than the Taylor beating Mayweather thread.
http://www.boxingscene.com/forums/showthread.php?t=656595
"He's youthful, he's fast, and he's strong. He's not a big puncher I don't think, but he's definitely a challenge." Freddie roach
2 days after he said this berto kos Hernandez in one round. Now we know PAC woulda beat him but a duck is a duck. Instead he fought Mosley after winning 2 rounds vs Floyd and a draw vs mora
http://www.boxingscene.com/pacquiao-vs-berto-roach-says-andre-real-challenge--33210
Why would he duck a guy who lost to Ortiz and Robert Garcia ?
Arum was in an in-house shopping binge at that time. He wanted nothing to do with other promoters. The cold war was at an all time high.
It's funny that Roach is always the source of these ducking issues for Floyd fanboys when Roach was also the first to call out their hero Mayweather.
and what's ortiz highlight in his career? beating hype job berto? hahahahahaha
and berto getting a gift against collazo is the highlight of his sad hype job career hahahaha
maragrito has wins over: undefeated sergio martinez, joshua clottey (only had 1 loss), kermit cintronx2, he gave paul williams hell in their fight, etc. etc.
Who the hell was sergio martinez back then?? You didnt even know who he was then, and if you know what ppv was that an undercard fight on???
These Pacquiao haters pick the stupidest things to hate on Pacquiao for.
Might as well say he left the 135 division to avoid Juan Diaz.
You're a joke.how am I a hater.
clear troll bait thread, how is the op not banned? sorry hanz, but good troll tho
Lol not even trolling. People can't handle facts
Tragic. Fighters shouldn't duck fighters they would destroy.
I wonder why Pac ducked such an easy fight.
Most likely the speed and explosiveness berto brought to the table worried them a bit, i know that was a fight i wanted to see while berto and pac were champions at the same time....to me they were the consensus 2 and 3 in the division at that time..
No joke, Pac f*cked up badly, really, really badly, when he fought Mosley instead of Berto. If he fights Berto, Ortiz doesn't. Neither guy is an option for Mayweather for September. Mayweather was playing the vacation card at that time, and either would have had to keep playing the vacation card or sit down to make the Pac fight.
Pac gave him an out when he didn't fight Berto.
"He's youthful, he's fast, and he's strong. He's not a big puncher I don't think, but he's definitely a challenge." Freddie roach
2 days after he said this berto kos Hernandez in one round. Now we know PAC woulda beat him but a duck is a duck. Instead he fought Mosley after winning 2 rounds vs Floyd and a draw vs mora
http://www.boxingscene.com/pacquiao-vs-berto-roach-says-andre-real-challenge--33210
These Pacquiao haters pick the stupidest things to hate on Pacquiao for.
Might as well say he left the 135 division to avoid Juan Diaz.
You're a joke.
The promotion companies have more to do with fighters not meeting in the ring than people realize. Al Haymen can only do so much, but when you have Top Rank and GB fighters in the mix, odds are they are not going to meet in the ring.