ESPN's New P4P Rankings

If GGG is on the list, shouldn't Deontay Wilder be as well. He has 32 straight KO's.

:bottle::bottle: http://i60.tinypic.com/123p0cp.jpg http://i58.tinypic.com/10ynngg.jpg Brother, you're the one that needs a binky. I'm not the one still desperately coming up with excuses to mitigate the humiliation of my favorite fighter. After 3 years, no less. Move on already ferchrissake!

pac the cheat over his daddy jmm? glass houses, stones and so forth... :bottle::bottle: http://i60.tinypic.com/123p0cp.jpg http://i58.tinypic.com/10ynngg.jpg

If that's the case then why is Floyd #1? Unlike Wlad he does have quality opponents to push him but he doesn't fight them. And it's particulary his fault. Wlad is about to fight second best guy in his division. Floyd? He's most probably fighting Amir Khan next. That doesn't even make sense. Floyd beat top fighters in 2 divisions over the past 2 years. Vlad belongs on the list but there's really no argument for having anyone over Floyd right now, whether u like him or not.

1. Floyd Mayweather 2. Manny Pacquiao 3. Andre Ward 4. Juan Manuel Marquez 5. Timothy Bradley 6. Guillermo Rigondeaux 7. Gennady Golovkin 8. Wladimir Klitschko 9. Miguel Cotto 10. Roman Gonzalez http://espn.go.com/boxing/story/_/id/11743250/golovkin-shines-stays-put What a pos list. No Froch? Wow

marquez the cheat above bradley? smh pac the cheat over his daddy jmm? glass houses, stones and so forth...

1. Floyd Mayweather 2. Manny Pacquiao 3. Andre Ward 4. Juan Manuel Marquez 5. Timothy Bradley 6. Guillermo Rigondeaux 7. Gennady Golovkin 8. Wladimir Klitschko 9. Miguel Cotto 10. Roman Gonzalez http://espn.go.com/boxing/story/_/id/11743250/golovkin-shines-stays-put I'm not sure about the last two, but that looks better than what I've seen in the past.

Ward's so good that he can make the P4P list without even fighting.

Since when did charisma, humanitarian work factor in a boxer's ring ability? Wlad is dominant but he just doesn't have too many quality foes to push him. Not particularly his fault but quality wins should count over quantity. Here is another perspective on wlad outside the ring I don't know if it's true or not http://www.boxingscene.com/forums/showthread.php?t=649447

1. Floyd Mayweather 2. Manny Pacquiao 3. Andre Ward 4. Juan Manuel Marquez 5. Timothy Bradley 6. Guillermo Rigondeaux 7. Gennady Golovkin 8. Wladimir Klitschko 9. Miguel Cotto 10. Roman Gonzalez http://espn.go.com/boxing/story/_/id/11743250/golovkin-shines-stays-put Andre Ward :thinking:

Since when did charisma, humanitarian work factor in a boxer's ring ability? Wlad is dominant but he just doesn't have too many quality foes to push him. Not particularly his fault but quality wins should count over quantity. If that's the case then why is Floyd #1? Unlike Wlad he does have quality opponents to push him but he doesn't fight them. And it's particulary his fault. Wlad is about to fight second best guy in his division. Floyd? He's most probably fighting Amir Khan next.

Awful list. Wlad should be higher; Andre Ward should be unranked; Bradley and Marquez are too high; Golovkin and Cotto shouldn't be on the list.

My PERSONAL P4P Rankings: 1. Floyd/GGG; 2. GGG/Floyd; 3. Ward/Rigo; 4. Rigo/Ward; 5. ... 6. ... 7. ... 8. ... 9. ... 10. ... 5-10? can't say. hard to say, hard to determine.

1. Floyd Mayweather 2. Manny Pacquiao 3. Andre Ward 4. Juan Manuel Marquez 5. Timothy Bradley 6. Guillermo Rigondeaux 7. Gennady Golovkin 8. Wladimir Klitschko 9. Miguel Cotto 10. Roman Gonzalez http://espn.go.com/boxing/story/_/id/11743250/golovkin-shines-stays-put What a crappy list. Ward shouldn't even be on there or a lot closer to 10 than 1. Golovkin doesn't even deserve to be on there yet and neither does Cotto.

only a retarded person or someone suffering from down syndrome would put wlad in #1. Two things... First isn't someone suffering from down syndrome retarded? Two, Vlad would beat everyone else in the P4P he should be number one, it only makes sense.

Since its time for bad lists, here's mine FMJ Rigo Manny Wlad Gonzalez Bottom (not really in order) JMM Bradley Estrada Froch Canelo Mikey G. Kovalev GGG Walters Crawford I see GGG and Rigo going up as they get good opponents and FMJ, Pac etc eventually retire. Walters, Mikey, Gonzalez are gonna be pretty dominant too.

how is wlad not #1 p4p? he is the MOST DOMINANT boxer right now and has been dominant for so long now. he is the clear top dog at heavyweight. he has power and the boxing IQ to give anyone problems. he is also a great person charismatic, humanitarian and the perfect representative for the sport of boxing. my top 5: 1. wlad 2. froch 3. pac 4. gonzalez 5. rigo Since when did charisma, humanitarian work factor in a boxer's ring ability? Wlad is dominant but he just doesn't have too many quality foes to push him. Not particularly his fault but quality wins should count over quantity.

Very true,, he is very unproven still, but it takes a special fighter to mow down the guys he has, so many times in a row... And I base my list for on who would be the betting favorite, with resume being secondary That's why I still have ward so high.. He would be the favorite over nearly anyone at the moment.. I feel ggg would be the favorite over guys like Bradley, roman, Marquez, etc... But I can totally see how others wouldn't view it the same yea,,,,I can understand that. I also have high hopes for ggg. hes a beast for sure and has tremendous promise

see my sig, the most credible P4P list. Disagree, way too many brothas...

not a terrible list but I disagree with ggg. he has tremendous promise but hes still untested Very true,, he is very unproven still, but it takes a special fighter to mow down the guys he has, so many times in a row... And I base my list for on who would be the betting favorite, with resume being secondary That's why I still have ward so high.. He would be the favorite over nearly anyone at the moment.. I feel ggg would be the favorite over guys like Bradley, roman, Marquez, etc... But I can totally see how others wouldn't view it the same