The problem is that Canelo is not a pressure fighter nor does he fight aggressive for a sustained period of time. Only time I've seen that in recent years is against a way smaller foe (Lopez) and against a shot Angulo. I just don't think Canelo has anything for Cotto who is the better fighter and the better boxer, he should win comfortably.
Can't disagree on most. Canelo fights in spots and that's seemed to be a fault of his.
I think Cotto has had the opportunity to show his talent more than Canelo so it remains to be seen if Cotto is better (I believe he's shown that he is but Canelo is also more skilled than given credit for). The thing about Cotto is that he doesn't have the greatest of chins and has cowered vs a determined fighter. Cotto can be out manned, and that's going to be the interesting part of the fight or at least the selling point. We'll see if Canelo imposes himself in the latter part of the fight.
I'm curious though... Will Roach want Cotto to seek and destroy or box smart...clinch up close and use his legs. Canelo is an interesting match up because neither really SEEMS like a bad option but you could envision things going south.
I think Canelo will surprise us with his ability to match Cotto's jab and body work and Cotto will remind us of his boxing ability and underrated speed.
I dunno.. Probably Cotto since he's likely going to expend a lot more energy keeping Canelo off him. Canelo is a big solid kid and I'm not sure Canelo has a huge stamina issue lately. He's seemed fine (at leas vs Lara he kept coming all night). We'll see. It should be a brutal fight with vicious body work on both sides. If Canelo fights agressive I'm not sure how long Cotto's stamina will hold for or his face vs a bigger, younger and stronger fighter . I'd go with youth in this one in terms of stamina.
We'll see how their talent matches up vs each other though
The problem is that Canelo is not a pressure fighter nor does he fight aggressive for a sustained period of time. Only time I've seen that in recent years is against a way smaller foe (Lopez) and against a shot Angulo. I just don't think Canelo has anything for Cotto who is the better fighter and the better boxer, he should win comfortably.
Fortunately for Cotto, Canelo's stamina is no better. :lol1:
He just recently spent 12 rounds chasing Lara around the ring and didn't gas. He'll be alright.
I dunno.. Probably Cotto since he's likely going to expend a lot more energy keeping Canelo off him. Canelo is a big solid kid and I'm not sure Canelo has a huge stamina issue lately. He's seemed fine (at leas vs Lara he kept coming all night). We'll see. It should be a brutal fight with vicious body work on both sides. If Canelo fights agressive I'm not sure how long Cotto's stamina will hold for or his face vs a bigger, younger and stronger fighter . I'd go with youth in this one in terms of stamina.
We'll see how their talent matches up vs each other though
you guys are smoking that crack
he faded in Margs 1
he faded in the Floyd fight
faded in the Austin Trout fight
and HERE IS THE CHERRY ON TOP HE FADED IN HIS 2ND FIGTH WITH ONE EYE Margs and Margs didn't even hit him as much as he did in the first fight.
iam going to bump this thread up as soon as he piss poor stamina starts to fail him in his fight with Canelo. Cotto better get a ko early
Fortunately for Cotto, Canelo's stamina is no better. :lol1:
you guys are smoking that crack
he faded in Margs 1
he faded in the Floyd fight
faded in the Austin Trout fight
and HERE IS THE CHERRY ON TOP HE FADED IN HIS 2ND FIGTH WITH ONE EYE Margs and Margs didn't even hit him as much as he did in the first fight.
iam going to bump this thread up as soon as he piss poor stamina starts to fail him in his fight with Canelo. Cotto better get a ko early
I think Canelo will win by KO before stamina becomes a problem for either man. Canelo's better chin, superior punching power, size, strength and fast accurate combinations will win this fight for him within 7 rounds in my opinion.
I agree - I don't think Cotto has poor stamina. Over the course of a hard fight, he tends to slow due to the brutal fights he's been in. The pace that Manny and Margs fights in, would slow anyone down.
If I ever saw Cotto seemingly out of shape was the Trout fight. He just looked lethargic
As for Canelo - I think his stamina problems are the result of experience, not knowing how to properly train and stuff for the long grind
Cotto was in shape for the Trout fight. I was at The Garden and he looked good physically. But the stamina was still an issue. And I think he did his training at Big Bear for that fight. I think Big Bear only makes things worse and not better. I don't think it's effective.
I voted Cotto will tier first because Canelo is younger and bigger. I don't think either man has stamina that is that bad. I don't remember Canelo's lack of stamina causing him to lose most of the late rounds in any particular fight. He usually finishes strong enough to win the 12th round. Canelo lost to Mayweather and had close fights with Lara and Trout. The other 40 plus fights Canelo had have all been one sided Canelo victories with Canelo dominating from start to finish and usually winning by KO. Both Canelo and Cotto have thrown over 700 punches in some fights so I think their stamina, while not their strong suit is better than piss poor.
Neither guy is elite in that department but their stamina is good enough were it won't affect the fight. Their stamina issues are vastly exaggerated.
Exactly,, I think this fight comes down to if canelo can get past cotto's boxing skills and impose his will with youth, size, and power.. If canelo can deal with cotto's jab and body shots is the real question of this fight, not who will gas first..
Never said he had elite stamina,,, where did I say that?
YOU STARTED A THREAD THAT SAID HE HAD "PISS POOR STAMINA"
That is not the case,, quit changing my words around and own up to the ones you typed.. It's obvious that cotto's stamina isn't piss poor
Neither guy is elite in that department but their stamina is good enough were it won't affect the fight. Their stamina issues are vastly exaggerated.
I agree - I don't think Cotto has poor stamina. Over the course of a hard fight, he tends to slow due to the brutal fights he's been in. The pace that Manny and Margs fights in, would slow anyone down.
If I ever saw Cotto seemingly out of shape was the Trout fight. He just looked lethargic
As for Canelo - I think his stamina problems are the result of experience, not knowing how to properly train and stuff for the long grind
Exactly how I see it
I agree - I don't think Cotto has poor stamina. Over the course of a hard fight, he tends to slow due to the brutal fights he's been in. The pace that Manny and Margs fights in, would slow anyone down.
If I ever saw Cotto seemingly out of shape was the Trout fight. He just looked lethargic
As for Canelo - I think his stamina problems are the result of experience, not knowing how to properly train and stuff for the long grind
stop smoking crack you are delusion if you think Cotto has elite stamina
Never said he had elite stamina,,, where did I say that?
YOU STARTED A THREAD THAT SAID HE HAD "PISS POOR STAMINA"
That is not the case,, quit changing my words around and own up to the ones you typed.. It's obvious that cotto's stamina isn't piss poor
Lmao
Gassing is what Maidana did in the first fight with Floyd...
Name a fight where canelo, cotto, or oscar gassed out after dominating and got stopped...
Cuz oscar really gassed hard vs Ike, and Vargas.. Lmao
Like I said,,, huge difference between gassing due to not being in shape, and slowing because your taking punishment
stop smoking crack you are delusion if you think Cotto has elite stamina
both are 8 round fighters. It will be very interesting who takes control in the championship rounds.
That sounds about right 8 rounds would like to see how both look around the 10 round
disagree he is in the same category as Canelo ,Oscar just to name a few fighters who have piss poor stamina. ALL the ATG greats had great stamina I cant think of one who does not right now
Lmao
Gassing is what Maidana did in the first fight with Floyd...
Name a fight where canelo, cotto, or oscar gassed out after dominating and got stopped...
Cuz oscar really gassed hard vs Ike, and Vargas.. Lmao
Like I said,,, huge difference between gassing due to not being in shape, and slowing because your taking punishment
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