Is Oscar thinking straight? This May 5th thing makes no sense

Canelo is Oscar's big fish who will allow Oscar's company to survive and Canelo wants those dates so Oscar has to at least try to keep his man happy. He has little control over Floyd but that is still a big fight so it is something they want to do also. Oscar knows it is not going to go like that and he is probably hoping that getting Cotto will be enough for Canelo this time. Next time who knows Canelo seems pretty adamant about this stuff and it is Oscar's job to keep him happy. Oscar is probably also secretly hoping that Cotto demands the fight be in June in New York, so he can negotiate off that date as part of that deal to get out of that needless conflict. This ^^^ is a well-reasoned post, and I totally agree with it. P34c3 ...

Larry, your assuming that Showtime would be stupid enough to guarantee Floyd 30 million plus to fight Khan going up against the biggest Mexican draw on their holiday. Canelo/Cotto doesn't need to do a huge number to make money while any Floyd fight has to break a million just to get Showtime back to even. You really think Showtime is going to throw their boxing budget away to do worse numbers than Floyd's last two fights?

Canelo vs Cotto on May 5th would make history numbers. Mexicans and Puerto Ricans are boxing largest fan base and rivalry.

canelo's a long term investment. cutting into his #'s for the two more times floyd fights will pay dividends in the long run. It may force floyd to fight pac because who is he gonna fight that's bigger than cotto/canelo? if mayweather vs khan and cotto vs canelo were on the same day, who you buying?

oscar will be promoting canelo-cotto and collecting a check from floyd-khan...

He wants to make Canelo-Cotto on that date on HBO...Then Mayweather-Khan on the same date on Showtime?? and he wants to promote/co promote both?? isn't that cutting his money?? how is this a great idea? It makes sense. He keeps Khan happy with the Floyd fight. Floyd on the other hand suffers the PPV deal on the US. The Khan vs Floyd fight would be very marketable in the UK. They fight at an earlier time zone.

It only makes sense if they (hbo, GBP, canelo) want to really mess with floyd and showtime and have canelo-cotto up against floyd-not manny.. with floyd-manny, nothing can compete with it,, but if its canelo-cotto and say floyd-khan/thurman,, then i think no doubt that canelo-cotto can be a major thorn in the side of floyd.. canelo is gonna bring the mexican fanbase cotto brings the ricans the style matchup will bring the other hardcore fans.. floyd will have the urban market some of the casuals, but they are getting bored with floyd in a hurry since he isnt exciting in the ring.. I dont think casuals will flock to canelo-cotto, but they also wont flock to floyd-khan, thurman, brook... If they both did h2h, i think they both do around 600k, which would be a success for canelo and cotto, but a disaster for floyd and showtime.... One of the best post I have seen all day!!!!!!!! 100% agree with everything you said . This would be a disaster for Floyd andthat alone makes it worth it for canelo/DeLaHoya. Which is why I think they will insist on pushing for the May date if they can get Coto.

If GBP puts on Canelo vs Cotto in May, they get that date. And GBP is a promoter, not Hayman. And Schafer is bound by contract to GBP till 2016 and it is best for Schafer to not stir up anything before then unless somehow the legal battle frees him up. But Oscar's lawyers will see to it that for the time being, Schafer is frozen from making any promotional moves in Boxing. And any promotion on Mayweather's side is not going to come from any promoters with experience. You don't just get your promoters license and expect to win against GBP anymore than a doctor just out of med school is allowed to operate on some huge Hollywood star. That seals the May date for GBP most likely. The only possible way to change that is if Floyd and Pac negotiate a fight and then that creates a new dilemma - if GPB wants the May date and TR and Mayweather want the May date, Oscar and Arum's bromance might come to a halt sooner than expected. Twists and turns everywhere and alliances will form and fail. And even though Mayweather has stated that he wont work with Arum, he might actually do that as a counter move in a huge power struggle to overpower GBP and there is no way in hell ANY fight competes on ANY day with a Floyd vs Pac fight, lack of promotional experience or not. Floyd may want to UP Oscar more than he would like to UP Arum and side with Arum just to get the Pac fight and win the business battle. But if Floyd wants the May date against anyone but Pac and GBP wants it for Canelo vs Cotto, Floyd can take a hike, aint happening for him on that date. But I would not be surprised if Mayweather has met with Arum and had some private conversations. Team Mayweather would seriously shift the balance of power to one side if he chose to work with either Oscar - or especially Arum. From any promotional side, the best way to gain the most power in Boxing is for two entities to unite. Anything less leaves 3 promotional teams in constant competition with each other. All of this is pure speculation but there are a lot of possibilities that can come out that could change the face of boxing business. It will be interesting to see what happens in the Post-Pac and Post-Maweather era and what entities are in power and how much power. Boxing is going to have some spasms and growing pains, maybe some dying pains in some promotional areas.

He just thinks that he can get by with his fake golden boy image and put a spin on it and people will slurp it up with out asking questions he's done this his entire career but if you sit back and look at It's all lies. He approved every mismatch on SHO but claims he want the best vs best , Is Clottey the best available option? Its decent at best. I give more credit to B-hop getting the Kovalev fight done then Oscar hes probably alienated the rest of his stable , he *****.ted on Chinos effort when he put up a 100x better showing then his man crush Canelo who pretty much got shut out and embarrassed. The guys not even comfortable in his own skin and his whole image and persona is phoney. I got more respect for Frank (Kellie) Malhoney then Oscar

Unless a more appealing opponent comes up, that's exactly what I think he'll do. Fighting once a year is nothing new to him. I guess we will see. Fighting earlier than May might make some sense to him to even up the time off between his final two fights, he will have 8 months off until May but only like 4 to September. I do think one way or another he give up one of the dates, if he only fights once or a different date who knows. That might all depend on how those negotiations go, I could see Floyd being pretty vindictive if they go poorly.

Canelo is his fighter , Floyd and Khan are Haymon guys , he just want to put a black eye on Floyd and Haymon Khan is also signed to Goldenboy..

Either he knows something we don't know/behind the scenes business splits, or he knows it's a game of chicken and one fight will have its date moved. They wouldn't put them on at the same time.

Floyd has 2 fights left and will be 38 in A FEW MONTHS..I DOUBT HE WILL FIGHT ONCE NEXT YEAR Unless a more appealing opponent comes up, that's exactly what I think he'll do. Fighting once a year is nothing new to him. I guess we will see.

Canelo is his fighter , Floyd and Khan are Haymon guys , he just want to put a black eye on Floyd and Haymon

I'm not sure how this will play out and who will be fighting in May. I suspect Floyd will wait until September. But there is ZERO chance of the two of them fighting on PPV the same day. Even if the promoters are stupid enough to try that, the PPV providers won't go along with it for a second. I guarantee that this will never happen. Floyd has 2 fights left and will be 38 in A FEW MONTHS..I DOUBT HE WILL FIGHT ONCE NEXT YEAR

Personally I would be inclined to avoid a game of chicken with Al Haymon.

It only makes sense if they (hbo, GBP, canelo) want to really mess with floyd and showtime and have canelo-cotto up against floyd-not manny.. with floyd-manny, nothing can compete with it,, but if its canelo-cotto and say floyd-khan/thurman,, then i think no doubt that canelo-cotto can be a major thorn in the side of floyd.. canelo is gonna bring the mexican fanbase cotto brings the ricans the style matchup will bring the other hardcore fans.. floyd will have the urban market some of the casuals, but they are getting bored with floyd in a hurry since he isnt exciting in the ring.. I dont think casuals will flock to canelo-cotto, but they also wont flock to floyd-khan, thurman, brook... If they both did h2h, i think they both do around 600k, which would be a success for canelo and cotto, but a disaster for floyd and showtime....

Unless Floyd is fighting someone people would rather watch instead of Cotto vs Canelo, then Floyd should fall back. And I don't wanna hear ya Floyd fans start saying that Khan is a great and credible opponent cuz ya be sh1tting all over him. ... and Khan can't fight in September -- it has to be in May for Khan...

Unless Floyd is fighting someone people would rather watch instead of Cotto vs Canelo, then Floyd should fall back. And I don't wanna hear ya Floyd fans start saying that Khan is a great and credible opponent cuz ya be sh1tting all over him.

Obviously he won't promote both fights at the same time. If he gets the Cotto/Canelo fight in May, that is the fight he'll promote. He also knows he isn't going to be promoting Mayweathers next fight. Haymon and Schaffer will. And I believe that Khan is a Haymon fighter. ... like he was really promoting Floyd's last fight either... :)