When Fighters just don't have it anymore.

when floyd chooses to fight someone, you know that fighter doesn't have it anymore or never had it. system never fails. Dude this is a good thread . Lets not start with this whole ***** ******* B.S .

Sergio Martinez - Miguel Cotto. Sergio needs to quit. Tyson - Holyfield II. Mike didn't have it anymore.

Watching Jermain Taylor against Abraham was difficult for me. Watching what happened against Pavlik was bad, then he got knocked around late by Carl, but watching him against Abraham and just waiting for him to be knocked out was difficult...the way he dropped was genuinely worrying.

Ali Holmes was the worst emotions for me , a very sad day .

Ricky Hattons against Senchenko was cringe worthy as well.Being a huge Hatton fan seeing Ricky like that was shocking to say the least. Sloppy footwork and even his power wasn't there. Man, that is probably my first and last "emotional" night in boxing. Ricky was a guy I'd met a few times, I'd even watched him fight live a fair few times and when he lost to Floyd and Manny it was fair enough. And then he had to come back and I saw he was in shape and I half believed he could do it again. if even 60% of the old Ricky existed, he owuld have taken Senchenko apart but it wasn't to be and it broke a million hearts. That body shot could be felt around the Great British Isles. Senchenko ended Hatton's career and a thousand dreams of a fairy tale.

when floyd chooses to fight someone, you know that fighter doesn't have it anymore or never had it. system never fails. like cotto and canelo right?

Hatton vs Senchenko. Not to make excuses for Hatton's loss, and I know at that point for Hatton it was quite clear that he was past prime and there where widespread expectations that he would not quite be the same after the Pacquiao massacre and his 2.5 year spiral downhill in his retirement...But watching that fight it is really obvious the man was finished as far as boxing was concerned. REALLY obvious.

Roy Jones-Joe Calzaghe Felix Trinidad-Pernell Whitaker Terry Norris-Keith Mullings Julian Jackson-Verno Phillips William Joppy-Roberto Duran Ray Leonard-Hector Camacho

Meldrick Taylor the way he kept fighting is criminal act made by all promoters allowing to fight on their shows.

But at least he wasn't taking a beating and he was up against the #3 P4P in his prime. Now if that was against somebody like Rios, it'd be a different story. Good point,maybe we'll be able to tell better after the Algieri fight.Which is no forgone conclusion imo.In that fight against Bradley he was throwing punches off balance and even when he was trying to set them up,he was again off balance. When he had Bradley against the ropes when Pacquiao threw the huge punch combo,can't remember the rounds or how many punches it was it wasn't the Pac of old,they were most arm punches,nothing to them.

when floyd chooses to fight someone, you know that fighter doesn't have it anymore or never had it. system never fails.

I'm gonna get shot for this one but i was kind of shocked at Mannys performance against Bradley in the rematch.The way he was lunging in and leaving himself open didn't bode well with me. I'm a fan of his but i say it the way i see it.And i didn't like it. But at least he wasn't taking a beating and he was up against the #3 P4P in his prime. Now if that was against somebody like Rios, it'd be a different story.

Ricky Hattons against Senchenko was cringe worthy as well.Being a huge Hatton fan seeing Ricky like that was shocking to say the least. Sloppy footwork and even his power wasn't there.

I'm gonna get shot for this one but i was kind of shocked at Mannys performance against Bradley in the rematch.The way he was lunging in and leaving himself open didn't bode well with me. I'm a fan of his but i say it the way i see it.And i didn't like it.

Lucian Bute also comes to mind...he looked terrible against Froch & looked like he didn;t wanna fight at all against Pascal.

Angulo is another fighter that is done imo. Hell yeah! You can't even call him a gate keeper now...

Angulo is another fighter that is done imo.

Co-sign...Mofo has been badly managed. He needs the Al Haymon rehab system, face nobodies & gradually build yourself up. Just like Berto/Broner.

Tavoris Cloud looks like he shouldn't get in the ring at all now.. Co-sign...Mofo has been badly managed.

Thing with Ortiz is I never felt his skills werent there. Mentally he wasnt there lol I agree, mentally he was NEVER there..