Anyway it 's really senseless on this site to make fantasy fight including Pacquiao. Pac has the most and the most rabid fans here by landmiles. Even if you would ask them that "who would won Klitschko or Pacquiao? Both in their natural weights, so not P4P wise" you would still get a plenty of fanboys who claim Pac to win.
I alredy see Check Hook's (or someone smilar) comment in the thread: "Pacquiao's workrate would be too much for Wladimir. Wlad couldn't hug him because he couldn't find Pac in the ring. Pac is too fast and has too high workrate for Klitschko. Klitschko couldn't KO him, he isn't the type of toe-to-toe counter puncher like JMM, he would try to keep Pacquiao outside but Pac is too fast, he would jump in and out and since Wladimir's chin is from glass, even Saunders and Brewster KO'd him, probably Pac would KO him too in the mid rounds." :D
This is a joke right?
Ward is the most overrated boxer on here and doesn't have a single HOFer on his resume
Pacquiao hattons him
This is why you can't be taken seriously. Ward is overrated? By who? You'd be hard pressed to find people on here that give Ward the credit he deserves.
And he gets hatton'd? Who on Pacquiao's resume has he hatton'd...besides Ricky Hatton?? Ward has p4p defensive skills and is tough on the inside. Pacquiao's inside game is not very good. I think Ward roughs Pacquiao up, doesn't give him room to work and takes the UD.
I just seen your age , no problems kid , seems you got an obsession with cum are you a shirt lifter ?
Its obvious that boxing is not your forte you would be better off specializing in some gay forums where you can discuss styles your more familiar with .
Just seen my age?? what a lame response. i never hide it, wanna see my picture? i already posted it, wanna know where i live? already posted it.
Sexual preference is not the issue, many poster here already knew what a demented pervert i am. so it does with you, i get it you got a boner when you detect floyd presence physically or virtually, but do you have to gargling floyd imaginary cum everytime you post here??
Floyd is just a boxer, boxing is just a sport and PPV is only an entertaiment. i'm so glad i'm not obsess with it.
the great reloaded accusing someone for ruining a thread :lol1:. you do realize your bickering with F@ggie pac fans ruin many great discussions in NSB. :hihi:
Doesn't matter the thread, your post always reek of floyd cum.
And the sound of your insult truly is music to my ears. It fills me with a warm assurance there will be plenty of ignorant buffoons around to entertain me in this forum.
I just seen your age , no problems kid , seems you got an obsession with cum are you a shirt lifter ?
Its obvious that boxing is not your forte you would be better off specializing in some gay forums where you can discuss styles your more familiar with .
Good bet you would be a internet hero real life coward .
You also need to learn how to read , I said they went nip and tuck , that does not mean easy time , it means life and death .
My post never mentioned Floyd and you talk like it was about Floyd , I think your an illiterate dipsht .
Dead shts like you ruin any serious thread on this forum , Id love to meet a goose like you in real life just to split my sides laughing .
the great reloaded accusing someone for ruining a thread :lol1:. you do realize your bickering with F@ggie pac fans ruin many great discussions in NSB. :hihi:
Doesn't matter the thread, your post always reek of floyd cum.
And the sound of your insult truly is music to my ears. It fills me with a warm assurance there will be plenty of ignorant buffoons around to entertain me in this forum.
Wrong forum for that kinda talk buddy , in here with these morons your post is like talking Swahili to a Chinamen , this not a boxing smart forum .I mean it's not rocket science, if you follow this sport and aren't a stupid fanboy and actually know the sport anybody could see what I'm saying. You're right about the people in these forums though l0l.
Current versions: Easy Ward UD.
Prime versions: 55-45 for Ward or something like that. I don't think that Manny would have the same workrate as against Cotto, Mosley, ODLH, etc... Ward is the best in take away his opponenets weapons. He would also frustrate the hell out of Pacquaio and make him quiet gunshy (compare to his normal self). So I give the nod to Ward. Too smart, too technical and too well rounded (good from every range) + his power (although he hasn't got a lots of KO-s) was enough to make the likes of Kessler and Froch to respect him (those head slapping jabs...) If Froch, who is one of the toughest guys in the sport with at least as good chin as Pac's couldnt just walk through him neither would Pacquaio.
and answering the question. i think pacquiao would be too much for ward to handle. He wont knockout pacquiao, so he has to win on points. the only ones who beat him on points, barely, returned fire with fire and took a whole lot of punishment to win.
you can frustrate pacquiao by using footwork and try to potshot him, because he knows **** about cutting the ring off, but you cant really win rounds against him that way. the only thing you are doing is making him look bad while losing. (mosley, bradley I)
Another factor that you have to consider is, that even though ward has a pretty good resume, he still didnt face someone who resembles pacquiao in any way or even someone who is significantly faster then him.
Ward has a similar style to hopkins and hopkins stylistic nightmare are boxers who are too fast (roy jones, taylor) or are fast and throw punches in bunches (calzaghe)
Someone said wards infight game would be a problem for pacquaio, but i dont think so. pacquiaos feet are way too fast to catch him for a prolonged fight on the inside. in his prime he darted in and out of the distance all the time and it was difficult to follow him at all.
Ward beats pacquiao easier than floyd does, that being said ward doesn't beat floyd.
Wrong forum for that kinda talk buddy , in here with these morons your post is like talking Swahili to a Chinamen , this not a boxing smart forum .
you're the only Fl0mos from the war era (2008-2010) who still had Floyd Oily d1ck deep in the azz, i gotta give credit to you for still being floyd cum dumpster all this years, even after barrage of menstrual blood from F@ggy pac fans you still doesn't stop Slurping Floyd excrements.
and stop posting stupid sheet, you post like Marquez has an easy time with Pac. do you think 5 KD, multiple broken noses, bloody and bruises face is happy hour??
Good bet you would be a internet hero real life coward .
You also need to learn how to read , I said they went nip and tuck , that does not mean easy time , it means life and death .
My post never mentioned Floyd and you talk like it was about Floyd , I think your an illiterate dipsht .
Dead shts like you ruin any serious thread on this forum , Id love to meet a goose like you in real life just to split my sides laughing .
Hes still 6 inches bigger, with much longer reach and smarter technical fighter. You dont get that same weight doesnt mean they're the same height?
we are comparing them p4p. you have to
substract or add height if you want the imagined
fight to take place at welterweight or supermiddleweight.
andre ward is 6'0. i think 6'0 is the average height for
a super middleweight. if we imagine this fight taking place
at welterweight you have to know the average height
of a welterweight.
and thats andre wards height, the same logic applies
to his reach, punching power, speed, etc.
pretty easy concept or not?
You mean the way Marquez worked out Manny after 40 rounds of nip and tuck , and JMM is not the counter boxer Ward is , some of you people dont see past your nose .
Leave out Hatton Cotto Oscar and Margo , all had issues going into Manny from being shot to being drained .
Now whats left that would make anybody think Manny could touch Ward , nothing !
you're the only Fl0mos from the war era (2008-2010) who still had Floyd Oily d1ck deep in the azz, i gotta give credit to you for still being floyd cum dumpster all this years, even after barrage of menstrual blood from F@ggy pac fans you still doesn't stop Slurping Floyd excrements.
and stop posting stupid sheet, you post like Marquez has an easy time with Pac. do you think 5 KD, multiple broken noses, bloody and bruises face is happy hour??
Theres a difference. perfectly healthy to be a 6'0 147 pounder, not the same as being 6'6. Thats why this was simple. If the question is, 6'0 147 Andre Ward vs 5'6 147 Pac, Ward wins. This situation isnt using P4P creitra which takes weight AND height into consideration . He simply said weight. Its reading comprehension, guys.
So send David Haye, hes shorter and should be fine at welter p4p and behead Floyd. Thanks for acknowledging Rigos weakness p4p. You think hes better than mike Jones? Mike is a 6ft welter, Rigo would have trouble reaching him at 5'4 with his tiny reach. No chance vs 6'3 Willie Nelson, p4p. Smh
Dude for someone that so badly misunderstands the meaning of p4p you're awful loud abou it. So let me see, Wlad crushes Floyd p4p cause hed be an 6'6 welter? YPL is 6'4 so p4p > Floyd. Huck also. This is what youre saying, pal. Rigo is a p4p weakling cause hed be a 5'4 welter with puny reach.
Theres a difference. perfectly healthy to be a 6'0 147 pounder, not the same as being 6'6. Thats why this was simple. If the question is, 6'0 147 Andre Ward vs 5'6 147 Pac, Ward wins. This situation isnt using P4P creitra which takes weight AND height into consideration . He simply said weight. Its reading comprehension, guys.
Dude for someone that so badly misunderstands the meaning of p4p you're awful loud abou it. So let me see, Wlad crushes Floyd p4p cause hed be an 6'6 welter? YPL is 6'4 so p4p > Floyd. Huck also. This is what youre saying, pal. Rigo is a p4p weakling cause hed be a 5'4 welter with puny reach.[/QU