Alvarez:I want to fight Pacquiao

http://thaboxingvoice.com/alvarez-i-want-to-fight-pacquiao/32082 After Canelo Alvarez signed his new deal with HBO he stated, “I am ready to make history. When we made the move to HBO we thought of all the possibilities that can happen and we believe we are going to do great things with this network.” It’s hard not to agree with Alvarez given the new window of opportunities that have just surfaced. There is a long list of HBO fighters waiting to fight the young Mexican phenom. Manny Pacquiao is one of the possible fights for Alvarez despite the weight discrepancy. When Alvarez was asked how he would deal with Pacquiao in the ring he answered, “At this high level stage of boxing, one needs plan A, B, and C to be successful in the ring.” Freddie Roach has shown interest in putting in his Filipino fighter in the ring, but even more interest in his Puerto Rican pupil, Miguel Angel Cotto. The Cotto bout is the most probable candidate for next year given the fact both fighters are in the same division, and match-up well stylistically. Most experts predict a classic Puerto Rico vs. Mexico bout that will end in knockout. Neither fighter is an overwhelming favorite to win, which captivates the public interest. This bout has the potential to be one of the most lucrative fights in recent years. It will be a shock if this bout does not happen some time next year. Another fight in the horizon is with knockout artist Gennady Golovkin. There is a misperception Golovkin is much physically larger than Alvarez, but both fighters have similar physical statures. Golovkin and Alvarez both tend to rehydrate at around 170lbs on fight night. Canelo has sparred Golovkin in the past and said, “We did very good sparring. He is a strong fighter and not only is he a good fighter, but he’s also a good person. If we end up facing each other I wouldn’t mind. This is a sport after all.” Julio Cesar Chavez Jr. was also mentioned as a possible opponent and Alvarez stated, “Yes he is a possible opponent. There are a lot of rivals I can fight. I do not know which fights will actually happen, but I would love to fight against everyone.” These compelling fights are bound to come into fruition after Alvarez’s scheduled bout this December. Expect Alvarez to possibly become the biggest box office draw in these upcoming years, as great fights wait in the horizon. Also an interesting fact to point out is, Golden Boy plans to have Alvarez fight on PPV and non-PPV bouts each year. He will not solely become a PPV attraction such as Floyd Mayweather Jr. or Manny Pacquiao. Golden Boy has stated, “We plan to have him fight PPV along with at least one free fight a year.”

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You always tippy toe around the BS , you never look at the timeline . Shane was begging Manny for a fight when coming off the Margarito KO , he said he would except 144 which would have been crazy but he was willing , he said to Roach you gave Cotto 145 and Roach said but your not Cotto your too good Shane , Roach was shting himself because of the Margo KO , Roach was also quoted saying that Cotto was damaged goods but thats another story , back to Mosley , so then Roach says 142 and Mosley moved on , roll the clock forward a little , Floyd fights Mosley at 147 and dominates him , then Mosley fights are draw with Mora who is not in this class , then Roach says ok we will fight Mosley now and be the first to stop him and the 147 weight dont matter now . This is cherry picking at its finest and you want to whitewash it . Glad someone is willing to point this out.

11y ago

Reloaded

Well Mosley was still legit top 5, after Pac had mowed down the rest of the top welters willing to fight him, in short order. The Mora fight was at MW, and iirc most had Mosley winning vs bigger guy hard to look good against. Remember he fought Canelo at 154 later, a weight Mosley never liked. Much later he outperformed titlist Paulie vs Cano. Agree on Freddie You always tippy toe around the BS , you never look at the timeline . Shane was begging Manny for a fight when coming off the Margarito KO , he said he would except 144 which would have been crazy but he was willing , he said to Roach you gave Cotto 145 and Roach said but your not Cotto your too good Shane , Roach was shting himself because of the Margo KO , Roach was also quoted saying that Cotto was damaged goods but thats another story , back to Mosley , so then Roach says 142 and Mosley moved on , roll the clock forward a little , Floyd fights Mosley at 147 and dominates him , then Mosley fights are draw with Mora who is not in this class , then Roach says ok we will fight Mosley now and be the first to stop him and the 147 weight dont matter now . This is cherry picking at its finest and you want to whitewash it .

11y ago

HeroBando

It's not just that Freddie flat out ducked it, it's that he then had the nerve to later make the fight and try to promote it when Shane was totally washed up. Again, I dont have any issues with Pac or Miguel, I just can't stand how Freddie goes about advantage seeking, all the time. Well Mosley was still legit top 5, after Pac had mowed down the rest of the top welters willing to fight him, in short order. The Mora fight was at MW, and iirc most had Mosley winning vs bigger guy hard to look good against. Remember he fought Canelo at 154 later, a weight Mosley never liked. Much later he outperformed titlist Paulie vs Cano. Agree on Freddie

11y ago

HeroBando

But the point is, Cotto WASN'T the toughest fight. He was a fighter that looked less than his former self as Roach commented on many times. Shane was perceived as the tougher fight. Whether u believe it or not, Mismatch is EXACTLY what I thought when they announced it. I wanted to see Pac/Mosley and the way he lobbied for it, that is the fight that should've been made. Roach claimed it was about because of Cotto being a bigger draw but somehow Pac/Mosley did more sales than Pac/Cotto even after Shane was shot. I believe what Cotto said about the issue. He said that after he fought Margarito he lost confidence. Confidence he didn't fully get back until he fought and beat Margarito in the second fight. His fights between I and II attest to what he claims. He looked like crap after Margarito and then looked much more like the Cotto of old in the Mayweather fight and Martinez fight(not so much in the Trout fight though). I see, so this is how to make Cotto unshot after Marg: Have him get destroyed again, by Pac Impose a cw title defense vs one eyed noncontender, recently destroyed by Pac. Potshot all night, to a tech stoppage due to eye injury Cotto unshot! Bud you missed the point. Pac didnt take on number 1 guy in for his 7th divisional belt. He took on top 2 Cotto. I bet your favorite fighter hasnt fought anyone of that caliber in his 7th or 6th

11y ago

Reloaded

You didnt follow the convo dumba$$. We were talking Pac Cotto I posted on what you stated , dont matter what your ongoing convo was about , you made a statement which was your fanboy modus operandi which gives Manny a pass for everything bull-sht . Pac Cotto is what , one guy REFUSING to fight the other without a CW , thats the bottom line , be like Floyd calling out Canelo now and Canelo says ok Floyd no problems with a rematch but NO CW , and then Floyd says no deal without a CW , that was Manny Cotto and there is no excuse for it , its a flat out DUCK .

11y ago

megadeth

Do you know another fighter that took the toughest fight moving up to his 7th division, without a CW? Didnt think so. You shoulda put money on it then. Mismatch lol, Floyd Jr and Sr didnt think so, couldnt believe the result, got them terrified. One year earlier and Pac is a massive underdog to Cotto So do you think Cotto went unshot after taking another destructive beating at the hands of Pac, to give Floyd a tough fight? But the point is, Cotto WASN'T the toughest fight. He was a fighter that looked less than his former self as Roach commented on many times. Shane was perceived as the tougher fight. Whether u believe it or not, Mismatch is EXACTLY what I thought when they announced it. I wanted to see Pac/Mosley and the way he lobbied for it, that is the fight that should've been made. Roach claimed it was about because of Cotto being a bigger draw but somehow Pac/Mosley did more sales than Pac/Cotto even after Shane was shot. I believe what Cotto said about the issue. He said that after he fought Margarito he lost confidence. Confidence he didn't fully get back until he fought and beat Margarito in the second fight. His fights between I and II attest to what he claims. He looked like crap after Margarito and then looked much more like the Cotto of old in the Mayweather fight and Martinez fight(not so much in the Trout fight though).

11y ago

gmc_rfc_06

11y ago

HeroBando

You are right, both are of the highlighted are garbage. I have no problem saying when Floyd is full of sh*t. BUT, that doesn't change the fact that Pac took the easier fight, ducked what was perceived as the more difficult fight and added in a catchweight for good measure, for a fighter who looked past his best. You know if that was Floyd he would be crucified for it. Why give Pac a pass? He has already moved up, had been in the ring as a ww for years and clearly could handle fighting at ww. Honestly, the very first time that I heard they were taking on Cotto rather than Shane I was mad beause the first thing i thought was "complete mismatch" and it wasn't in Cotto's favor either. Do you know another fighter that took the toughest fight moving up to his 7th division, without a CW? Didnt think so. You shoulda put money on it then. Mismatch lol, Floyd Jr and Sr didnt think so, couldnt believe the result, got them terrified. One year earlier and Pac is a massive underdog to Cotto So do you think Cotto went unshot after taking another destructive beating at the hands of Pac, to give Floyd a tough fight?

11y ago

megadeth

He got an offer he couldnt refuse from a guy unranked at welter, after just having moved up to 135. No intention of going to welter otherwise, nor did he get any welter cred for demolishing favored DLH. Its not like Floyd being 2x champ at 154, then unifying at 152 and defending at 147 lol You are right, both are of the highlighted are garbage. I have no problem saying when Floyd is full of sh*t. BUT, that doesn't change the fact that Pac took the easier fight, ducked what was perceived as the more difficult fight and added in a catchweight for good measure, for a fighter who looked past his best. You know if that was Floyd he would be crucified for it. Why give Pac a pass? He has already moved up, had been in the ring as a ww for years and clearly could handle fighting at ww. Honestly, the very first time that I heard they were taking on Cotto rather than Shane I was mad beause the first thing i thought was "complete mismatch" and it wasn't in Cotto's favor either.

11y ago

HeroBando

Pac had already fought at 147 and had been coming into the ring for years as a ww. Another elite opponent who looked like a shell of his former self since fighting Margarito. Something Roach mentions time and time again before the fight was made and basically confirms that, that is the very reason that they wanted to fight him in the first place. He got an offer he couldnt refuse from a guy unranked at welter, after just having moved up to 135. No intention of going to welter otherwise, nor did he get any welter cred for demolishing favored DLH. Its not like Floyd being 2x champ at 154, then unifying at 152 and defending at 147 lol

11y ago

HeroBando

If Cotto held a 175 belt its a duck , Manny beat the great Margarito for a JMW title didnt he , Manny is super Manny isnt he , once again Manny gets a pass like he is listed by National Geographic as an endangered species You boys are just unreal in the flip flopping excuses you make for Manny , Canelo would blast Manny into outer space , Cotto at 154 will do the same , Thurman would stop him even Porter would give him hell , Khan would box his ears off and Brook would stop him , no wonder he fights JWWs like Rios and Algieri . Manny is like competing in go karts and talking Formula one , he want s no risk fights while trying to get a cash out with Floyd . You didnt follow the convo dumba$$. We were talking Pac Cotto

11y ago

Reloaded

And im saying when youre moving up in weight, esp to unprecedented 7th, its ok to acknowledge some guys are too much. Say Cotto goes up to 168 to fight Froch, admitting Ward is too much. Is that a duck? I didnt think Jmm 3 was a robbery. I had it a draw. I think Rick Reeno did as well, while Cliff and Jake scored it for Pac If Cotto held a 175 belt its a duck , Manny beat the great Margarito for a JMW title didnt he , Manny is super Manny isnt he , once again Manny gets a pass like he is listed by National Geographic as an endangered species You boys are just unreal in the flip flopping excuses you make for Manny , Canelo would blast Manny into outer space , Cotto at 154 will do the same , Thurman would stop him even Porter would give him hell , Khan would box his ears off and Brook would stop him , no wonder he fights JWWs like Rios and Algieri . Manny is like competing in go karts and talking Formula one , he want s no risk fights while trying to get a cash out with Floyd .

11y ago

megadeth

Pac was coming up to his 7th division when he "ducked" Mosley. Instead took on another elite opponent , with a win over Mosley. Ggg wants to fight Floyd at 154, where Floyd has 10x the credentials Pac had at welter. Clear duck? Same with Martinez who'd repeatedly called out lineal paper champ at 154 Pac had already fought at 147 and had been coming into the ring for years as a ww. Another elite opponent who looked like a shell of his former self since fighting Margarito. Something Roach mentions time and time again before the fight was made and basically confirms that, that is the very reason that they wanted to fight him in the first place.

11y ago

HeroBando

Do you think I'm a Mayweather fan? He is also a cherry picker....and a moron. I never accused Manny of ducking, Freddie clearly did though. It's on video, he literally tells Shane to his face that he's not getting the fight because at that stage he's too good. Regarding Pac-JMM 3: Marquez was doing the far better work. The first two were very close, the 3rd fight was a clear Marquez win...116-112. As for the 4th fight, I belive that JMM was juiced to the max. And im saying when youre moving up in weight, esp to unprecedented 7th, its ok to acknowledge some guys are too much. Say Cotto goes up to 168 to fight Froch, admitting Ward is too much. Is that a duck? I didnt think Jmm 3 was a robbery. I had it a draw. I think Rick Reeno did as well, while Cliff and Jake scored it for Pac

11y ago

gmc_rfc_06

Pac was coming up to his 7th division when he "ducked" Mosley. Instead took on another elite opponent, with a win over Mosley. Ggg wants to fight Floyd at 154, where Floyd has 10x the credentials Pac had at welter. Clear duck? Same with Martinez who'd repeatedly called out lineal paper champ at 154 Do you think I'm a Mayweather fan? He is also a cherry picker....and a moron. I never accused Manny of ducking, Freddie clearly did though. It's on video, he literally tells Shane to his face that he's not getting the fight because at that stage he's too good. Regarding Pac-JMM 3: Marquez was doing the far better work. The first two were very close, the 3rd fight was a clear Marquez win...116-112. As for the 4th fight, I belive that JMM was juiced to the max.

11y ago

GODFR33

Smh.......... And he was throwing lots and lots of punches in bunches like never before. I was like WTF? He looked 20yrs old against MA. I was like I HOPE Manny doesn't fight this Cyborg again!!!!! LoL.

11y ago

HeroBando

I didn't have a problem with fighting Cotto instead. I had a problem with Freddie saying to Shane on camera that he wouldn't let Pac fight him at 147 because he was too good....then making the fight when Shane was washed up. It was classic Freddie. Marquez hired Memo prior to the 4th fight, not the 3rd fight. JMM came up in weight, didn't look all that great at the weight and still won the fight IMO...it was Freddie trying to give his fighter the advantage as he always tries to and it backfired. Martinez's knee hasn't healed since the Chavez fight, it's totally gone. It was on full display in the Murray fight and again against Miguel. His movement is gone, he can't generate power because of it, he falls over just trying to duck under punches....when you aren't able to spar because you're knee isn't up to it, how are you capable of fighting a world title fight? Sergio is classy enough to give credit to Miguel, he's not going to be the discrediting type. Pac was coming up to his 7th division when he "ducked" Mosley. Instead took on another elite opponent, with a win over Mosley. Ggg wants to fight Floyd at 154, where Floyd has 10x the credentials Pac had at welter. Clear duck? Same with Martinez who'd repeatedly called out lineal paper champ at 154

11y ago

lightsout15

You sir are in denial. You sound like a fan of Martinez to me. If so, fine BUT don't make excuses for him. Nobody made him sign to fight Cotto. Cotto said he didn't care what version of Sergio showed up and he meant it. Did you forget how arrogant and disrespectful Sergio was to Cotto prefight? How much trash he talked to Cotto and how much he was going to "give him a beating"? Furthermore, about Manny/Roidquez: Manny won the 3rd encounter because he outthrows and outlands Marquez, 2-3 to 1 every time. The third fight was a sparring match and Manny's objective was to outpoint him. He wasn't trying to KO him in that fight. Roidquez also blew any chances of winning by running the entire 12th round!!!!!! What veteran does that? WTF was he thinking? And we all know he was/is on roids right now. In the 4th fight, it was on FULL display. He was HUGE. He took KO punches from Manny and was still around. For the first time in 4 fights, he was the stronger guy in the ring. How do you explain that? People always referring to the perfectly timed counter, but what about the first knock down where Manny had his hands up and still went down? It was the unusual power behind his shots that night. He physically moved Manny with every shot. People that can't admit things are liars. How about the Alvarado fight? He knocked him all the way across the ring and almost out of it. MA is much bigger and supposedly stronger than Roidquez. All of a sudden this man can KO a middleweight and is 41 years old??? Okay. Yea ,JMM is highly suspect. Guy shows up with chest acne and almost knocks alvarado out of the ring with sheer force and strength in one shot. The look on Alvarado's face was priceless, in his head he was probably like "damn it!! I should asked for VADA".

11y ago

GODFR33

You're in denial............. You sir are in denial. You sound like a fan of Martinez to me. If so, fine BUT don't make excuses for him. Nobody made him sign to fight Cotto. Cotto said he didn't care what version of Sergio showed up and he meant it. Did you forget how arrogant and disrespectful Sergio was to Cotto prefight? How much trash he talked to Cotto and how much he was going to "give him a beating"? Furthermore, about Manny/Roidquez: Manny won the 3rd encounter because he outthrows and outlands Marquez, 2-3 to 1 every time. The third fight was a sparring match and Manny's objective was to outpoint him. He wasn't trying to KO him in that fight. Roidquez also blew any chances of winning by running the entire 12th round!!!!!! What veteran does that? WTF was he thinking? And we all know he was/is on roids right now. In the 4th fight, it was on FULL display. He was HUGE. He took KO punches from Manny and was still around. For the first time in 4 fights, he was the stronger guy in the ring. How do you explain that? People always referring to the perfectly timed counter, but what about the first knock down where Manny had his hands up and still went down? It was the unusual power behind his shots that night. He physically moved Manny with every shot. People that can't admit things are liars. How about the Alvarado fight? He knocked him all the way across the ring and almost out of it. MA is much bigger and supposedly stronger than Roidquez. All of a sudden this man can KO a middleweight and is 41 years old??? Okay.

11y ago

SUBZER0ED

Alvarez is a SMW/LHW masquerading as a LMW. I agree with those who say he needs to fight somebody his own size, instead of going after little guys like Pacquiao. I will make an exception in Cotto's case though, since he has a MW belt & has won 3 LMW belts. He wanted so badly to break a record by winning a MW belt, let's see how long he keeps it.

11y ago